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    [FACEPALM: The original story on thegrio.com appears to be based on outdated info from before the DMCA ruling. It then got picked up by WECT-TV, the Mac blogosphere, and - ouch - me. h/t @mrpauldurden via @MuscleNerd. Self-pwned, -PDA]

    Despite losing in court last year, Apple is still trying to crack down on jailbreakers and unlockers. This time, they're asking the US Copyright Office for help, using specious arguments about software piracy and copyright infringement. Though these arguments are not new, and had been rejected by federal regulators in last July's decision, it's clearly Apple's hope that if they complain loudly enough and frequently enough, eventually they'll either find a venue where they'll get a favorable ruling, or scare people away from making modifications to their own devices without Apple's sanction.

    The Librarian of Congress, who oversees the US Copyright Office, released new exemptions to the Digital Copyright Millennium Act last year which ruled that jailbreaking or unlocking an iPhone or any other device is not illegal. The ruling was clear and unambiguous, and even went so far as to state that there was "no basis for copyright law to assist Apple in protecting its restrictive business model." In a response almost childlike in its vindictiveness, Apple then released a statement vowing to void the warranty of jailbroken or unlocked devices, which is an action that is still permitted under the law, but seemingly aimed more at intimidating users than providing product support.

    Today - in an NBC news report that rather typically confuses jailbreaking, unlocking, and pirating - we're learning that Apple has directly approached the Copyright Office asking them to crack down on the practice of jailbreaking, saying in part that "current jailbreak technologies now in widespread use utilize unauthorized modifications to the copyrighted bootloader and operating system, resulting in the infringement of the copyrights in those programs." This gambit comes despite the fact that the Copyright Office explicitly stated in July that "while a copyright owner might try to restrict the programs that can be run on a particular operating system, copyright law is not the vehicle for imposition of such restrictions."

    Even if Apple fails once again to legally sanction users who want to modify the devices they have bought and paid for, the mere request itself may serve to dissuade developers for writing apps or tweaks for Cydia, fearing that they may be slapped with a copyright infringement lawsuit. It's difficult to see this as anything other than bullying behavior on Apple's part.

    Source: MacDailyNews
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Going After Jailbreakers Again started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 121 Comments
    1. tomlangford001's Avatar
      tomlangford001 -
      At the end of it your paying for an expencive device that is yours and you should be able to do what you want with it jus like making mods to your car
    1. thevmax's Avatar
      thevmax -
      Quote Originally Posted by sammy007451 View Post
      Good luck apple!
      Don't you mean BAD LUCK APPLE?!?
    1. magusxxx's Avatar
      magusxxx -
      This is like buying a textbook and being told, "No underlining, don't write in the margins, and only open it during class."
    1. ZipZapp's Avatar
      ZipZapp -
      Does anyone have any figures that show the percent of phones actually jailbroken?

      I think its low, so this action by Apple is a preservation of their perceived intellectual property.

      I think there will be a small impact to usage should you eventually not be able to jailbreak.

      Someone with figure, tell me I'm wrong...
    1. vedavis's Avatar
      vedavis -
      If AAPL will give Saurik, etal. hooks into the system, JB would cease. These legit developers are not planting malware into the phones; on the contrary, the tweaks and apps appear to be well tested. So it comes down greed.
    1. billmilo's Avatar
      billmilo -
      And the next big apple news is about Jobs taking a medical leave. God must be a jailbreaker
    1. iPod's Avatar
      iPod -
      Apple just needs to give it a rest. We pay $200+ for our iPhones and iPod touches, and they're acting like they still own them, and are trying to stop us from customization
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      For all here who keep telling me Suits are not going to happen, they have and will.

      Apple needs the Courts once and for all to tell them.... They are wrong

      The arrogance, Historical and Current of Apple is amazing.

      They put out a product for use as a Phone and Computing device, of course owners of such devices will use them as they see fit.

      As long as the device is used legally and the software is used legally, then the argument that Apple's OS is altered in anyway so that the owner may use legal programs is ridiculous. Programs that apple allow you to buy in the App store may alter the IOS in some way also, so Apple is telling us that its ok for what they control to do what ever but when the owner does something as an add on its not.

      Apple is greedy

      to them Jailbreaking=Loss profits

      Plain and simple and why the battle needs the Federal courts to finally rule.

      We need smart good lawyers on the JB side or this may turn out different and JB will be pirates...............

      I want Apple to succeed and think the Iphone is an awesome product, at the same time they need to evolve and listen to what customers want. We want jail breaking.
    1. ZipZapp's Avatar
      ZipZapp -
      You own the phone, but I believe only a license to use the operating system.
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      Apple just needs to give up, they still have no ground to stand on...
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by ZipZapp View Post
      You own the phone, but I believe only a license to use the operating system.
      You understand that if Apple wins they will use this in Mac OSX also, what makes you think they will just stop at IOS?

      You want more Apple control or any other like M$ in your life?

      This has much much bigger implications then JB

      Programs use Dll's and such in an Operating system and at times alter its behavior, Apple could make a case that any program not certified by them is not legally using the IOS or MAC OS lol you have to see the possibilities..............

      Is the sky falling? Probably not but I remember how everyone welcomed the changes in our freedoms after 9/11 and now complain about the super increased measures before a Flight, some do not want the Body scans too intrusive but "Anything to be safer" was the moto before, be careful of what you allow.
    1. RICO_'s Avatar
      RICO_ -
      Hmmm. I wonder how much money Apple is spending on their corporate lawyers trying over and over to get this ruling overturned when they could just leave it alone and save even more money to put towards more credible causes.

      Funny how quickly Apple jumps on matters pertaining to things they disapprove of, but when it comes to fixing their own defects and problems they just kick it to the curb and blame it on consumer error. Welcome to Corporate America.
    1. MSFLFC's Avatar
      MSFLFC -
      I don't think Apple WANTS to stop the jailbreaking and it's community knowing the revenue streams that lie therein.

      I think they're now producing a cacophony of noise to scare off too much development of jailbroken apps - thus ruining (some) income from their app store etc.

      I'm sure that IF they wanted a change in ruling they would lobby enough to get it. This creates attention which is good for the company. Keeps the kettle going.

      Anyways, if they succeed I will sign any petition against it/Apple and walk the protests and agitate for my digital choice of life.

      No free will or choice - no life.
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by MSFLFC View Post
      I don't think Apple WANTS to stop the jailbreaking and it's community knowing the revenue streams that lie therein.

      I think they're now producing a cacophony of noise to scare off too much development of jailbroken apps - thus ruining (some) income from their app store etc.

      I'm sure that IF they wanted a change in ruling they would lobby enough to get it. This creates attention which is good for the company. Keeps the kettle going.

      Anyways, if they succeed I will sign any petition against it/Apple and walk the protests and agitate for my digital choice of life.

      No free will or choice - no life.
      Why? Why would the evidence is clear they do want to stop it, they pay the lawyers 1000's to put forth any kind of work, so they spend this money for nothing? I think not, its not logical.

      Apple for years has been about control. They want to control their product.

      Control also equals money.

      JB is loss of profits

      It's here plain and simple:

      jailbreak technologies now in widespread use utilize unauthorized modifications to the copyrighted bootloader and operating system,
      If Apple can't control it then no one should have it
    1. trigun989's Avatar
      trigun989 -
      man apple never gives up. hope it was steve jobs idea to go after jailbreaking, since he wont be with us soon enough.
    1. bigboyz's Avatar
      bigboyz -
      LISTEN UP!! Without the JAILBREAK COMMUNITY, Apple would have 1/2 of the apps on their current roster. Apple looks at all of the jailbroken apps and either tweaks them or makes them better(except for multitasking) in some instances. Apple needs to stop crying about copyright infringement and all of that. What someone does with "their property" is there business...I paid my $199 and the phone is mine, the OS it is running is mine and i can make any changes that i like...Apple wants to treat us like dogs on a chain and tease us with tid bits that are generously placed just beyond our hungry reach....HOLLA :]
    1. Lokenall's Avatar
      Lokenall -
      I can see why Apple wants to stop jail-breaking for two reasons. 1) Pirated software. (If I enjoy the app, whether it's from the app store or Cydia, I'll buy it, no questions ask.) so, I do agree with this. 2) Apple wants total control over their products. This I don't agree with at all. So, I'm sure I'm not the only one who only bought the iPhone because it is jail-breakable. I had an android G1, but then I played around with the iPhone. I thought it was a cool device, but honestly could only certain authorized things on it. A friend of mine, who programs, showed me his jail-broken iPhone and that was it for me. Bought one. If, by some miracle, apple succeeds, I feel that a lot of users will jump ship. I know I will. Android is getting very good and some of the mods out there, are incredible. So, we'll see. Believe me though, if this regulation happens, hello android platform.
    1. Dr.Xanax's Avatar
      Dr.Xanax -
      Actually for most iPhone owners. The phone isn't ENTIRELY yours. Remember that you're getting a subsidized phone in exchange for a contract. So I think Apple can kind of say "Ok we gave these people the phone for much cheaper than retail but we expect them to respect that and listen to our wish"
    1. ssjbrolly's Avatar
      ssjbrolly -
      Good luck to apple if they are demanding that they won't give warranties on jailbroken devices, well you can shove that 1 year warranty up urs. My 2 cents
    1. MSFLFC's Avatar
      MSFLFC -
      The few bucks they spend to make this noise is a) pocket change, and b) will benefit the company in the other end so I just don't buy into that.

      What is logical is, that in America of today a major corporation like Apple would be able to lobby their way into such a decision if they really wanted it - I just don't believe they will. They just don't want to lose too much control of the app scene hence why I think they this bit of a noise.

      Don't forget, Apple used to be what they are "fighting" now.

      Control only equals money if in the form of total control (monopoly)
      which this isn't at all. They are seemingly making more money now than if there was no jailbreak community (and the limited features were still present). This would only have helped HTC/Google/Androids cause and strengthened their market position.

      The JB community in a way of looking at it helps Apple maintain dominance over their competitors whose phones are capable of a lot more than non-jailbroken iPhones at present.

      Just my opinion on this.
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