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  • Palm Hacks iTunes Again with New Update

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    Let the update wars continue.

    On Saturday, Palm rolled out WebOS 1.2.1, which (you guessed it) lets Palm Pre users work around Apple's last update and once again sync their Palm Pre with iTunes 9.0.1.

    Computerworld covered the story:
    Palm today re-enabled synchronization through Apple's iTunes for owners of its Pre smartphone, ignoring warnings from a standards group last month. The release of webOS 1.2.1 Saturday was the latest in the back-and-forth between Palm, which kicked off the iTunes sync last June with the launch of the Pre, and Apple, which has blocked the practice several times with iTunes updates.
    Palm's latest "tactic" also enables photo synchronization for the Pre through iTunes, yet another move that will likely prompt a swift but yet undetermined response from Apple. Many tonight (myself included) are wondering how long Palm can get away with this. Palm's webOS 1.2.1, after all, is an intentional swipe at Apple's last update which blocked Palm's previous iTunes hack attack.

    Palm is merely illustrating once more that the company simply does not care about USB-IF approval or that Apple is opposed to the Palm Pre syncing with iTunes.

    Palm tricks iTunes into "seeing" the Pre as an Apple iPod by using device and product numbers reserved for Apple's hardware. That, however, has reportedly drawn a rebuke from the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF), a non-profit company founded by the companies which developed the USB specifications. Both Palm and Apple are members of the USB-IF.
    Two weeks ago, the USB-IF laid the smack down on Palm saying that "Under the Policy, Palm may only use the single Vendor ID issued to Palm for Palm's usage. Usage of any other company's Vendor ID is specifically precluded."

    Perhaps there was something unclear about that particular language.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Palm Hacks iTunes Again with New Update started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 55 Comments
    1. tudtran's Avatar
      tudtran -
      I don't see anything is wrong with that. Iphone is not available for Sprint user. People brought songs on Itunes they should be able to transfer it to any devices.
    1. mikerlx's Avatar
      mikerlx -
      ^yes most people run to this site for not following directions as many 3GS owners lost there unlock for updating to 3.1 so shortly ago.
    1. Blowfish64's Avatar
      Blowfish64 -
      It's sad to read some of the comments here. If it was Microsoft restricting their media player, everyone would be crying foul, whining about how Microsoft is such a big bad monopoly. But get a bunch of Apple fanboys on this site and all of a sudden it's totally ok for Apple to do that. iTunes is the default music program on Macs. If they want to restrict it and lock it down, I say they should have to provide an alternative or not have it pre-installed in the first place, same as how Microsoft had to decouple Internet Explorer all those years ago.
    1. i9charm's Avatar
      i9charm -
      let's accept Pre as our little brother.
      We all might have to shift to Pre on the event of the end of JB iPhone. No JB means No iPhone.
    1. genuino's Avatar
      genuino -
      I'm with i9charm on this one, no JB, no iPhone.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Pre needs to learn to get their own media player. They are messing with jailbreaking and makes want to chuck the Pre to the ground or shoot it. Piece of cell phone crap.
    1. mattharris85's Avatar
      mattharris85 -
      Quote Originally Posted by awesomeiPod View Post
      Pre needs to learn to get their own media player. They are messing with jailbreaking and makes want to chuck the Pre to the ground or shoot it. Piece of cell phone crap.
      havent you read the other thread? we only shoot iPhones
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      lmao
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      What's really funny to me is that Apple is so uptight and near ridiculous about other companies using their software for legitimate reasons (albeit to support Apple's own competition), yet they seem totally fine with allowing jailbroken phones to sync and even allow custom firmware updates to be installed by Apple's own stock method.

      Maybe they finally realize that jailbreaking has brought some of the best iPhone developers out of the woodwork, and they're just not ready to COMPLETELY give that up yet...
    1. Jonbillsee's Avatar
      Jonbillsee -
      Quote Originally Posted by Melech518 View Post
      I wonder if Apple will start getting "sue" happy? I don't see Apple letting this one slide....
      I don't believe that Apple has any legal remedy against Palm for this work-around. Software companies generally cannot control how consumers that have a valid license--or third parties--may use software. See Lewis Galoob Toys, Inc. v. Nintendo of America, Inc.

      In addition, the USB-IF does not have any legal authority, and as such, the rules and regulations established by the USB-IF are not legislative and cannot give rise to a cause of action in a court of law.
    1. Tokyo's Avatar
      Tokyo -
      This is funny, the unofficial cat and mouse game of Apple and Palm.
    1. SundayDuffer's Avatar
      SundayDuffer -
      I have the Pre. I dont use iTunes. I just create a folder for music and a folder for pictures and drag both folder in the USB mode. Done.
    1. Bernie-Mac's Avatar
      Bernie-Mac -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cow_King View Post
      but because we have paid for our devices we have the right to use it any way we want right?
      Yes.
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      Quote Originally Posted by SundayDuffer View Post
      I have the Pre.
      You have the Pre, but you're a moderator on ModMyI? What has the world come to?!
    1. ebl4287's Avatar
      ebl4287 -
      Palm is wrong in so many levels

      Apple should do whatever it pleases with there software. Apple put the time and work in to make iTunes what it is today, and to have a competitor use it without permission is wrong.

      Apple should do whatever it pleases with there software. Apple put the time and work in to make iTunes what it is today, and to have a competitor use it without permission is wrong.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Apple should make iTunes brick any pre that tries to sync with it
    1. ebl4287's Avatar
      ebl4287 -
      YEAHHHH! A poison code!
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      Apple should make iTunes brick any pre that tries to sync with it
      I prefer a Palm Pre explosion code.
    1. mdc929's Avatar
      mdc929 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      Too bad that by Pre messing with Apple its screwing with us jailbreakers instead :
      Quote Originally Posted by mattharris85 View Post
      Someone needs to bring Apple down off of their "I own the world cloud". I do not however, like someone screwing with my ability to jailbreak
      wtf palm.
      wtf apple.
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      once again Apple wants to make using iTunes as inconvenient as possible. Took them years to adopt DRM-free content and now they don't want to let you use YOUR music, that you PAID THEM to have, be used in a way that doesn't let them milk you for even more cash.

      I hate Apple's business practices but love their products lol :P