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  • ThemeIt: A New Theme Store App Brings Competition to Cydia
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZph_jmf0o]YouTube - Theme it, the theme store - Teaser 1a (with sound) : the iPhone app[/ame]


    It's easy to see that one of the most successful items sold in the Cydia store hands down is Winterboard Themes. With hundreds of designers and millions of users theming their iPhone, iPod and iPad, it creates quite a community of people. Since Cydia aquired Rock, every theme you purchase generally comes through Cydia, unless you perhaps donated to a designer.

    With less than only a day left before it's launch, there are some variables that could shake up the "competition", indirectly bringing some headaches to our iPhone god, Saurik, the man behind Cydia. In fact, Saurik has already been in touch with the folks behind ThemeIt, and has politely asked that they hold back on releasing such a product, but ThemeIt is keeping it's plans to release. However, over the course of all of this, it sounds like ThemeIt has lost their original repository partner, and that word has been travelling from within the community encouraging themers to stay away from the project. No Comment.

    An artcile over at ReadWriteWeb, goes into detail on the response given from ThemeIt, speaking out about their view on competition and in the end, only seem to make things more heated, not really helping the situation.

    Well community? What do you think? Is there room for another App Store? As much as I want to see the theme community push for upgrades and new ways to be a part of it all with ease and intuitive browsing, I can only see a headache forming for both Saurik, and ThemeIt from this process. In my opinion, things need to be closely discussed between ThemeIt and Saurik to come to a reasonable solution. We'll keep up with this release tomorrow and let you know what happens. I'll try and get Saurik to give us his thoughts as well so it's not all hear-say... yeah thats right I gave my opinion anyways.

    From ThemeIt:
    A carefully designed platform (application and website) allowing focus on high-quality themes and also the artists behind the themes in a way that wasn't possible before… it's the Theme Store you've been dreaming of using.

    With some of the best theme creators already on-board we can guarantee you'll have access to amazing and exclusive content in an environment that's sure to meet everyone's needs. Focusing on high-quality, complete themes, the goal of Theme it isn't to have a million themes in the gallery… but the best ones available.

    The platform includes a very user-friendly website and an iPhone/iTouch application to showcase and distribute the themes with instant access to the information you really want, such as screenshots, details, compatibility and much more. You'll also have the opportunity to learn a little more about the artists that create the themes you love and use. A section will be dedicated to these wonderful designers.
    Sources: ReadWriteWeb, ThemeIt
    This article was originally published in forum thread: ThemeIt: A New Theme Store App Brings Competition to Cydia started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 340 Comments
    1. metaserph's Avatar
      metaserph -
      ^+1
    1. larke's Avatar
      larke -
      my main questions that i have to wait til monday i guess to be answered is how are the themes gonna work based on iOS versions and are you still going to need winterboard installed or even iacess (which doesnt work for me) installed for keyboards and the font app installed for all these themes or have they figured a way to get it all done in its standalone app, cause then they have reason for saurik to suck it up and take it.
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      Quote Originally Posted by h2a View Post
      Maybe this will help inspire Saurik to make Cydia suck less.
      IMO, Cydia sucks because it's not run like a legitimate business with rules, strict guidelines and quality control. Anyone with half a brain can develop their own repo and host crappy packages. It's not all saurik's fault
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      Quote Originally Posted by CX3NT3_713 View Post
      Hahaha, themeit Is doing what Cydia, did too apple!!!
      Lol so true what if saurik starts blocking themeit
    1. Anonomys's Avatar
      Anonomys -
      Quote Originally Posted by toyvan View Post
      The reasons why Saurik doesn't support themeit are not important. Let's concentrate on themeit and how much you're going to love and support it!
      Well said, my friend. Moving right along...

      You all will love ThemeIt. There really is no doubt in my mind.
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Did you all the stuff before? Rock took shortcuts it shouldn't have and caused unstable JB phones, look I liked rock too but now that I understand that would you rather have stability or faster?

      Hmm I want my phone to work right
      Agreed plus the new cydia is very fast. I don't think saurik some control freak that doesn't want the best for cydia. all he wanted with getting rid of rock was more stability to jailbreaks. plus who can blame him if he wants a little money for CREATING CYDIA.
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      Quote Originally Posted by larke View Post
      my main questions that i have to wait til monday i guess to be answered is how are the themes gonna work based on iOS versions and are you still going to need winterboard installed or even iacess (which doesnt work for me) installed for keyboards and the font app installed for all these themes or have they figured a way to get it all done in its standalone app, cause then they have reason for saurik to suck it up and take it.
      Themeit will automatically recognize your device and firmware and will not allow u to install themes that are not compatible..now how cool is that? - Also it's up to theme developers to let u know what tweaks/apps u need in order to make their themes work properly...we can easily set dependencies within the dev portal so tweaks like five icon dock, spring jumps etc. are installed with your theme download.

      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      I have wasted a lot of time DL themes that do not work, and ones that crash.
      I have a free theme now and like it and some free themes would be nice but I understand that you have to have paid ones as well.
      Free themes will be coming shortly after launch
    1. SnowLeo's Avatar
      SnowLeo -
      " it sounds like ThemeIt has lost their original repository partner.."
      Lol OP acts like he doesnt know that repository is MMI. Because MMi doesnt want to do anything to make King saurik upset... Can't blame you guys but you have to realize how much Theme_it is better than cydia thats filled with thousands of crappy themes. Common isnt it the goal on MMi's site to have high quality themes.
    1. Ven0M0D's Avatar
      Ven0M0D -
      this is bad in a couple ways..
      like ronfin said saurik is acting like apple thats bad
      but also the more competition the more hype, if jailbreaking becomes mainstream then everything on cydia will cost money and there will be rules and like hesson said just a big headache. i would like to see something new but not see them compete
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Wow, I sure feel left out of the loop seeing as how so many of you seem to intuitively know what Saurik's thoughts, feelings, and reasons for contacting the developers of ThemeIt were.

      Since when has Saurik ever regulated what can or can't be installed on your iDevice? For the denser members of this site, the answer is NEVER. If he had such control over what is installable through Cydia don't you think he'd block things such as Instal****? Hell, why wouldn't he have just blocked the ability to install Rock via Cydia?

      Also, a lot of you seem to think Saurik is just sitting back making money hand over fist from Cydia. That is far from the truth.

      A lot of the complaints I've read about browsing themes in Cydia are not the fault of Cydia itself. Rather they are due to crappy regulation and quality control by the repository owners themselves! To have crappy apps/themes on rather unknown repos is one thing, but to be one of the default/primary repositories and still allow the devs to submit apps/themes with incomplete info/screenshots is unacceptable. Yes, Cydia most certainly needs to renovate how it handles themes, but the big repositories need to be held to a higher level of scrutiny as well.


      That being said, I don't really care one way or the other about ThemeIt. I used to install themes all the time on my phones but I've gotten tired of it and haven't even had Winterboard on my phone for almost 5 months now. I've gone in and customized some of the sounds on my iPhone, but that's as far as I plan on "theming" it for the foreseeable future.


      I really would like to hear what Saurik has to say about this topic and hopefully he'll chime in on this thread soon.
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mrteacup View Post
      Lol so true what if saurik starts blocking themeit
      you are a tool

      Quote Originally Posted by SnowLeo View Post
      " it sounds like ThemeIt has lost their original repository partner.."
      Lol OP acts like he doesnt know that repository is MMI. Because MMi doesnt want to do anything to make King saurik upset... Can't blame you guys but you have to realize how much Theme_it is better than cydia thats filled with thousands of crappy themes. Common isnt it the goal on MMi's site to have high quality themes.
      If this gets me banned so be it, but the modmyi repo has many shite themes on Cydia, this isn't Sauriks fault it's modmyi's
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ven0M0D View Post
      this is bad in a couple ways..
      like ronfin said saurik is acting like apple thats bad
      but also the more competition the more hype, if jailbreaking becomes mainstream then everything on cydia will cost money and there will be rules and like hesson said just a big headache. i would like to see something new but not see them compete
      Themeit was not developed to compete with Cydia, or out of animosity towards anyone or anything. It was created because a lot of people in the community have been demanding change. It was created with only the best interest of the community in mind, nothing more nothing less.

      In a perfect world of puppies and ice cream it would be great if we could all just get a long and play nice. Unfortunately that is not the case and such is life.
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      How will the /app/ be implemented into the idevice? Obviously the app store will not accept it, if it's from a repo via Cydia, that would be odd to say the least.
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      Quote Originally Posted by dsg View Post
      If this gets me banned so be it, but the modmyi repo has many shite themes on Cydia, this isn't Sauriks fault it's modmyi
      Like I mentioned earlier, it's the repos responsibility for quality control.

      Quote Originally Posted by GellBrake'rrrr View Post
      How will the /app/ be implemented into the idevice? Obviously the app store will not accept it, if it's from a repo via Cydia, that would be odd to say the least.
      Ironically enough themeit will be installed via Cydia through themeit's repo. After all it is "open source" . If repos that host cracked apps and themes are allowed why would themeit be blocked?

      It can also be manually installed if you know how to ssh
    1. Richard's Avatar
      Richard -
      A little competition is always good, We all appreciate what Saurik has done and continues to do, But there should always be choice. Like Cydia v Rock 99% tried Rock but went back to Cydia in the end.

      So i say lets give it a go and if you don't like it use Cydia and if it turns out to be amazing Saurik will have to make a better product
    1. Doran's Avatar
      Doran -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      Wow, I sure feel left out of the loop seeing as how so many of you seem to intuitively know what Saurik's thoughts, feelings, and reasons for contacting the developers of ThemeIt were.

      Since when has Saurik ever regulated what can or can't be installed on your iDevice? For the denser members of this site, the answer is NEVER. If he had such control over what is installable through Cydia don't you think he'd block things such as Instal****? Hell, why wouldn't he have just blocked the ability to install Rock via Cydia?

      Also, a lot of you seem to think Saurik is just sitting back making money hand over fist from Cydia. That is far from the truth.

      A lot of the complaints I've read about browsing themes in Cydia are not the fault of Cydia itself. Rather they are due to crappy regulation and quality control by the repository owners themselves! To have crappy apps/themes on rather unknown repos is one thing, but to be one of the default/primary repositories and still allow the devs to submit apps/themes with incomplete info/screenshots is unacceptable. Yes, Cydia most certainly needs to renovate how it handles themes, but the big repositories need to be held to a higher level of scrutiny as well.


      That being said, I don't really care one way or the other about ThemeIt. I used to install themes all the time on my phones but I've gotten tired of it and haven't even had Winterboard on my phone for almost 5 months now. I've gone in and customized some of the sounds on my iPhone, but that's as far as I plan on "theming" it for the foreseeable future.


      I really would like to hear what Saurik has to say about this topic and hopefully he'll chime in on this thread soon.
      Thank you for putting into words that would have been a stream of ********* ******* ********* by the time I was done......
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      Quote Originally Posted by toyvan View Post
      Like I mentioned earlier, it's the repos responsibility for quality control.



      Ironically enough themeit will be installed via Cydia through themeit's repo. After all it is "open source" . If repos that host cracked apps and themes are allowed why would themeit be blocked?

      It can also be manually installed if you know how to ssh
      Gotcha. And after reading your response, it hit me that rock was also available via Cydia. It just made me wonder.... Since /overall/ Saurik has control of what's on Cydia, if he were really against it he could block that repo.

      I'm not saying he would /or/ should. But wouldn't he be able to do so if he wanted to??

      Ssh makes sense. I've been adding themes via Winscp for years now.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by nickhesson View Post
      With less than only a day left before it's launch...
    1. decke's Avatar
      decke -
      Quote Originally Posted by coolguy742 View Post
      Good that there is now a competitor to Cydia, bad that it's themes only.
      I WANT ROCK BACK...


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
      Have you heard about App it? shh.....
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      I can't wait for the release!!! I've seen StealthBravo tweeting how awesome it was for weeks now. I am excited to know that when I open a preview of a /so called/ theme..... Wait for the preview page to load (this was before the speed increase from cydia), then it finally opens...... And all it had to it was a background picture.