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  • Holiday Ad Wars Kick into High Gear


    There had been some rumors and speculation in recent weeks that Verizon's next round of holiday "attack ads" would take aim at Apple, iPhone jailbreakers, and, of course, AT&T. For now, however, it seems that Verizon is just going to focus on coverage claims against AT&T.

    Apple Insider has amassed the new ads, which have just begun running. The titles of the ads include: "Naughty Nice," "Misfit Toys," and "Blue Christmas."

    [The ads] prominently feature the coverage maps first introduced in the "There's a Map for That" commercial. These maps were a point of contention between Verizon and AT&T, causing AT&T to bring a lawsuit against Verizon for misrepresenting AT&T's 3G coverage areas.
    Despite AT&T taking legal action, Verizon isn't pulling punches, even as AT&T claims that Verizon is misleading consumers with wild accusations about AT&T's less-than-stellar 3G coverage area.

    Strangely enough, this latest round of holiday ads may be foreshadowing a relationship between Apple, the iPhone, and Verizon - one possible explanation for why Verizon didn't deliver any harsh jabs anywhere else except at AT&T.

    In the ads, it is clear Verizon has tried to separate their criticism of AT&T from the iPhone itself, going so far as to call the phone "A great 3G phone without great 3G coverage." This may be an indication that the rumors of Verizon offering the iPhone sometime in 2010 have some truth behind them.
    The latest ads from Verizon come as research firm OTR Global "cites sources in the Taiwan handset supply chain" claiming that Apple is now working on a new iPhone for distribution in partnership with Verizon.







    This article was originally published in forum thread: Holiday Ad Wars Kick into High Gear started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 38 Comments
    1. Squeaky369's Avatar
      Squeaky369 -
      Quote Originally Posted by brianturney View Post
      I dont know who at apple is fu# who at att but it sure seems like the sooner Apple ditches its crack whore att the better off they'll be. I think ATT 3G coverage sucks *****. I live near seattle and JUST 20 minutes on a major freeway out of seattle your 3G drops, a mere 10 minutes past that your service goes to No Service all together. I'm sure many of you can relate. ATT sucks. Apple will suffer until they ditch ATT which it seems like they are treating like a co-dependant crack whore.
      Verizon DOES NOT have that much 3G coverage like they show in their maps. Plus, Verizon's "3G" is different than AT&T. Thus, why AT&T is suing them. Trust me, drive to Michigan (or talk to someone that lives there) according to the Verizon map, pretty much EVERYWHERE has 3G coverage. ********. There isn't ANY. The data is slower then dialup on ANY phone. Verizon is full of **** and they are going to pay for it in court. If you go to their website and pull up their V-Cast map, and where V-Cast is available, you'll see it's the exact same places that AT&T 3G is.

      Quit your ********. Verizon is NOT getting the iPhone. Never will because their network CANNOT SUPPORT THE DATA USAGE that iPhone users bring. Apple would not have chosen AT&T if it wasn't the best one for the phone. Apple knows better then that.
    1. bbillh77's Avatar
      bbillh77 -
      I hope they get into a price war as well
    1. 1shuttle1's Avatar
      1shuttle1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky369 View Post
      Verizon DOES NOT have that much 3G coverage like they show in their maps. Plus, Verizon's "3G" is different than AT&T. Thus, why AT&T is suing them. Trust me, drive to Michigan (or talk to someone that lives there) according to the Verizon map, pretty much EVERYWHERE has 3G coverage. ********. There isn't ANY. The data is slower then dialup on ANY phone. Verizon is full of **** and they are going to pay for it in court. If you go to their website and pull up their V-Cast map, and where V-Cast is available, you'll see it's the exact same places that AT&T 3G is.

      Quit your ********. Verizon is NOT getting the iPhone. Never will because their network CANNOT SUPPORT THE DATA USAGE that iPhone users bring. Apple would not have chosen AT&T if it wasn't the best one for the phone. Apple knows better then that.
      I have had both and those maps are both full of sh*t. I sell medical equipment through DE, PA, NY, and MD and i drop 3g all the time where it's suppose to be on both networks over the last couple of years. Both companies are suppose to be strong through the Northeast. I used to be on Verizon and switched for the iphone to AT&T. I would love to know what perfect condition with some sort of modified phones they use to make these maps.
    1. bengo's Avatar
      bengo -
      Quote Originally Posted by ty22 View Post
      Personally, I don't care about coverage. I don't really leave the city much. AT&T's 3G is faster than Verizon's and AT&T's GSM allows it to work around the world(gotta love the sim card).
      Nice irony...

      3G is 3G, and it's not AT&T's GSM allowing you to use the phone around the world... unless you're stupid enough to keep your AT&T sim card in the phone when you travel
    1. cbx133's Avatar
      cbx133 -
      One thing the maps do not show are the 3g strengths around the map. Verizon has strong 3g is in major cities, just like AT&T, except it is slower around the board. It is damn near Edge speeds in the outskirts and ATT has EDGE in about 80% of similar locations. It's just marketing guys, and Verizon is showing they are at least good at that..
    1. pacmac's Avatar
      pacmac -
      why does the iphone have 2 speaker grills? Verizon just wants iphone on there network..there hating..
    1. thatcoralguy's Avatar
      thatcoralguy -
      And this is why i just moved over to the andriod. So that I can tether without having install a hack, can still enjoy my favorite themes, and got my permanent factory unlock code from my carrier.

      No need for cydia anymore because all of my favorite apps are on the android market and they are "legal" to download.

      Apple claims that jailbreaking your iphone is illegal while my carrier considers me a hero for jailbreaking my android. The instructions to do so are on my carriers web site. I'd rather feel like a hero rather than a felon. Especially a convicted one if apple decides to come after the jailbreakers.

      Even if you feel that it is not illegal or your cousin who when to law school tells you that it is not illegal to jailbreak your iphone, do you honestly have the financial resources to pay for a good attorney once you get the subpoena in the mail that you are being sued and are required to appear in court all because you wanted that cute hello kitty theme on your cell phone?

      Not to mention that you now have a permanent crimininal record for copyright infringement. All in the name of downloading mostly rediculously stupid hacks from cydia that almost always render your wifi useless.

      Remember that Jobs despises you. Why do you support his products and continue to make him richer each day. Especially when we all know that Woz was the true brains behind the same piece of fruit that eve coerced adam to eat which is why we have the bottomless fiery pit in the first place.

      On my over now to modmygphone.com to see whats new and exciting. Hope to see you there soon.
    1. Slimz's Avatar
      Slimz -
      What makes me kind of raise an eyebrow, that pic says 5x more 3G Coverage, and they show Alaska having coverage in the South Central part of Alaska. Meaning, Anchorage and the nearby cities.

      Verizon doesn't offer 3G in Alaska. Matter in fact, while you can get coverage here in Alaska, Verizon does not offer service here, much less 3G. The phones run on ACS' towers.
    1. staterunner180's Avatar
      staterunner180 -
      I wonder if the iPhone is in all the commercials concerning 3G because Verizon is trying to show how much better it would work on their network, or if they are just using it because its one of AT&T's best selling phones.
      Hmmmm...
    1. Blowfish64's Avatar
      Blowfish64 -
      Quote Originally Posted by thatcoralguy View Post
      And this is why i just moved over to the andriod. So that I can tether without having install a hack, can still enjoy my favorite themes, and got my permanent factory unlock code from my carrier.

      No need for cydia anymore because all of my favorite apps are on the android market and they are "legal" to download.

      Apple claims that jailbreaking your iphone is illegal while my carrier considers me a hero for jailbreaking my android. The instructions to do so are on my carriers web site. I'd rather feel like a hero rather than a felon. Especially a convicted one if apple decides to come after the jailbreakers.

      Even if you feel that it is not illegal or your cousin who when to law school tells you that it is not illegal to jailbreak your iphone, do you honestly have the financial resources to pay for a good attorney once you get the subpoena in the mail that you are being sued and are required to appear in court all because you wanted that cute hello kitty theme on your cell phone?

      Not to mention that you now have a permanent crimininal record for copyright infringement. All in the name of downloading mostly rediculously stupid hacks from cydia that almost always render your wifi useless.

      Remember that Jobs despises you. Why do you support his products and continue to make him richer each day. Especially when we all know that Woz was the true brains behind the same piece of fruit that eve coerced adam to eat which is why we have the bottomless fiery pit in the first place.

      On my over now to modmygphone.com to see whats new and exciting. Hope to see you there soon.
      What in God's name are you talking about? Illegal? Criminal record? Rendering WiFi useless? The only thing in your post that was remotely correct is that Jobs is an idiot.
    1. Bernie-Mac's Avatar
      Bernie-Mac -
      Quote Originally Posted by thatcoralguy View Post
      Apple claims that jailbreaking your iphone is illegal while my carrier considers me a hero for jailbreaking my android. The instructions to do so are on my carriers web site. I'd rather feel like a hero rather than a felon. Especially a convicted one if apple decides to come after the jailbreakers.

      A) Apple can claim what they want, jailbreaking is not illegal in any way and they cannot prosecute you in any way. If so, I would be in jail for all the jailbroken iPhones I've given Apple in exchanges.
      B) It's a blast to be a pirate, ask Jobs
      C) What the hell are you talking about?
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      this i all getting REALLY LAME. i get great coverage with AT&T nuff said....NO ehhh. NO uhhhh. No ahhhh.
    1. 10ika's Avatar
      10ika -
      Quote Originally Posted by rhekt View Post
      this i all getting REALLY LAME. i get great coverage with AT&T nuff said....NO ehhh. NO uhhhh. No ahhhh.
      funny ..lol
    1. knguyen's Avatar
      knguyen -
      Correct me if I'm wrong but the larger the coverage area, the more phones will be hogging bandwidths, that means slower speed right?
    1. bruinsrme's Avatar
      bruinsrme -
      Quote Originally Posted by knguyen View Post
      Correct me if I'm wrong but the larger the coverage area, the more phones will be hogging bandwidths, that means slower speed right?

      This is exactly what ATT has been whining about since the 3G was introduced.
      MMS too much bandwidth
      Apps that could take up too much bandwidth

      I would love to see the iphone on verizon. it could not be any worse than an iphone on ATT.
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      These ads crack me up! But I'll stick with my iPhone, and the fact that 3G is up in my area. Verizon is getting pretty pathetic, because none of there phones can even come close to the iPhone. And I don't even think that Verizon 3G coverage is as good as they claim. Verizon doen't have the iPhone, therefor they hate it. LOL
    1. one_crazy_dude's Avatar
      one_crazy_dude -
      I would love to see verizon get an iPhone. Then all the AT&T haters can leave and swamp up verizons network slow it down and the ones that stay with AT&T including I can read about how it's not better on the other side while we with AT&T enjoy all the extra bandwith. Just my opinion
    1. bbillh77's Avatar
      bbillh77 -
      verizion has more slower coverage at&t has faster coverage 3g coverage on verizon in the middle of nowhere isnt much better then edge anyway if verizion does get the next iphone they will get hurt by data use