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  • ThemeIt: A New Theme Store App Brings Competition to Cydia
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZph_jmf0o]YouTube - Theme it, the theme store - Teaser 1a (with sound) : the iPhone app[/ame]


    It's easy to see that one of the most successful items sold in the Cydia store hands down is Winterboard Themes. With hundreds of designers and millions of users theming their iPhone, iPod and iPad, it creates quite a community of people. Since Cydia aquired Rock, every theme you purchase generally comes through Cydia, unless you perhaps donated to a designer.

    With less than only a day left before it's launch, there are some variables that could shake up the "competition", indirectly bringing some headaches to our iPhone god, Saurik, the man behind Cydia. In fact, Saurik has already been in touch with the folks behind ThemeIt, and has politely asked that they hold back on releasing such a product, but ThemeIt is keeping it's plans to release. However, over the course of all of this, it sounds like ThemeIt has lost their original repository partner, and that word has been travelling from within the community encouraging themers to stay away from the project. No Comment.

    An artcile over at ReadWriteWeb, goes into detail on the response given from ThemeIt, speaking out about their view on competition and in the end, only seem to make things more heated, not really helping the situation.

    Well community? What do you think? Is there room for another App Store? As much as I want to see the theme community push for upgrades and new ways to be a part of it all with ease and intuitive browsing, I can only see a headache forming for both Saurik, and ThemeIt from this process. In my opinion, things need to be closely discussed between ThemeIt and Saurik to come to a reasonable solution. We'll keep up with this release tomorrow and let you know what happens. I'll try and get Saurik to give us his thoughts as well so it's not all hear-say... yeah thats right I gave my opinion anyways.

    From ThemeIt:
    A carefully designed platform (application and website) allowing focus on high-quality themes and also the artists behind the themes in a way that wasn't possible before… it's the Theme Store you've been dreaming of using.

    With some of the best theme creators already on-board we can guarantee you'll have access to amazing and exclusive content in an environment that's sure to meet everyone's needs. Focusing on high-quality, complete themes, the goal of Theme it isn't to have a million themes in the gallery… but the best ones available.

    The platform includes a very user-friendly website and an iPhone/iTouch application to showcase and distribute the themes with instant access to the information you really want, such as screenshots, details, compatibility and much more. You'll also have the opportunity to learn a little more about the artists that create the themes you love and use. A section will be dedicated to these wonderful designers.
    Sources: ReadWriteWeb, ThemeIt
    This article was originally published in forum thread: ThemeIt: A New Theme Store App Brings Competition to Cydia started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 340 Comments
    1. The Amazing Atheist's Avatar
      The Amazing Atheist -
      >_> grow up kids.

      Yes I do think themes should be free. Just like apps in Cydia should be free. The whole point in jailbreaking is to get things for free you couldn't get unjailbroken. Back in the old days you didn't have to pay for jailbroken goods because people made them for fun and not profit. You should have the OPTION to donate money. I've donated a few times myself. But I would never waste money on something I can just make myself with a Photoshop program. It takes a while to make themes, but any halfwit can do it if they took the time and patience to learn as I did.

      As for seeing my themes...I might post some here in the near future.

      Anymore comments or bursts of outrage?


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
    1. The Amazing Atheist's Avatar
      The Amazing Atheist -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      I have a new feeling for ModMyI today............

      ModMyWHINE
      who's whining? I'm just simply stating my opinion. If I were whining, you'd know


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
    1. decke's Avatar
      decke -
      Quote Originally Posted by Th3_Amazing_Ath3ist View Post
      >_> grow up kids.

      Yes I do think themes should be free. Just like apps in Cydia should be free. The whole point in jailbreaking is to get things for free you couldn't get unjailbroken. Back in the old days you didn't have to pay for jailbroken goods because people made them for fun and not profit. You should have the OPTION to donate money. I've donated a few times myself. But I would never waste money on something I can just make myself with a Photoshop program. It takes a while to make themes, but any halfwit can do it if they took the time and patience to learn as I did.

      As for seeing my themes...I might post some here in the near future.

      Anymore comments or bursts of outrage?


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
      That's just a very bad way of seeing things...Jailbreaking is not about getting free stuff. It's about open source, it's about giving end-users more options and freedom. Not pirating apps and themes that the devs work immensely hard on for YOU end-users. Just because the apps and themes are done for jailbroken devices it doesn't mean it shouldn't get the same amount of respect as if from App Store. I think you got the whole jailbreaking idea wrong :/
    1. krosis's Avatar
      krosis -
      Themes are an artistic expression. Some artists dedicate their lives to it, and make their livelihood through it. Some artists do it for relaxation as an escape from their otherwise stressful lives.

      The value of a piece of art has little to do with it's creation, but rather with it's reception. That's one of the difficult things about being an artist; you often don't get a feel for the value of your creation without feedback from the people who appreciate it (sales numbers are a valid form of feedback too).

      Anyone who tries to ascribe their value of a theme as an absolute measure of it's value is arrogant either way they do it. If you don't think a theme is worth it's cost, then don't buy it. If you think it's worth more, donate to the artist, buy or gift extra copies (gifting is one of my top requests for Cydia or ThemeIt), or just send them a genuine thanks with an appreciation for their work in your own words.
    1. solarstar101's Avatar
      solarstar101 -
      The more competition the better hopefully we might see some interesting things out of this
    1. marko111's Avatar
      marko111 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Th3_Amazing_Ath3ist View Post
      >_> grow up kids.

      The whole point in jailbreaking is to get things FOR FREE you couldn't get unjailbroken.
      if you take out the bolded words i would agree with every word you said :-)

      its about being able to do things with our phone that we wouldnt otherwise be able to do. making it look different through theming is a choice some of us make, but that doesnt mean we should be able to do it without compensating the folks that put in a lot of effort to help (most) of us do what we cant ourselves.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      HawaiiAfro -

      Do not post that again.

    1. krosis's Avatar
      krosis -
      Along the same lines as posted in this thread already, here's an interesting post from a Sci-Fi author on his blog about: Reminder: why there's no tipjar on this blog

      It's a 2-3 minute read, from the perspective of an author, on why rather than donate money to him, he'd rather you just go buy another copy of one of his works. It reminds me of what Winterboarder has been describing, where the infrastructure supporting the content is just as important as the content itself.
    1. AnthonyGiola's Avatar
      AnthonyGiola -
      I literally cannot believe that you people have leaked this app. Its FREE and less than 8 hours from release!!! My god what the hell is wrong with our community? Some devs may not have been ready but too bad now! >
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyGiola View Post
      I literally cannot believe that you people have leaked this app. Its FREE and less than 8 hours from release!!! My god what the hell is wrong with our community? Some devs may not have been ready but too bad now! >
      Is it posted any where on mmi that needs to be taken down? I have killed 2 links already
    1. AnthonyGiola's Avatar
      AnthonyGiola -
      Thanks Stealth, not that I have seen but if I see it I'll make sure to mark them for you guys and PM you. Thanks. I was in the middle of updating my theme on there and all of a sudden people have the app! NOT COOL.
    1. mitch4731's Avatar
      mitch4731 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      Is it posted any where on mmi that needs to be taken down? I have killed 2 links already
      Bad luck
    1. viriiguy's Avatar
      viriiguy -
      Meh,
      Doesn't even have iPad support.
    1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
      Kyle Matthews -
      Quote Originally Posted by Th3_Amazing_Ath3ist View Post
      The whole point in jailbreaking is to get things for free you couldn't get unjailbroken. Back in the old days you didn't have to pay for jailbroken goods because people made them for fun and not profit. You should have the OPTION to donate money. I've donated a few times myself. But I would never waste money on something I can just make myself with a Photoshop program. It takes a while to make themes, but any halfwit can do it if they took the time and patience to learn as I did.
      Quote Originally Posted by decke View Post
      That's just a very bad way of seeing things...Jailbreaking is not about getting free stuff. It's about open source, it's about giving end-users more options and freedom. Not pirating apps and themes that the devs work immensely hard on for YOU end-users. Just because the apps and themes are done for jailbroken devices it doesn't mean it shouldn't get the same amount of respect as if from App Store. I think you got the whole jailbreaking idea wrong :/
      /\ /\ yes /\ /\
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      The "leak" is under control. Now for some important news...

      6 hrs 43 min 17 sec and counting until ThemeIt goes live !!

    1. AnthonyGiola's Avatar
      AnthonyGiola -
      Quote Originally Posted by toyvan View Post
      The "leak" is under control. Now for some important news...

      6 hrs 43 min 17 sec and counting until ThemeIt goes live !!

      The infomercial LIVES!
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyGiola View Post
      The infomercial LIVES!

      Hey this thread is about Themeit afterall
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      Quote Originally Posted by Winterboarder View Post
      Obviously you didn't edit all 1500 UI elemnts and see how much work goes into making a good looking theme, nor ever ran a repository.

      Let me educate you a little and see what goes into 2 dollars:

      1. A real theme is changing the entire user interface not just a background and few icons. Massive amounts of time and creativity goes into this. Sometimes I worked on themes 12 hours a day 7 days a week.

      2. Hosting:
      In my case I didn't want my themes to go into a pool of half *** made themes so I made my own repo. I had to learn to work with Debian. My repository is on the More Package Sources list in Cydia and because of this I get about 700Gigs of traffic so a dedicated server is needed. It costs me $150 a month for the server, money I don't always have and could otherwise spend on other things. Just imagine what kind of traffic Saurik, MMI and BB get.

      3. Distribution:
      Once you publish something in Cydia it will pop in the Changes section at the top. That is when it gets the most exposure. Withing a few hours the other repositories throw in a slew of garbage and push your theme all the way to the bottom. Within a few days you are buried and just hope for some word of mouth.

      4. The Garbage:
      Sadly it is a necessity in order to keep a repository financially afloat. The ad revenue is a must unless you are rich and don't have anything better to do with your money. So people who complain about Advertising just shove it.

      5. Cydia Store
      Once it became a reality, I had to pay somebody to code the back end in order for my repo to work with Saurik's API. I had to wait over a month for my package names to be added to his database because I'm not a big fish and I'm not in his circle of friends. Even so, winterboarder was one of the first repos to sell themes in Cydia Store. Don't imagine that it is a money maker either. At best it made me 20 bucks a month.

      6. Incentive:
      Why would anyone put in all this effort? For me is a very good learning experience and the stuff I learned by doing this you can't learn in a classroom. If you run a repo like MMI I just can't imagine doing it part time while holding a job to put a roof over your head and bread on the table. All the repositories got started out of passion and if you can make a living doing what you love, I think that is bliss. Never easy, but bliss none the less.

      7. Cydia Theme Center
      Hallelujah and props to MacCity, MMi and Saurik for making it happen. There is some order in the chaos and good theme artists will be recognized and compensated for their efforts. Now I have a second wind to make themes for 4.X firmware. As for ThemeIt nice effort hope they make it, but not likely, unless they get incorporated into Cydia.

      Adrian S.
      Winterboarder
      Usually I dont read comments but this was very interesting I knew some of it but you told me a lot thank you
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      Quote Originally Posted by toyvan View Post
      The "leak" is under control. Now for some important news...

      6 hrs 43 min 17 sec and counting until ThemeIt goes live !!

      What repo will be hosting it?
    1. one_crazy_dude's Avatar
      one_crazy_dude -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mrteacup View Post
      What repo will be hosting it?
      I'd like to know this to cause the modmyi repo has been down all day and haven't been able to download my purchases for today