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  • Honey I Shrunk The iPod Audio Jack



    In the tech world, bigger is never better - especially when it comes to our mobile gadgets. Consequently, it should come as no surprise that there is evidence to suggest that Apple continues to toil with ways of making the iPod and its components even smaller - right down to their audio jacks.

    As it turns out, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office received a patent application from Apple titled "Audio Jack with Pogo Pins for Conductive Contacts." In a nutshell, what we have here is a comprehensive description of an "audio headphone jack that depends on deflectable Pogo pins to conserve space." According to Apple Insider (who discovered the patent application in question), the audio jacks would pack "several conductive pads in order to create contact with a standard 1/8-inch audio cable when plugged in." Based on details provided in the application, audio, power and data can be transferred through these particular cables.

    Although we are only learning of the parent application this week, the application was actually first filed for on June 10, 2009. Since then, Apple has revealed its smallest and sleekest line of iPods yet, all of which take the boundaries of pint-sized technology to the limit. But as Apple continues to make their products smaller, faster, and more durable, one can only imagine how many other patent applications are either forthcoming from Apple or are already in the works without our present knowledge.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Honey I Shrunk The iPod Audio Jack started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 44 Comments
    1. qwen3579's Avatar
      qwen3579 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jahooba View Post
      If they move away from the 3.5mm jack I'm going to be very unhappy. Well, give the Nano something smaller, 'cause I'll never buy one, but just leave the Touch's 3.5mm jack alone.
      You do realize that the 3.5 mm jack and the 1/8 in jack are the same thing, right? they're not trying to make it smaller, they are trying to add more capabilities to the current size.
    1. JaredXD's Avatar
      JaredXD -
      News flash. They already use this jack in the new iPods. If you look inside the headphone port you will notice the pogo pins. Compare it to an older ipod to see the diference. They are currently using this "new" port in the iPad, iPhone 4, the new shuffle, nano and touch. This isn't news really.
    1. timbrook's Avatar
      timbrook -
      Quote Originally Posted by Laughingman-ca View Post
      Hah Exactly... mini USB perhaps, like everyone else in the world is using. Heck I have headphones that plug into mini usb, you could actually remove the headphone jack and make them all one....
      Why not remove cables all together, bluetooth syncing should have been built into iTunes a long time ago.
    1. Ivel's Avatar
      Ivel -
      Quote Originally Posted by Laughingman-ca View Post
      Hah Exactly... mini USB perhaps, like everyone else in the world is using. Heck I have headphones that plug into mini usb, you could actually remove the headphone jack and make them all one....
      Totally disagree. I, for one, use my iPhone in my car to play music and I connect the charger to the bottom and the aux cable to the top.
    1. reppin4you's Avatar
      reppin4you -
      Apple will sell tons more product with this revolutionary design.
    1. brbortscheller's Avatar
      brbortscheller -
      As soon as the headphone jack is smaller, of course they'll charge a butt load of money for the only headphones compatible with it. Shame shame. :-/
    1. holygamer22's Avatar
      holygamer22 -
      lol maybe
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dizi View Post
      The audio jack is small enough. They need to work on that giant friggen sync connector.
      Did you not notice that one of the pins could be used for "data transfer"?
    1. timbrook's Avatar
      timbrook -
      Quote Originally Posted by coolguy742 View Post
      Did you not notice that one of the pins could be used for "data transfer"?
      But then you can't use the headphones while syncing or charging. It would be like the shuffle.
    1. alexevo's Avatar
      alexevo -
      So wrong Nick. This is huge news. Thanks Messany!
    1. hackint0uch's Avatar
      hackint0uch -
      Quote Originally Posted by shanejoe View Post
      False how would you charge your iPhone/iPod and listen to it at the same time, and please don't say it has speakers
      The 30-pin connector has separate pins for both power and audio which can be used at the same time, how do you think the iPod docks charge your iPhone while you play music?
    1. -_-'s Avatar
      -_- -
      bigger isnt better...explain the ipad then?
    1. BlueOrchard's Avatar
      BlueOrchard -
      the iphone 5 will be a contact that you will wear on your eye
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      @timbrook
      Good point, I didn't even think about that, and now that you mention that it would be kind of annoying.
    1. macsoldier's Avatar
      macsoldier -
      I cant even imagine how small these things are going to be 10 years from now.
    1. BenderRodriguez's Avatar
      BenderRodriguez -
      Quote Originally Posted by reppin4you View Post
      Apple will sell tons more product with this revolutionary design.
      Lol, this revolutionary design, just make something that we actually want, we never wanted that tiny nano with touch screen it in itself doesn't make any since you can barely get 2 fingers even on it
    1. BenderRodriguez's Avatar
      BenderRodriguez -
      Quote Originally Posted by hackint0uch View Post
      The 30-pin connector has separate pins for both power and audio which can be used at the same time, how do you think the iPod docks charge your iPhone while you play music?
      Yeah but odly enough regular headphones DON'T HAVE A 30 pin connector on them if you did remove the headphone jack, plus not all stereos support the play from jack but all support audio cable in
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      Quote Originally Posted by shanejoe View Post
      Yeah but odly enough regular headphones DON'T HAVE A 30 pin connector on them if you did remove the headphone jack, plus not all stereos support the play from jack but all support audio cable in
      Yes, but in theory the stereo audio pins would be in the same location so that it would be reverse compatible with most headphones. But on second thought, Apple doesn't always have the most foresight...

      *EDIT*
      And they are just adding 3 more pins to the traditional 2 pin stereo audio jack, so it would still work with normal headphones.
    1. BenderRodriguez's Avatar
      BenderRodriguez -
      Quote Originally Posted by coolguy742 View Post
      *EDIT*
      And they are just adding 3 more pins to the traditional 2 pin stereo audio jack, so it would still work with normal headphones.
      Well yes and no
      I would guess that apple has 2 separate lines running through the cable, for moving stiff to the iPhone an the other for moving stuff off, but this could also be done with a multiplex data transfer cable(like networking cables) so it would only be one cable but a little slower connection
      Also how would it transfer data to the computer if the 30pin is gone, if it works off the headphone jack then you cant plug headphones in while transferring so please explain
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      Quote Originally Posted by shanejoe View Post
      Well yes and no
      I would guess that apple has 2 separate lines running through the cable, for moving stiff to the iPhone an the other for moving stuff off, but this could also be done with a multiplex data transfer cable(like networking cables) so it would only be one cable but a little slower connection
      Also how would it transfer data to the computer if the 30pin is gone, if it works off the headphone jack then you cant plug headphones in while transferring so please explain
      You have me beat pretty good on the no plugging headphones in while syncing/charging, but i wouldn't mind it too much (you win the "debate", it it can be romanticized as one!)