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  • Apple and Verizon in Talks: CDMA iPhone in 2010?


    A deal is in the works for Verizon to carry a special CDMA version of the iPhone, according to an analyst. If the two companies can come to terms, the iPhone could be running on Verizon's 3G network by the middle of 2010, according to UBS Investment Research analyst Maynard J. Um.

    Apple has seen, in country after country where the iPhone is available on multiple carriers, a marked uptick in sales. However, in the largest market there is only one carrier, because Apple had made a long term agreement with AT&T. The original deal was reported to be for a five year term, though it's been widely rumored that the term was changed when the AT&T agreed to heavily subsidize the expensive iPhone 3G. Most observers believe that the arrangement will expire this year.

    Rumors and reports from cell phone chip manufacturers like Qualcomm have persistently suggested that a CDMA-capable version of the iPhone may come to market this year. Verizon's CEO also fed these rumors by saying his network "could handle" the iPhone. UBS indicates that Apple and Verizon are currently in negotiations. "We believe a CDMA-iPhone is also in the works," analyst Um wrote in a note to investors, as AppleInsider reports. "We believe Verizon Wireless and Apple may currently be apart on pricing."

    Verizon has been harshly critical of AT&T's 3G network in its "There's a Map for That" ad campaign, and poked fun at the iPhone in its ads for the Motorola Droid smartphone, This has led some observers to doubt that Apple would bring the iPhone to Verizon, which is also beginning to market Palm smartphones and Google's HTC-manufactured Nexus One.

    Many consumers have expressed disappointment with AT&T's network performance, and the company received the lowest rating of all major US carriers in a recent survey, while Verizon came in first. Also, the iPhone currently runs only on UMTS/GSM networks, and adding CDMA capability would allow the phone to be used on more systems worldwide. If the two companies can agree on pricing, a potentially enormous market could be opened up for the iPhone.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple and Verizon in Talks: CDMA iPhone in 2010? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 49 Comments
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by Melech518 View Post
      The whole hit man story that aired months prior was pertaining to a new device. The Verizon iPhone that was presented to me was a 3GS, not a 4th gen or any other "secret" model. It is no secret that electronic companies and cell companies send their devices to the networks to test their abilities on such networks. The customer I had said he worked for Verizon corporate and was doing consumer testing of the device on their network. He wouldnt tell me anything else, and I didnt really push him to it. Personally, it makes me sick to my stomach to think Verizon would get the iPhone. I would much rather see this phone go to T-Mobile.
      Right, I get that it wasn't a new phone. I'm saying that Apple is so secretive in all aspects of what it does, I can't see them giving it to some dude who was going to run his mouth about it.

      Seriously, how discreet are you being if you bring it to an "iphone hospital" and blab that its on Verizon?

      I know you can only tell us what he was saying so like I said, I don't think you're making it up. But I do think his story is suspicious and if it is true, Apple is gonna kill him and his entire family :P
    1. Melech518's Avatar
      Melech518 -
      I still think you are missing the point. There is no need for him to be secretive because this has nothing to do with Apple's secretiveness with new products. As far as networks go, I am willing to bet that every single network gets new devices from each manufacturer to test the device on their network. Apple does't go around "killing" potential carriers because they are not holding any trade secrets. These are the same mobile phones being used by the general public, only difference is this one in particular is being used on Verizons network here in the US. I can understand where you are coming from, but you have to realize there is a big difference between leaking a new device and carrier testing an existing device.
    1. RaginAsian55's Avatar
      RaginAsian55 -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      I love T-Mobile which is why I use my iPhone with FW3.12 RedSn0wed and officially unlocked with a nice custom bootlogo on T-Mobile as their 3G speeds are great
      Wait, are you actually using the 3GS on TMobiles 3G? I didn't think that was possible.... or are you just commenting that TMobile's 3G network in general is very good?
    1. Melech518's Avatar
      Melech518 -
      Quote Originally Posted by RaginAsian55 View Post
      +1

      I love TMobile! been with them since 2001 and had my whole family switched over. I use my 3GS on Edge which works great. It's not as fast as 3G, sure, but I'll Wifi to do all that heavy network stuff. If no wifi is available, then I'll just play games or watch a movie or listen to music. Isn't that the appeal of the iPhone in general?- there's so much you can do on one portable device?
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      I love T-Mobile which is why I use my iPhone with FW3.12 RedSn0wed and officially unlocked with a nice custom bootlogo on T-Mobile as their 3G speeds are great
      I love T-Mo, have had them since the VoiceStream days and have to say they have the best customer service around. Their network has been incredible for me in some places, but below par in others. Like all networks, their coverage areas differ. For me where I am and where I travel most, which are Florida, New York, North Carolina, and California, I always have incredible service. I hate the EDGE speeds however and would do almost anything for 3G on my iPhone. But for now, the price is right, the service is right, and I cannot complain

      Quote Originally Posted by RaginAsian55 View Post
      Wait, are you actually using the 3GS on TMobiles 3G? I didn't think that was possible.... or are you just commenting that TMobile's 3G network in general is very good?
      He is in the UK. And yes, he is. It is supported in the UK
    1. staterunner180's Avatar
      staterunner180 -
      I think it would be extremely ridiculous of Apple to refused a deal with Verizon just back of a hurt pride from the Droid commercials. And even though I'm extremely hopeful that this deal goes through, I'm getting tired of the back and forth as well, seriously Apple, just put your tail between your legs like we've seen you do before and go with it.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by RaginAsian55 View Post
      Wait, are you actually using the 3GS on TMobiles 3G? I didn't think that was possible.... or are you just commenting that TMobile's 3G network in general is very good?
      He isn't with TMobile USA.
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      I think it would be great if T-Mobile got the iPhone! They may not be the best with service coverage or 3G, but that can be changed. I love my iPhone on their network, everything works great.
    1. bbplayer5's Avatar
      bbplayer5 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Riviera View Post
      I hope Verizon gets the iPhone, so those who have been whining about AT&T network quality can switch right away. In that case, AT&T network won't be overloaded anymore, no more drop calls, faster 3G, data/call plans will also be cheaper and bla bla bla ....

      Also I'd like to see how well Verizon 1.4 Mbit 3G EVDO network handles iPhone data traffic. From a recent survey, AT&T 3.2 Mbit network is waaayyy faster than Verizon. Oh ... don't forget the upcoming AT&T 7.4 Mbit enhanced UMTS data service and how about also the upcoming AT&T Wifi hotspots which iPhone users can seamlessly login for free when they are within range.

      I wonder what Verizon would do to keep up with AT&T?
      Thats funny, I get over 2mbs on speed tests app. Rev A is 3.4 mbs. I get 800k tops on the 3Gs.

      Verizon > ATT
    1. starjar's Avatar
      starjar -
      Pretty soon other carrier will do the same.