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    Currently in the U.S. and across the world the iPhone is a GSM network only device. That means that even unlocked you can not run the iPhone on the Verizon network which is CDMA. This may change soon -- as early as Macworld 2009. Where does this come from? A Verizon tipster told 9to5mac that "Apple will be announcing iPhones for Verizon Wireless in 2009, perhaps as early Macworld 2009."

    While there are many reasons that this rumor could be true we think these are the big ones:
    • Apple has been looking for EVDO and CDMA engineers with their job listings. You can check out these job listings here, here, here and here.
    • Apple has been working very hard lately to expand their market share to other countries. Last count the iPhone is available for purchase in over 79 countries. It only makes sense that Apple would want to expand to also cover other network protocols to put their phone on networks currently excluded like Sprint, Verizon, and other networks in places like Canada (which currently has the iPhone on lame Rogers).
    • Verizon and Vodafone are partners. Vodafone has contracts with Apple. Partners + pre existing contracts with Apple = iPhone on Verizon. It's just simple addition folks.
    • Apple originally wanted to go with Verizon for the iPhone. Verizon refused, AT&T was the second choice and the rest is history. One of the major reasons that Apple and Verizon couldn't play nice together is Apple didn't want their jesus phone distributed at Verizon retailers like Best Buy. Since then Apple has become less paranoid about distribution channels and you can pick up the iPhone at Best Buy. Maybe now Verizon and Apple could both be happy together.
    • AT&T's exclusivity contract with Apple may be ending soon. There is a lot of speculation about the ending of the deal between AT&T and Apple. Some folks say five years, some say two, others say three. We just don't know. If it is in fact 2 yrs. that would open Apple up to put the iPhone on other carriers sometime during 2009.

    Odds are looking good for Apple's expansion on to other carriers like Verizon or Sprint with the iPhone. While many are happy with AT&T service many are not. If other carriers previously unable to support the iPhone start selling it we get more options on what carrier we use. In the end more carrier options + iPhone = consumer win.

    [via 9to5mac]
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Sprint/Verizon Getting the iPhone? started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 50 Comments
    1. lillewis51's Avatar
      lillewis51 -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      That's true but how often are you popping a sim from a phone that came from another network to your network. It just doesn;t happen much. I am sure VZW will subsidize the hell out of the phone (maybe more than ATT has done) By the time the ontract is up on the one phone you will probably not want to use the thing because there will be something better anyway.
      this is a very good point. by the time the 2 yr contract is up there will prob be the iphone hologram where all you do is carry around a little button and when you press it boom a hologram iphone right there!

      (in school and really bored)
    1. idolpunk's Avatar
      idolpunk -
      if they could get it on Verizon's stronger network without verizon branding and crippling it like they do with all their phones this would be great
    1. x2thaz64's Avatar
      x2thaz64 -
      i left verizon to get the iphone. The iphone will truly suck on verizons network. They charge an arm and a leg for any good features. Verizon always blocks good features
    1. Bernie-Mac's Avatar
      Bernie-Mac -
      Im just afraid with this the iPhone will go the way of the Razr
    1. oliverhart77's Avatar
      oliverhart77 -
      can you imagine, an iPhone without a sim tray slot on the top? Yuck. That's like a human without a belly button man. I just can't dig it.
    1. ThinkTank's Avatar
      ThinkTank -
      Verizon might have the best coverage bu their hand sets and service is expensive...
      I like Tmobile...poor coverage, very good customer service and good phone...

      But the new android looks very ugly....very ugly.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      Quote Originally Posted by evolutionarymc View Post
      I tell you what....I HATE SPRINT! The only problem is that I had the best coverage all over the US, better than any other service I've had. The customer service licks b**** ! ATT is the worst coverage I have had. I would love to have an iPhone on sprint just because the coverage is massive and when the technology finally merges with nextel it will be even better. Don't tease me now:0
      Sprint, of all carriers, has had more time to roll a their network as they were one of the first in the onslaught of cellphones. Yet their network is one of the worst nationwide. The only thing they have done recently that made any sense was acquiring Nextel's push to talk customers as most of them are businesses. Nextel's network is terrible too. If you do not get a Nextel signal you cannot make a call.

      The only thing Sprint could lure me in with is there $99 for everything plan, but like I said before...their network is not good considering I travel a lot.
    1. mawells787's Avatar
      mawells787 -
      Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
      Sprint, of all carriers, has had more time to roll a their network as they were one of the first in the onslaught of cellphones. Yet their network is one of the worst nationwide. The only thing they have done recently that made any sense was acquiring Nextel's push to talk customers as most of them are businesses. Nextel's network is terrible too. If you do not get a Nextel signal you cannot make a call.

      The only thing Sprint could lure me in with is there $99 for everything plan, but like I said before...their network is not good considering I travel a lot.
      even with the $99 everything plan i wouldn't go to sprint because god forbid you have a question or concern and have to call their customer service, there the worst a bunch of unprofessional pieces of crap.
    1. shadowhacker27's Avatar
      shadowhacker27 -
      When that day comes, i will no longer want iphone...i hate verizon "sir sub-charges" they steal as much as ATT..so I better get used to modmygphone hehe...
    1. WillyDavidK's Avatar
      WillyDavidK -
      Quote Originally Posted by mfleigle View Post
      Wouldnt any contract AT&T and apple had together been renewed when they changed the rules with the 3G? Anyway this is probably false since AT&T has an exclusive contract until at least 2010 (as reported in the New York Times, and pretty much everywhere else)
      Well that's an easy fix. Apple will have to change the hardware to an extent anyways because of the different signal type. All they have to do is change the case and call the phone something slightly different. Voila! It's a new piece of hardware and therefore doesn't fall under the 'exclusive' iPhone contract. That is, unless the contract somehow states any device capable of making phone calls, that is manufactured by Apple - which sounds like something ATT would do
    1. elr0y7's Avatar
      elr0y7 -
      VCast on the iPhone? I'm an At&t guy but this I might like!
    1. HarlemState's Avatar
      HarlemState -
      thing is wit att you can acually catch a signal in the middle of the desert, not wit verizon sprint or tmoble... they mite be ok carriers but they dont have a wider signal span then att..... and plus the 3g on att is faster then any other 3g carrier.....if you have a verizon iphone and load a web site using 3g or whetevr verizon uses for a 3g signal, it wouldnt be faster then an att iphone on 3g :-D i bet you
    1. dillonsmith9147's Avatar
      dillonsmith9147 -
      Quote Originally Posted by HarlemState View Post
      thing is wit att you can acually catch a signal in the middle of the desert, not wit verizon sprint or tmoble... they mite be ok carriers but they dont have a wider signal span then att..... and plus the 3g on att is faster then any other 3g carrier.....if you have a verizon iphone and load a web site using 3g or whetevr verizon uses for a 3g signal, it wouldnt be faster then an att iphone on 3g :-D i bet you
      last time i checked vzw had the fastest speeds but i could be wrong but this sucks Ive had ATT for 4-5 years, they still have not fixed the service within 7 miles of my house. however vzw i can get signal easy here. so in my situation this sucks cuz its lose lose, stay with att dont make, any calls at the house, go with vzw, pay for voiding my contract plus have to pay for a new phone and have to pay the bill, ugh stupid contracts im getting a sattelite phone
    1. mawells787's Avatar
      mawells787 -
      Quote Originally Posted by dillonsmith9147 View Post
      last time i checked vzw had the fastest speeds but i could be wrong but this sucks Ive had ATT for 4-5 years, they still have not fixed the service within 7 miles of my house. however vzw i can get signal easy here. so in my situation this sucks cuz its lose lose, stay with att dont make, any calls at the house, go with vzw, pay for voiding my contract plus have to pay for a new phone and have to pay the bill, ugh stupid contracts im getting a sattelite phone
      at&t actually does have the fastest network see link
      CW: AT&T's 3G Network Leaves Verizon, Sprint in the Dust || The iPod Observer - Now Playing

      also aside from being faster at&t has the only 3G network that allows you to use the internet and be on a phone call at the same time. which comes in handy a lot when im talking to someone and watching live updates of a baseball game. if at&t doesn't have coverage where you are i think you can technically terminate your contract without an ETF. call them an complain and tell them you contacted the BBB or something.
    1. Muggz5's Avatar
      Muggz5 -
      Thank god Verizon passed the first time. Id just now be getting a really good phone to use with TMobile. Im so happy with TMobile, they have been outstanding, and even used to bend the rules when I bought the latest and greatest blackberry every 9 months. Normally you'd have to wait at least 11-13 months before you got a discount on newer phones within your contract time, but not them. Now I qualify for more discounts, because ive been on my iPhone for so long, I hadnt purchased a phone in a while with them. Rarely does the customer win in the Cell Phone game, but thanks to the iPhone this one has

      Uggh just unlock it already and let any carrier who adapts use it. You dont have to retail it in cell companies' stores, a simple Apple Kiosk and service center will do, where a full blown store would cost too much money per average sales in a smaller demographic. Talk about units sold.......

      by the way: I know what Im saying is a little childish and wishful thinking, but why not?

      Great article though thanks!!!
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      This can be a double edged sword however, since bad hardware will send bad connotation to the android software.
      Reminds me of one of Apple's many arguments against PCs/for Macs: Macs just work because the same people that design the software design the hardware, unlike PCs; Microsoft makes the software, Dell/Gateway/eMachines/Compaq/whatever make the hardware, so what can loosely be called "compatibility" is faulty at best.

      I'm seeing the ads right now...

      ...
      "Hi, I'm an iPhone."
      "And I'm an Android."
    1. Salamis's Avatar
      Salamis -
      I still doubt Verizon will get iPhones. When I got my LG Voyager, the guy at Verizon said that Apple is too controlling to work with. Notice how you have to go to the Apple store to get the iPhone? And how you have to bring you iPhone to Apple for technical support? Verizon was offered to carry the iPhone, but Apple was too controlling, so they turned it down.
    1. mastuul's Avatar
      mastuul -
      Does anyone know if the 3G iphone is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G network? I've read elsewhere that it isn't, but I haven't tested it personally.
    1. theevilone's Avatar
      theevilone -
      that's what happens when apple does not get kick backs from att.
    1. z3r01's Avatar
      z3r01 -
      mastuul, many are saying that it's not possible and others are saying it is, some say that you can use tmobile 3g for downlink and edge for uplink but I think these are just theories

      Thanx button in advanced