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  • Palm Pre: Competition for the iPhone?


    Palm has announced the Palm Pre, what some critics and consumers think is a smart phone that will match if not out do the iPhone.

    The phone was announced at the Consumer Electronics Show and runs off an entirely new OS, Palm webOS. Jon Rubinstein explains:

    "[The operating system] needs to be more than a bundle of apps bolted on top of a phone. We all live complex lives and keep our information all over the place. The opportunity is to take all that information, put it all in one place in your hand and be able to access it quickly and let all the data interact."

    What this means is that the Palm Pre can integrate your Facebook and your work email – it has full support for Exchange.

    The key specs include:

    " 3.1in 320x 480 touchscreen, 8GB of storage, UMTS HDSPA support (in the UK version of the phone), 802.11bg WLAN, Bluetooth and GPS. It also includes a slide-out Qwerty keyboard, 3.5mm headphone jack and (the) 'fastest ever' Texas Instruments OMAP processor."

    Multi-touch is also supported and even goes beyond the screen. Matias Duarte, Palm's senior director for human interface and user experience says "this opens up a whole new world of gestures. Flick back from right to left and it goes back, like turning a page in a book."

    The Pre is missing some big stuff though – mainly video streaming and a decent music player. However, you can remove the back and replace the battery.

    The Pre is also not available yet. Palm says it will be ready "as soon as possible" in the first half of 2009.

    It looks OK, but I like the iPhone as an iPod…and I would not trade that.

    Source: PC Pro: News: Palm announces killer phone
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Palm Pre: Competition for the iPhone? started by AppleChic View original post
    Comments 115 Comments
    1. kaician's Avatar
      kaician -
      About DiskAid, while a lovely program and all, it completely defeats the purpose of using the iphone as a usb mass storage drive. For either mac or windows you have to first download, and then install the program before you can use it to access your iphone. While this is all well and good on fully accessible systems, it can't be done on systems that have either restricted access to the internet or changing the system files, which is the case with the computers at my workplace. The restricted access also keeps me from accessing air sharing as a server, meaning no file access. And no wifi there either just kills all options...

      However, my old cell phone can be used as a usb mass storage device, and since my card reader died, that's exactly what I'm using as usb memory now.

      I must say that I do find the situation quite sad indeed.....
    1. bengo's Avatar
      bengo -
      Don't know if someone posted this link already but it's a good demo of the phone at CES: Palm.com : Media Library
    1. BenzoHartt's Avatar
      BenzoHartt -
      i don't think this will compete at all. As for all the iphone killers... refer to my sig
    1. calingasan's Avatar
      calingasan -
      Quote Originally Posted by BenzoHartt View Post
      ...deep down inside it really wants to be an iphone
    1. T-Will's Avatar
      T-Will -
      Quote Originally Posted by calingasan View Post
      :d
      lol!
    1. gQstatus05's Avatar
      gQstatus05 -
      Just another Palm. I troubleshoot Palms on a daily basis as well. Same ol' problem. My phone won't stop hotsyncing, it keeps rebooting, when i look up a contact it'll just dial by itself.

      Listen I can go on and on. I troubleshoot high end devices all day every day. It's my job. I know phones inside out. I can walk you through any blackberry, palm, windows mobile device off the top of my head like I have it right in front of me. I don't just talk to just talk.

      Many developers for windows mobile have migrated over to apple iPhone b/c of the endless potentials of the phone. Like I said I've owned iPaq beetles, pdas, 8125, tytnI, tytnII, pantech duo (for a week), crapjack II (worst phone ever). Good luck calling Palm too. They have no idea what's going on and by the time you get someone in AMERICA it's been like 2 hours from what I'm told from users of Palms.
    1. T-Will's Avatar
      T-Will -
      Quote Originally Posted by gQstatus05 View Post
      Just another Palm. I troubleshoot Palms on a daily basis as well. Same ol' problem. My phone won't stop hotsyncing, it keeps rebooting, when i look up a contact it'll just dial by itself.

      Listen I can go on and on. I troubleshoot high end devices all day every day. It's my job. I know phones inside out. I can walk you through any blackberry, palm, windows mobile device off the top of my head like I have it right in front of me. I don't just talk to just talk.

      Many developers for windows mobile have migrated over to apple iPhone b/c of the endless potentials of the phone. Like I said I've owned iPaq beetles, pdas, 8125, tytnI, tytnII, pantech duo (for a week), crapjack II (worst phone ever). Good luck calling Palm too. They have no idea what's going on and by the time you get someone in AMERICA it's been like 2 hours from what I'm told from users of Palms.
      u mad?

      I hate the outsourcing too, but I'm giving Palm a chance by not calling the Pre a failure BEFORE it's even released.
    1. thaforgottenone's Avatar
      thaforgottenone -
      to me the os name is effy "webos"... when i hear that, i think of a os that talks back and forth to a severr or the web, watching every thing u do on the phone... hahaha just what i think.
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by thaforgottenone View Post
      to me the os name is effy "webos"... when i hear that, i think of a os that talks back and forth to a severr or the web, watching every thing u do on the phone... hahaha just what i think.
      While it doesn't actually work like that, that's the idea behind it, to keep you connected with everything at all times.
    1. gQstatus05's Avatar
      gQstatus05 -
      Yeah I've had to call Palm a couple of times and it's a shame that they can't even pronounce the names of their phones let alone know what they are doing. I get so happy when I hear an American voice when I call dell, etc. A product is only as good as it's support. That's what I think. I guess we'll see if MMi regulars decide to abandon ship.
    1. calingasan's Avatar
      calingasan -
      Quote Originally Posted by gQstatus05 View Post
      Yeah I've had to call Palm a couple of times and it's a shame that they can't even pronounce the names of their phones let alone know what they are doing. I get so happy when I hear an American voice when I call dell, etc. A product is only as good as it's support. That's what I think. I guess we'll see if MMi regulars decide to abandon ship.
      Was just thinking, since every time i have a problem with my iphone, i go straight to modmyi. Does this mean that there will be a modmypre soon to come?
    1. Miniver Cheevy's Avatar
      Miniver Cheevy -
      The Pre fails to impress me because of its OS. HTML/JavaScript apps? You have got to be kidding me.

      However, it does have a market of its own, just not appealing to the power users that make up the majority of the iPhone base. It could succeed, but it's no iPhone killer.
    1. calingasan's Avatar
      calingasan -
      Why do people always want to kill the iphone?
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by calingasan View Post
      Why do people always want to kill the iphone?
      Gotta get rid of the first if you want to be the first yourself.

      I for one really want the iPhone to have a run for its money. Maybe then Apple will get off their pedestal and starts giving us the features we should have had since day 1.
    1. bengo's Avatar
      bengo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Miniver Cheevy View Post
      The Pre fails to impress me because of its OS. HTML/JavaScript apps? You have got to be kidding me.

      However, it does have a market of its own, just not appealing to the power users that make up the majority of the iPhone base . It could succeed, but it's no iPhone killer.
      LOL power users are the majority ? You must be confused.

      Every teeny bopper who has owned an iPod probably owns an iPhone now.

      Most iPhone users don't unlock and jailbreak their own phones.

      Most iPhone users have no clue what Mobile Terminal or Linux is, or what to do with it, etc.
    1. helitx's Avatar
      helitx -
      one area in which Palm has done EXTREMELY well in the past is the number of applications developers have created for Palm products. No walled garden (i.e. Apple) means much more innovation. Not saying I like it better, just a point... for an example check out the apps avaialable at PalmGear.com: Download Palm Software for your Treo, Centro, Tungsten, LifeDrive or other Palm OS Device

      may or may not work on the Pre but gives you and idea of the dev community for Palm
    1. dontmakemehurtu's Avatar
      dontmakemehurtu -
    1. tdub's Avatar
      tdub -
      First of all Iphone killer is a apple fan boy slang for "nothing better than my iphone" if apple would invest as much energy in iphone as they did prior to the first one being released to the market..we have something to talk about. I loved the new concepts of palm pre ie card ..keep apps running in background , merging contacts from around the web! The sms,mms,email and IM all in one line of conversation.NICE! 2 i am just suprised apple is a computer company..why in the hell is palm coming out with cards ie apps running in background and alot of the other things i saw from CES ,cant apple do that with their OS.3 ..I want a phone thats not reliant on itunes ! itunes sucks *** on a pc. If the iphone could draw and sync contacts on its own with the web..that would be KILLER.
    1. T-Will's Avatar
      T-Will -
      Quote Originally Posted by tdub View Post
      First of all Iphone killer is a apple fan boy slang for "nothing better than my iphone" if apple would invest as much energy in iphone as they did prior to the first one being released to the market..we have something to talk about. I loved the new concepts of palm pre ie card ..keep apps running in background , merging contacts from around the web! The sms,mms,email and IM all in one line of conversation.NICE! 2 i am just suprised apple is a computer company..why in the hell is palm coming out with cards ie apps running in background and alot of the other things i saw from CES ,cant apple do that with their OS.3 ..I want a phone thats not reliant on itunes ! itunes sucks *** on a pc. If the iphone could draw and sync contacts on its own with the web..that would be KILLER.
      +1 !!!
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      You can sync your contacts with google contacts over the air using nuevasync or any other free exchange service!