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  • In-App Purchases in Free Apps are a go
    [Imagine a picture of a cat holding an iPhone while jumping off an exploding building here]

    Quote Originally Posted by Our Lord and Master, Apple
    In App Purchase is being rapidly adopted by developers in their paid apps. Now you can use In App Purchase in your free apps to sell content, subscriptions, and digital services.

    You can also simplify your development by creating a single version of your app that uses In App Purchase to unlock additional functionality, eliminating the need to create Lite versions of your app. Using In App Purchase in your app can also help combat some of the problems of software piracy by allowing you to verify In App Purchases.

    Visit the App Store Resource Center for more details about how you can add In App Purchases to your free apps.
    Now before you go back to complain about Apple fixing exploits and what you're entitled to do with your phone, take a minute to let the news sink in. What does this mean for the future?

    No more Lite version - Mentioned in the announcement itself, developers can now (if they choose to) package their whole app under a free title, letting you try it, then if you want to really get it, just unlock the full game/app through an in-app purchase.

    The end of piracy? - Probably not, but it'll be harder now. Since in-app purchases are verified through Apple to check that your account has in fact purchased the feature before being unlocked, you won't be able to just find a cracked .ipa and call it a day.

    NO MORE "FREE 40 PRESTIGE POINTS IN HAPPY MMO FUN KITTY TIME" littering the free section of the store - Developers for these MMO games can now "sell" these through the app itself.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: In-App Purchases in Free Apps are a go started by Happy Noodle Boy View original post
    Comments 83 Comments
    1. iphone4idiots's Avatar
      iphone4idiots -
      Sorry mods for getting this thread going in this direction. I'm curious as to A.T's point. Most mods (if not all cause it is the rules) have a very strong stance against piracy. If I'm not mistaken Apple is in the process of trying to say jailbreaking is copyright infringement. From what little I've read the case is very grey, but say they do win in court and make it illegal is MMi gonna pull all stuff related to jailbreaking from the site???

      That would be a sad day.

      Cheers, and despite the fact that I have questionable ethical values I really do appreciate the help I've gotten on this site so far. So guys are super geeks - and that's a big compliment coming from an idiot wannabe!
    1. iMister's Avatar
      iMister -
      i don't think that there is one person with an iPhone/touch that hasn't used a hacked app at one point or another, Its human nature to want to know if you can get something for nothing, maybe it was deleted instantly? i don't know? but don't come on here taking the moral high ground...

      question need answering, would MMI still operate as it does today if Apple won their case?
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      ^^^ Of course not! If jailbreaking became illegal this site would most likely get shut down by the admins or Apple's legal staff. As it sits right now nothing we discuss on this site even comes remotely close to breaking the law so it's business as usual. If you wanna talk about stealing then go find somewhere else to hang out and post.
    1. soulthoughts's Avatar
      soulthoughts -
      Quote Originally Posted by operate View Post
      umm what?! why would they do this now?! ive bought a buncha apps that developers said they would offer free if they could if apple allowed in-app purchases, like TTR3, so basically apple just took extra money thruough this move...SMH, this is why the jailbreak/cracked app scene started in the first place, apple and thier double standards! theyre 2-faced ness, god! i could rage and rant about this so much!
      Actually I would argue that the cracked apps started because people were too cheap to pay for apps. That has nothing to do with apple. It's a personal choice.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Quote Originally Posted by iMister View Post
      But this site is all about modding your iPhone/moto which in its self is illegal! but we are not allowed to post links to cracked apps? smells like double standards to me.
      Don't be an idiot. Jailbreaking is legal at this time. It would get shut down by Apple if it was illegal. If people keep saying that jailbreaking is illegal, I am going to pay moderators to ban idiots who keep saying that.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Why pay when you can get something for free????
      That's how most of us think, no one thinks of using cracked apps as stealing. You modify Apples fimware, so I see no reason not to modify apps.

      There are quite a few sites that are related about cracked apps and so far only one of them has got shutdown, all others are still going. You just have to use the right servers and keep your identity hidden
    1. dale1v's Avatar
      dale1v -
      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      Why pay when you can get something for free????
      That's how most of us think, no one thinks of using cracked apps as stealing. You modify Apples fimware, so I see no reason not to modify apps.
      What? Taking something for free that should otherwise be paid for is stealing... Downloading a firmware file directly Apple for free is different.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Quote Originally Posted by dale1v View Post
      What? Taking something for free that should otherwise be paid for is stealing...
      Yeh but in the world of the internet, no one cares if they're stealing stuff online, no one thinks that way when they download stuff from internet.
    1. krk4201's Avatar
      krk4201 -
      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      Yeh but in the world of the internet, no one cares if they're stealing stuff online, no one thinks that way when they download stuff from internet.
      Speak for your self. not everyone shares the warped sense of entitlement that you and others posses.

      Customizing something that you rightfully own and possess if perfectly fine. Using something obtained with out proper compensation is theft.

      For example, if i download a movie or album, and i truely love it, ill go out and buy it, even if i already had it (hacked/pirated)
      You think that makes it right? What about the stuff you only sort of like or don't like at all. It isn't as good so you shouldn't have to pay for it.


      so the point is, there is a such thing as a moral thief.
      Whatever helps you sleep at night. Buying the product after you stole it does nothing to change the fact you are a thief. You still stole 4 programs with compensation only eventually being paid once.
    1. mk12's Avatar
      mk12 -
      I agree - an arrogant argument would be that software is just organized information, 1's and 0's, therefore its O.K. to steal it. It doesn't matter whether you can do it. Someone on the other end, whether a powerful company or a lone developer, is making a living out of their career, which happens to be software development.
      That's how most of us think, no one thinks of using cracked apps as stealing. You modify Apples fimware, so I see no reason not to modify apps.
      The difference is the applications cost money, and you're not paying it. Jailbreaking is not a workaround for getting Apple's firmwares without paying. The point is not about modifying it. We pay for apple's firmware if it costs money (iPod Touch 3.0), but it usually doesn't anyway. With pirated applications, you're taking, not just 'aquiring,' but taking it, without paying for it, e.g., what would obviously be known as stealing. Pirating/cracking is not 'getting it for free'. Its stealing.
      No matter what anyone says, piracy cannot be justified, and it usually ends up just making you look like an obnoxious jerk. Another lame excuse might be that they're not a criminal because everyone has passed the speed limit. I won't even go there…

      Why pay when you can get something for free????
      If that's your view on the world, I guess you can live without money. Steal the groceries, steal money to buy a house, steal everything. It is possible to get away with it. What would you think of someone with that lifestyle?

      Yeh but in the world of the internet, no one cares if they're stealing stuff online, no one thinks that way when they download stuff from internet.
      It doesn't matter how you think. I could think that murder is fine, maybe I don't think about it as actually killing somebody if they're poisoned. Does that make it OK? Would it make it OK if a few more people agreed with me?

      Anyone who pirates applications isn't welcome here.. If you want to be a thief go find somewhere where that is acceptable.
    1. se7endreams's Avatar
      se7endreams -
      i'm just curious, all the people here who are anti-cracked apps i have one question for you: do you download music for free? if you do, you're a hypocrite.
    1. mk12's Avatar
      mk12 -
      I don't, but it's not illegal in Canada anyway. But it wrong just as software piracy is wrong.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      I don't steal, I'm just saying, yeh I use cracked apps but I also buy the app if I like it and I do buy music, I buy CD's if I like the artist.
    1. mk12's Avatar
      mk12 -
      My post wasn't directly targeted at anyone, but anyway, if you do actually pay after, its still illegal. Not really stealing, or morally wrong, but still illegal, as long as you never keep something unless you pay for it. But obviously the law can't make an exception for if you just test it out and then buy it otherwise get rid of it... then the whole thing would be legal.

      As for trying out apps as a demo by using cracked versions, you do know that within 90 days of purchase you can get full refund from app store (the developer has to pay it all, even though apple made 30% of it), so do that if you realize an application is not worth it, don't pirate them.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Quote Originally Posted by mk12 View Post
      As for trying out apps as a demo by using cracked versions, you do know that within 90 days of purchase you can get full refund from app store (the developer has to pay it all, even though apple made 30% of it).
      Wrong! What you pay for in the App Store is final.
    1. mk12's Avatar
      mk12 -
      See this page on apple's refund policy.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Never mind then.

      Wait, hold on. The article you posted is from March. Then Apple's Term of Sale in the Refund policy says:

      All Sales and rentals (as applicable) are final.
      I am not sure, but you might be wrong. Correct if I am wrong, but iTunes Store Terms And Conditions is updated on Sept. 9th, 2009.
    1. ebl4287's Avatar
      ebl4287 -
      Then end is near for cracked apps
    1. mk12's Avatar
      mk12 -
      I wish, but I doubt it.
    1. hacker555's Avatar
      hacker555 -
      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      I don't steal, I'm just saying, yeh I use cracked apps but I also buy the app if I like it and I do buy music, I buy CD's if I like the artist.
      Exactly my point,

      for example if i had a stick from a tree in my back yard, and i started using it to play baseball with my friends, and then i sold it for 5 dollars. Heres what the difference is

      1) someone taking that stick without paying : Theft,stealing ,etc ( because now i cant sell my stick)

      2) Someone buying that stick, it cracked but i didnt tell you, you ask for a refund and i dont give it back: also theft, stealing,etc ( since you PAID for a working stick[app])

      3) Someone going home and getting a stick from their yard, and playing baseball with it: Piracy.

      You see ? i can still sell my stick , and if my stick was any better you would buy it instead of using yourown.

      now i know the example is stupid, and its a little off, but its the point, yes if u take something thats not yours without paying thats not right. but does it hurt anyone ? really i mean really hurt anyone if they dont loose anything. that you just somehow magically aquired it, no it doesnt.

      so now , once i do this if i were to go back and decide i like it enough to pay how would you know ???

      you wouldnt

      and that asswhipe is why its completely different.


      PLUS your all hipocrites since you all download music illegally , you all modify firmwares and post them, and you all download cydia apps that modify the iphone to do things it shouldn't ( aka Tethering)


      http://www.megaleecher.net/uploads/piracy-is-theft.jpg