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  • Ballmer Eats Words About iPhone


    Microsoft chief executive, Steve Ballmer, who once laughed off the iPhone has now changed his tune about Apple's smart phone and about the future of the Zune.

    Ballmer admitted to the Financial Times that the iPhone and the Blackberry have "clear market momentum."

    This is kind of funny because if you take a look back at Ballmer's comments in the past you'll remember that:

    - At the MacWorld 2007 Expo Ballmer smeared the iPhone saying that it's the "most expensive phone in the world" and that Microsoft sells "millions and millions and millions of phones a year" while "Apple sells zero."

    -Ballmer also said, "I'd prefer to have our software in 60 percent or 70 percent or 80 percent of [mobile phones], than I would to have 2 percent or 3 percent, which is what Apple might get."

    - Just this past year Ballmer even predicted that Apple's tight integration of everything would cause the iPhone to "lose out."

    Ballmer now says that consumers should not anticipate a Zune Phone.

    If there is ever a time to eat one's words, it's now for Ballmer. Jobs must be giddy.

    Source: AppleInsider | Ballmer changes tune on iPhone, says no Zune phone
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Ballmer Eats Words About iPhone started by AppleChic View original post
    Comments 37 Comments
    1. calingasan's Avatar
      calingasan -
      Apple this, Microsoft that... F**kin annoying.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      This is an Apple site - what do you expect?
    1. fletch33's Avatar
      fletch33 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ultimatexpka View Post
      This guy speaks the truth, The only reason i bought an iphone is because I wanted an ipod and an iphone and that I heard groups being created to hack the iphone like they hacked the ipod, and sticking in linux... Im glad i got this jailbroken, otherwise I would of been stuck with the blackberry storm.

      I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked)

      so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect.
      this is a PERFECT example of what the iPhone has done. it has brought more people out of the phone market and into the smart/pda phone market and somehow led them to believe that the iPhone is revolutionary and that nothing like this has ever been done before.

      no offense to you ultimaexpka but it is statements like " I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked) so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect." that defines all the people on here that do no research and have no knowledge of where pda/smart phones were before the glorious iPhone came along.

      for more than 5 years or more preceding the iPhone all my phones (WM) had NES, Homebrew, SNES, web browser, google shortcut icon, seriously hundreds of apps and WM still does.

      they also had a few more things that i had almost a decade ago and that we have yet to see on the iPhone like copy and paste, and things that came only a few years ago like slingplayer.

      the iPhone is a great phone but it has brought so many new people into this market and easily led them to believe that all these features are new and this thing is like nothing the world has ever seen.

      i really like my iPhone and they did make some things better like the touchscreen and making it easy to add apps so the average user could make the switch, and its an iPod, and a few more things but they didnt re-invent the wheel.

      people should try and educate themselves just a little bit before just throwing out random unsupported claims.


      sorry about that but as much as i like my Iphone this "nothing has ever been like this" remarks make me do the above
    1. calingasan's Avatar
      calingasan -
      Quote Originally Posted by fletch33 View Post
      this is a PERFECT example of what the iPhone has done. it has brought more people out of the phone market and into the smart/pda phone market and somehow led them to believe that the iPhone is revolutionary and that nothing like this has ever been done before.

      no offense to you ultimaexpka but it is statements like " I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked) so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect." that defines all the people on here that do no research and have no knowledge of where pda/smart phones were before the glorious iPhone came along.

      for more than 5 years or more preceding the iPhone all my phones (WM) had NES, Homebrew, SNES, web browser, google shortcut icon, seriously hundreds of apps and WM still does.

      they also had a few more things that i had almost a decade ago and that we have yet to see on the iPhone like copy and paste, and things that came only a few years ago like slingplayer.

      the iPhone is a great phone but it has brought so many new people into this market and easily led them to believe that all these features are new and this thing is like nothing the world has ever seen.

      i really like my iPhone and they did make some things better like the touchscreen and making it easy to add apps so the average user could make the switch, and its an iPod, and a few more things but they didnt re-invent the wheel.

      people should try and educate themselves just a little bit before just throwing out random unsupported claims.


      sorry about that but as much as i like my Iphone this "nothing has ever been like this" remarks make me do the above
      Lol, brings back old symbian memories from my good old Motorola A1000. I was the only one who had one on my class.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by calingasan View Post
      Lol, brings back old symbian memories from my good old Motorola A1000. I was the only one who had one on my class.
      I had the A825, the A925 and the A1000 - God they were awful!

      Windows Mobile has been my choice for the past few years (apart from the odd foray into the World of Symbian)

      The iPhone is less flexible than WM but the ease of use makes it my phone of choice - but to say it is the first phone that can be hacked is stretching the truth somewhat...


    1. BenzoHartt's Avatar
      BenzoHartt -
      so this is where the awkward moment of silence come in...

      (phone rings)
      Ballmer: I have to take this... (and brings out an iphone)
      Steve: cough's and smiles
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Lol!
    1. smirkis's Avatar
      smirkis -
      did u really say microsoft doesnt know how to make hardware? how the heck did they make a pc, that runs widows, in the first place.

      i don't see apple with a gaming device, so how can u compare apple with a xbox... i can't compare my iphone to my xbox, its in a different league.

      the iphone only appealed me cuz i could unlock it, n do my own thingg thanks to the developers/iphone dev team. yah apple made the device, but i never woulda bought it if it wasn't for the other people. they did what micrsoft allows, pretty open developing. apple, does not. the idea of free open source appealed me.

      get over the windows vs apple. u guys are halarious.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Errr...

      Microsoft have never made a PC - only the software to run on it.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by crewxp View Post
      ...how the hell is this front page material?

      .. I support Apple, but I'ld never stoop down to a low level and boast that Apple is better than Microsoft, or flame a Microsoft rep (who's in charge of promoting their products... its his job).

      C'mon guys you're better than that.

      It is what it is, it's never cool to flame... especially when its a person with a family, who's just doing his job. Some people like us like Apple, and other like Microsoft. It's their own choice.
      I largely agree with you. Look at the OP's name... pure fanboy material, and most, if not all, posts by this person are skewed in this same direction...
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      People get very protective of what they have . There are as many people on Microsoft sites slanging off Apple and I don't think a bit of light hearted ribbing does any harm.


      Just so long as you don't take it to seriously
    1. VBLUE42's Avatar
      VBLUE42 -
      Quote Originally Posted by smirkis View Post
      did u really say microsoft doesnt know how to make hardware? how the heck did they make a pc, that runs widows, in the first place.

      i don't see apple with a gaming device, so how can u compare apple with a xbox... i can't compare my iphone to my xbox, its in a different league.

      the iphone only appealed me cuz i could unlock it, n do my own thingg thanks to the developers/iphone dev team. yah apple made the device, but i never woulda bought it if it wasn't for the other people. they did what micrsoft allows, pretty open developing. apple, does not. the idea of free open source appealed me.

      get over the windows vs apple. u guys are halarious.
      Microsoft never made a PC. Everyone else made the PC's and Microsoft just supplied the software. And as far as the Xbox360, I am on my forth unit in as many years (Thank god for that three year factory warranty they had to extend to everyone). If Apple did do a game machine I doubt I would have to go through four of the damned things before I got a good one.
    1. alias_neo's Avatar
      alias_neo -
      Quote Originally Posted by smirkis View Post
      did u really say microsoft doesnt know how to make hardware? how the heck did they make a pc, that runs widows, in the first place.

      i don't see apple with a gaming device, so how can u compare apple with a xbox... i can't compare my iphone to my xbox, its in a different league.

      the iphone only appealed me cuz i could unlock it, n do my own thingg thanks to the developers/iphone dev team. yah apple made the device, but i never woulda bought it if it wasn't for the other people. they did what micrsoft allows, pretty open developing. apple, does not. the idea of free open source appealed me.

      get over the windows vs apple. u guys are halarious.
      Yes, I personally did say Microsoft doesn't know how to make hardware, and as the poster above said, they don't make their own hardware. I challenge you to bring me a current piece of hardware that runs a Microsoft operating system (and I mean PC hardware) other than the Xbox 360 and is made in house by Microsoft. None exist. Do you see any Microsoft labels on the hardware inside the device you're using to view this forum now? I think my sig shows that I'm not anti Microsoft, I have run all of their OSs and I even run OSs of theres you probably didn't know exist.

      Microsoft has proven with the XBOX that they really can't make good hardware and should stick to software which they clearly are doing something right with to be so successful.

      I'm most certainly not an Apple fan as I have said, anti apple if anything. We're not comparing the xbox to the iphone, we're comparing the overall product idea.

      Microsoft gives you the words, but you need to be able to speak. Apple, is kinda like your mum and dad, they give you the "hardware" and they teach you how that hardware should speak. Assuming they got it right, if you're a white *** english kid like me, you probably speak english, and the whole picture fits.

      Pardon the analogy, but i didn't want to compare Apple to god and say he makes everything, hardware and software, we'd have a field day with that one!

      As much as I hate Apple for the way they do business, atleast you know that the hardware and software are progressing together, and they will always work how they should because theyre being made by one and the same.

      It gives them more time to focus on fixing any problems they have (like the fact that iphones fall apart) or any bugs in their software.

      Microsoft however has had software design as their main focus for the longest time. Making all the software they have to, while replacing the hundreds of thousands of faulty Xbox360s because of crappy design clearly takes a chunk of their time, money and effort.

      That being said, we know that Sony paid for the R&D for half the technology that is used in xbox360s processor, so they should have been able to get the rest of it right.

      I'm not saying Apple is better or Microsoft is better but Microsoft have always made software, their name kind of gives that away. Apple has always made software AND hardware, and for Apple they have progressed as one since the beginning (as far as i know).

      It's a difficult time to enter the race from the half way mark and being no where near up to speed.

      This is why I personally don't see any manufacturer (like Apple) now coming out with a new console this late on in the game and having any success. Look what happened to SEGA, it's really just going to be the major 3, unless someone can come out with so innovative, but can cover all the bases and by pure luck get it right first time.

      Sony Playstation make games consoles
      Nintendo makes games consoles
      Nokia makes mobile phones
      Ford makes vehicles
      Microsoft makes software

      Apple makes....?? PCs?

      If anything Apple would be compared to the likes of Sony and Nokia than Microsoft, they each make the hardware and OS that runs that hardware.

      Microsoft has always been the "teacher" that will teach you english because your mum and dad didn't supply it with the hardware. Doesn't make the teacher any good at making babies
    1. Melech518's Avatar
      Melech518 -
      Haha
    1. supreme-livin's Avatar
      supreme-livin -
      microsoft=garbage waste of time

      i started on microsft and still have friends (well 1 friend that uses an iphone) who swear by vista!

      i got converted when the iphone came out
      so i went out bought a macbook and a iphone same day and have never looked back
      i cant even use a pc. I have to bring my mac everywhere cause i refuse to use a pc-it just drives me crazy for some reason

      when i got my mac i came home and tossed my pc out of my window into an alley from the sixth floor-it felt sooooo good!!!! and that goes with the 3 other towers i tossed in the past 3 years
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      You bought an iPhone so then bought a Mac? Strange person.
    1. supreme-livin's Avatar
      supreme-livin -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      You bought an iPhone so then bought a Mac? Strange person.
      go them the same day
      i was sick of all the probs w pc and blackberry-----both garbage!!!