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  • AT&T 3.0 Firmware MMS and Tethering Details
    So we know that AT&T is going to be behind everyone else in allowing MMS and tethering once iPhone 3.0 firmware is released. The question is why. A BoyGenius report via one of their "AT&T Ninjas" fills in the supposed details.

    MMS
    The reason AT&T is going to be slow on getting MMS provisioned for iPhones is laughable. To prevent MMS from working properly on iPhones AT&T has added "Opt Out MMS codes" to iPhone accounts preventing MMS. Once the codes are taken off accounts MMS will work fine on the iPhone with 3.0 firmware at no additional cost -- it is included with the standard $20 SMS/data plan required for iPhones already. The catch is AT&T has to removed these Op Out MMS codes from every iPhone account manually. Hah.

    Tethering
    Tethering for AT&T is a different monster. The delay is reported to be completely intentional on AT&T's part and at the launch of iPhone firmware 3.0 tethering will be disabled entirely for AT&T customers. It will become an option at a later date as soon as AT&T has managed to cobble together na unlimited data tethering plan for the iPhone at expense of an additional $70/mo.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: AT&T 3.0 Firmware MMS and Tethering Details started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 87 Comments
    1. kkiran's Avatar
      kkiran -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      Now that AT&T has come with an official solution, be VERY VERY VERY CAREFUL of going around their way. Like I've said before, it's really really easy for AT&T to know if you're tethering and now that it's going to be making it money they're going to be keeping a closer eye on iPhone accounts.
      Well, from a programmer's standpoint : I can just setup an alert which automatically adds the tethering plan if I sense a spike in the number of different IP addresses the device is visiting in such short span given its limitations!! Not to mention the huge amount of data (7.2Mbps next year!!)...

      And oh, did I say this : they are not manually going to remove the MMS codes, just not practical to start with! A simple Python script should take care of it

      Hmmm, there is a way to download those without revealing too much about what you are downloading!

      If comcast followed suit, my service should have been alerted a million times for all song/movie downlaods to date!
    1. lshin037's Avatar
      lshin037 -
      Quote Originally Posted by kkiran View Post
      If comcast followed suit, my service should have been alerted a million times for all song/movie downlaods to date!

      True. But I just dont want to risk it. My neighborhood is locked to Charter so if I get my services turned off, I can't run to Comcast or any other provider for service.
    1. GMA's Iphoner's Avatar
      GMA's Iphoner -
      1. Export DB list to Excel.
      2. Sort spreadsheet by iPhoneUser? column and TetherAccount? column.
      3. Change all values in OptOutMMS to NO.
      4. Save As…
      5. Import to DB.

      According to my brother?? Could it be that easy? Anyone tired? I am about to do it, so if no one else has I will update...

      THX to all.
    1. vokal_guy's Avatar
      vokal_guy -
      Quote Originally Posted by GMA's Iphoner View Post
      1. Export DB list to Excel.
      2. Sort spreadsheet by iPhoneUser? column and TetherAccount? column.
      3. Change all values in OptOutMMS to NO.
      4. Save As…
      5. Import to DB.

      According to my brother?? Could it be that easy? Anyone tired? I am about to do it, so if no one else has I will update...

      THX to all.
      Say Whaaaaaaaaaaat? lol
    1. fletch33's Avatar
      fletch33 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      Now that AT&T has come with an official solution, be VERY VERY VERY CAREFUL of going around their way. Like I've said before, it's really really easy for AT&T to know if you're tethering and now that it's going to be making it money they're going to be keeping a closer eye on iPhone accounts.
      i dont think it is as easy as you think. not trying to argue but i have been with several carriers that offer tethering packages and have tethered around their packages with no problems.

      during this time i also read many many posts on various forums by people getting busted but never once did anyone post that they got busted and only checked their email and surfed the web here and there while at an airport or park etc...

      every single post i read the person was grabbing music, getting videos, basically downloading a bunch of stuff.

      i occasionally maybe more like rarely need to tether and when i do it is not to get a movie but to get on my email or ICQ for work. my iPhone can use a lot more data in a day than i would use in a month of tethering with my needs. i am usually near a wifi spot or the iphone can do whatever i need.

      i only bring this up because it is nothing new and i do not believe that using it on occasion can throw up a red flag as PDANet users on WM phones having been using it for a more than half a decade over many carriers and it is a search to find a post of someone that was punished or discovered and again even harder or impossible to find a smart user that was caught.

      just my 2 cents
    1. nrowensby's Avatar
      nrowensby -
      Quote Originally Posted by irajames1176 View Post
      I'm using the GM also, so how did you get the MMS icon on Messages? I downloaded an IPCC file and all I get is tethering?
      After loading the updated IPCC file, you need to go to Settings>Gerneral>Network>Cellular Data Network and enter MMS settings under the corresponding header.

      Here's a screenie of the setting that I'm using:
    1. Sirhc35's Avatar
      Sirhc35 -
      So if I signed a new contract with AT&T (transferring from T-Mobile) and got an iPhone on my account would it be reasonable to assume that MMS should work out of the box due to the fact the I wasn't an AT&T customer before the 3.0 upgrade so there was never a need to enable the "Opt Out MMS codes." Just wondering how it will work for brand new customers.
    1. nrowensby's Avatar
      nrowensby -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sirhc35 View Post
      So if I signed a new contract with AT&T (transferring from T-Mobile) and got an iPhone on my account would it be reasonable to assume that MMS should work out of the box due to the fact the I wasn't an AT&T customer before the 3.0 upgrade so there was never a need to enable the "Opt Out MMS codes." Just wondering how it will work for brand new customers.
      That would make sense, but it's probably best not to make assumptions when it comes to AT&T and their practices concerning the iPhone... lol
    1. fletch33's Avatar
      fletch33 -
      Quote Originally Posted by nrowensby View Post
      After loading the updated IPCC file, you need to go to Settings>Gerneral>Network>Cellular Data Network and enter MMS settings under the corresponding header.

      Here's a screenie of the setting that I'm using:

      i called ATT in the very beginning of 3.0 and had it turned on and my MMS worked for weeks then it stopped one day. my tethering has always worked but these settings did not get my MMS working again

      wish it was that easy
    1. stickyd8's Avatar
      stickyd8 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cash7c3 View Post
      So we know that AT&T is going to be behind everyone else in allowing MMS and tethering once iPhone 3.0 firmware is released. The question is why. A BoyGenius report via one of their "AT&T Ninjas" fills in the supposed details.

      MMS
      The reason AT&T is going to be slow on getting MMS provisioned for iPhones is laughable. To prevent MMS from working properly on iPhones AT&T has added "Opt Out MMS codes" to iPhone accounts preventing MMS. Once the codes are taken off accounts MMS will work fine on the iPhone with 3.0 firmware at no additional cost -- it is included with the standard $20 SMS/data plan required for iPhones already. The catch is AT&T has to removed these Op Out MMS codes from every iPhone account manually. Hah.

      Tethering
      Tethering for AT&T is a different monster. The delay is reported to be completely intentional on AT&T's part and at the launch of iPhone firmware 3.0 tethering will be disabled entirely for AT&T customers. It will become an option at a later date as soon as AT&T has managed to cobble together na unlimited data tethering plan for the iPhone at expense of an additional $70/mo.
      I just spent 40 minutes on the phone with AT&T. I told the lady I was a developer and had teh GSM release of 3.0 software, but needed the "opt out MMS" removed manually from my account to test the mms feature with my apps. She removed this, tried several software upgrades, gave me every possible authorization to send/receive mms, but it still doesn't work. I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm pissed! WTF AT&T!!!!
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by stickyd8 View Post
      I just spent 40 minutes on the phone with AT&T. I told the lady I was a developer and had teh GSM release of 3.0 software, but needed the "opt out MMS" removed manually from my account to test the mms feature with my apps. She removed this, tried several software upgrades, gave me every possible authorization to send/receive mms, but it still doesn't work. I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm pissed! WTF AT&T!!!!
      First off, why do people feel the need to quote entire long unrelated posts? Second, THINK. The firmware is not released yet and MMS has not worked for devs yet.. why would it now that apple has announced the release date? Their MMS servers are obviously not active or something, and standard ATT reps will not have the option to do whatever it is they need to do in their system until 3.0 is actually released.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by lshin037 View Post
      This is one of the disadvantages of having AT&T. When I had a Blackberry with Tmobile, tethering was free and unlimited. My brother who had the same blackberry but with AT&T, had to pay like $25 extra for tethering.
      That is TMO's only way to compete... much cheaper prices. Their coverage doesn;t compare to Verizon or ATT and neither does their user base.
    1. politicalslug's Avatar
      politicalslug -
      I just got off the phone with customer support and they were told they are not allowed to remove the "opt out" info on your account as it would violate Apple's policy. It has nothing to do with manually removing anything. LIES LIES LIES.
    1. stickyd's Avatar
      stickyd -
      Quote Originally Posted by reanimationxp View Post
      First off, why do people feel the need to quote entire long unrelated posts? Second, THINK. The firmware is not released yet and MMS has not worked for devs yet.. why would it now that apple has announced the release date? Their MMS servers are obviously not active or something, and standard ATT reps will not have the option to do whatever it is they need to do in their system until 3.0 is actually released.
      Okay, first of all Jackass, this is my first post on here, so excuse me for posted the story. Second, I just reset my iPhone and whatever the lady at AT&T did worked........so "OBVIOUSLY", you don't know what the hell you're talking about!!! Here's a pic to prove it!

      Attachment 316951
    1. Melech518's Avatar
      Melech518 -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      That is TMO's only way to compete... much cheaper prices. Their coverage doesn;t compare to Verizon or ATT and neither does their user base.
      I have found that the coverage with AT&T and T-Mobile are almost exactly the same. They share all the same towers. T-Mobile actually has a data plan for their customers on iPhones for $24.99/month. Everyone knows that AT&T is just raping all their customers with their pricing because they have an exclusive on the iPhone. To be honest, I do not know WTF you were trying to say in your response. I think you are a moron and should read what you type before posting in the future. There are other topics to discuss this issue, not here...
    1. fletch33's Avatar
      fletch33 -
      @stickyd

      you are correct. my MMS worked after i installed the first beta 3.0 and called ATT and had a tech remove my block or "opt-out". it did stop weeks later.

      just wanted to back you up
    1. sneakyzekey's Avatar
      sneakyzekey -
      i been able to do the teathering and mms for awhile too
    1. plnkeye21's Avatar
      plnkeye21 -
      Stupid question but will mms, tethering, and all the other features work on the 2g iPhone? What will/wont work on 3.0 for the 2g?
    1. A Retired Mod's Avatar
      A Retired Mod -
      My mms work's it must have been fixed at some point in time.
    1. Enigmafan420's Avatar
      Enigmafan420 -
      The blog posting states that SMS is a required $20 add on for the iPhone.

      This is categorically untrue. I have a family plan with 2 3Gs, two other lines, and text messaging blocked.

      The original iPhone included 200 text messages in its $20 data plan-perhaps this is what was meant.