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  • Is Apple Killing Nintendo?


    Despite a resurgence in popularity born of the release of Nintendo's Wii, the venerable Japanese video game maker is taking an earnings beatdown. And most blame Apple as the likely culprit.

    This week, Nintendo revealed that its fiscal-first-half net profit plummeted better than 50% and added that things are bound to get worse before they get better. As reported by MacDailyNews, Nintendo "faces growing competition in the hand-held market from Apple Inc.'s iPhone and iPod touch and their growing lineup of games," writes Kenneth Maxwell of the Wall Street Journal.

    "Nintendo on Thursday said it will introduce a new version of its popular DS hand-held, the Nintendo DSi LL, that comes with a larger 4.2-inch screen that allows users to surf the Web and will encourage them to use the device as a music player. The current DSi has a 3.25-inch screen. The company said it will go on sale in Japan on Nov. 21, though it did not announce any immediate plans to sell the new device outside of Japan."
    Although no one is saying that Nintendo is dead in the water, Apple has certainly made it difficult for Nintendo to stay afloat. And if the rumors that Apple Insider reports prove to be true, Nintendo may have more of an uphill fight than most realize.

    As Apple continues to gain ground in the portable gaming space, the Wall Street Journal also suggested that the Cupertino, Calif., company could enter the console business and compete with the Nintendo Wii, Microsoft Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3. While that rumor has persisted for years, it has yet to prove accurate.
    Although the news this week seems to suggest that Apple is squaring off against Nintendo, the truth, however, probably lies in the growing battle between Apple and Microsoft. If Apple does, indeed, introduce their own gaming console, its likely that such a development would be intended to do battle with the XBox 360 and Sony's Playstation 3. Although Nintendo would still face added competition from such a venture by Apple, it's safe to assume that Nintendo would not be target #1 for Apple.

    Apple also boasted in September that, at that moment, the iPhone OS had 21,179 game and entertainment titles available, compared to 3,680 for the Nintendo DS and 607 for the Sony PSP. One of the strengths of the iPhone and iPod touch is the number of budget-priced titles available for the platform. Comparatively, most games for the Nintendo DS and Sony PSP cost between $25 and $40.
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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Is Apple Killing Nintendo? started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 42 Comments
    1. souledge316's Avatar
      souledge316 -
      Another year, another DS upgrade. Nintendo fans must be feeling like an abused spouse, every time they spend $140 and in a few months they release a new version of the DS.

      *slap*
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      Tell me about it. My boy wants one for Christmas and the newer version comes out a month later! Aggravating.
    1. rodrigui4980's Avatar
      rodrigui4980 -
      Quote Originally Posted by souledge316 View Post
      Another year, another DS upgrade. Nintendo fans must be feeling like an abused spouse, every time they spend $140 and in a few months they release a new version of the DS.

      *slap*
      rotflmao I was thinking the same thing...btw I have a DS lite.
    1. TooSlo's Avatar
      TooSlo -
      Quote Originally Posted by souledge316 View Post
      Another year, another DS upgrade. Nintendo fans must be feeling like an abused spouse, every time they spend $140 and in a few months they release a new version of the DS.

      *slap*
      Out of curiosity, how often were new iphone models put out?

      Get Jobs in here, he needs a slap in the face, STAT!
    1. smuggler's Avatar
      smuggler -
      iphone gaming suuuucks, it is full of flaws
    1. bbongrip's Avatar
      bbongrip -
      apple has already tried their luck in the gaming console industry years ago!!!!! but it floped

      check it out
      Apple Bandai Pippin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    1. mikerlx's Avatar
      mikerlx -
      ^^^^^^apple bringing game console in a saturated market? the iphone came in a saturated market...Wii is for children and elderly and PS3 and Xbox is for older Mature titled gaming crowd.
    1. big poops's Avatar
      big poops -
      wow! im happy with my 360 and halo 3 and COD... ill be damned if bungie makes some games for apple console!
    1. playboii's Avatar
      playboii -
      can someone please list some iphone games that are better then the games on the DS i have yet to truly find 1 game that i find worthy to play on the iphone
    1. karnell23's Avatar
      karnell23 -
      It's a kill or be killed business so nintendo has to step up their game!!! But when u think about it apple shouldn't be affecting them at all!!! People are just starting to respect iPhone a lil more!!! It's not just a fone!!! This is for nintendo, I can play nintendo, super nintendo, and DS on my iPhone!!! You better get to work!!!
    1. jetfuel495's Avatar
      jetfuel495 -
      If apple goes after nintendo at all I will gladly give up my iPhone and all things apple related.

      Nintendo <3
    1. Deadlydanz93's Avatar
      Deadlydanz93 -
      they didnt beat sony gamming wise, ipod touch/iphone offers a much wider multimedia range and compatability compared to the sonys psp. sonys gaming industry offers the best gaming experience and you can tell by the graphics and gameplay on a psp compared to a ipod touch/iphone
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      iPhone gaming is not the best but its not the worst either. Games like Sally's Salon are fun to pass the time during school and work. I wouldn't ever play a Mario based game that required controlled multi-touching, its just not appealing. IF Apple put out a gaming system it would have to reach an audience that the PS3, X-Box, and Wii haven't and it would have to be a reasonable price (which might be the hardest part for them). I really don't think that Nintendo lost so much in sales due to Apple, that just seems like a bit of a stretch. Nintendo just needs to step up their game and get something out there that can reach a bigger audience, everyone else is.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by souledge316 View Post
      Another year, another DS upgrade. Nintendo fans must be feeling like an abused spouse, every time they spend $140 and in a few months they release a new version of the DS.

      *slap*
      Remind me how this is different from other the PSP and *gasp* the iphone and ipod touch?
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      Quote Originally Posted by playboii View Post
      can someone please list some iphone games that are better then the games on the DS i have yet to truly find 1 game that i find worthy to play on the iphone
      There are some very decent titles out for the iPhone but they are mostly pick up and play type of games. Nothing too involved.

      Some good ones I've played and continue to enjoy - Real Racing (probably one of the best examples of what a full title can do with online leagues), Slugger (with online play), Sniper vs. Sniper (with online play), Modern Combat: Sandstorm (up there with Real Racing graphics wise), Need for Speed Undercover, Fieldrunners, Flight Control, Harbor Master, Spider (excellent pick up and play story based), Peggle, Doom Resurrection (even though it is on rails it is well done), Zenonia (25-30 hours of gameplay RPG) and Backbreaker are some of the best I've played and continue to play.

      That is a nice list for you to start out with...

      EDIT: I should add I don't have a DS so I can't say they are better but they all deserve a gamers attention. I've owned NES, SNES, Playstation and PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast, Genesis, and Atari and the portable Gamegear way back when. You can say I was big into gaming in my teens and early 20s.
    1. rwin84's Avatar
      rwin84 -
      nintendo will survive... they have made it this long...
    1. playboii's Avatar
      playboii -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      There are some very decent titles out for the iPhone but they are mostly pick up and play type of games. Nothing too involved.

      Some good ones I've played and continue to enjoy - Real Racing (probably one of the best examples of what a full title can do with online leagues), Slugger (with online play), Sniper vs. Sniper (with online play), Modern Combat: Sandstorm (up there with Real Racing graphics wise), Need for Speed Undercover, Fieldrunners, Flight Control, Harbor Master, Spider (excellent pick up and play story based), Peggle, Doom Resurrection (even though it is on rails it is well done), Zenonia (25-30 hours of gameplay RPG) and Backbreaker are some of the best I've played and continue to play.

      That is a nice list for you to start out with...

      EDIT: I should add I don't have a DS so I can't say they are better but they all deserve a gamers attention. I've owned NES, SNES, Playstation and PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast, Genesis, and Atari and the portable Gamegear way back when. You can say I was big into gaming in my teens and early 20s.
      thanks i am going to check out some of these games
    1. souledge316's Avatar
      souledge316 -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      Remind me how this is different from other the PSP and *gasp* the iphone and ipod touch?
      I wouldn't know about iphone since I'm a late adopter, but the PSP has basically remained the same exact hardware since 2005, so the PSP you got at launch works the same and has the same features as the slim version, only now, 4 years later did Sony added new features with the GO(which is a waste of money itself). In contrast to the 4 different versions of the DS, which make their buyers feel as dopes since a year later you get a different version with added features for the same exact price.

      Nintendo should offer a trade in deal.
    1. DayumQuitPlayin's Avatar
      DayumQuitPlayin -
      I'm sorry but this article made me laugh a little. I highly doubt Apple had caused Nintendo to lose 50% profit. First and foremost.. you must understand that the iPhone and iPod Touch are gaining in popularity and almost everyone has one now. Just because Apple has that many games doesn't mean those games are of any real value, figuring since a lot of these developers are popping out Apps after Apps just to turn a profit. We all know how much crap is in the AppStore. So many variations of an App it's ridiculous.

      Until Apple creates a gaming console... Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will be ok. Apple right now isn't a big competitor.. their "games" are cheap and affordable which explains why they're selling and making a profit. But with more true gamers out there.. we prefer physical controls.. not touch/tapping a screen to play a game. I hate playing a game that was meant to be played on a console.. unless it's an original game created for the iPhone which is cheap.
    1. TheSkepticalGuy's Avatar
      TheSkepticalGuy -
      This article makes me laugh, Apple will never sell as much as the Nintendo DS and these are two diferent types of systems and not even related.

      Maybe it will make the Sony PSP go out of bussines cos it uses downloadable content like the iPhone but not the Nintendo DSi.