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  • Mozilla Heats Up The Mobile App Market And Claims It Will Put An End To App Stores


    It comes to no surprise when we hear about a Firefox Mobile app in development for various smartphones. Mozilla managed to convert an outstanding number of IE users over to their platform and get close to an average increase of 10 million users a day lately.

    Firefox Mobile (currently codenamed Fennec) will share much of the desktop's engine and render both complex HTML and JavaScript. Mozilla VP Jay Sullivan made the bold claim that Firefox Mobile will "put an end to app stores like the iPhone's App Store or BlackBerry App World." These guys are either extremely over confident, or have no idea how well the App Store is doing right now. But nonetheless, as we learn the logic of web apps, it would make more sense for companies to create a singe web app that works just as well for Firefox Mobile, so it works across various phone platforms guaranteed.

    Many of the existing stores have draconian or inconsistent guidelines, or aren't worth the cost of producing a separate version to reach a smaller user base, Sullivan argues...

    "We look at the problems it creates for small innovators," he said. "You have to create an iPhone app, an Android app, a Windows Mobile app..."

    "As developers get more frustrated with quality assurance, the amount of handsets they have to buy, whether their security updates will get past the iPhone approval process... I think they'll move to the web," he explains.
    Mozilla will be releasing the first version of Firefox Mobile on the Nokia's N900 handset, and is being developed for virtually every smartphone platform that encourages a more unrestricted app environment, including Android, Nokia's Maemo, Symbian and Windows Mobile but will of course be entirely unavailable on the iPhone, as we are all well aware of Apple's submission rules that refuse to accept most code interpreters and 3rd web browsers.

    In the interim period, apps will be very successful. Over time, the web will win because it always does
    All of this being said, I don't see how it would have any immediate affect on the AppStore market, as these platforms don't just grow overnight. And they've got a lot to compete with for apple. However this does extend a new market to platforms that are more universal. Hopefully Apple get's with it and starts to allow a more open platform like we've slowly seen lately.

    However such features as syncing browsers with your phone and PC is genius, and starts to take us down a road that just might overpower such markets as the Apple AppStore.

    "We will sync browser tabs in real time," Sullivan adds. "If you have five, 10, 20 tabs open on your PC and something happens and you have to leave, you can pick up where you left off on your phone."

    Firefox Mobile will also support browser add-ons. "Some are existing add-ons for the PC, some are brand new," Sullivan claims.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Mozilla Heats Up The Mobile App Market And Claims It Will Put An End To App Stores started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 53 Comments
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      I don't see the advantage of having Firefox on my Touch. It's my primary browser, and I love it, but are a couple new features enough to get all worried about not having it?

      Actually, there's one thing I can think of that would make it worth it: if it had cache managment. I hate, HATE the fact that the iPhone doesn't seem to cache many websites I'm looking at, forcing you to reload the page in its entirety, which wastes cpu cycles and drains the battery.

      I don't even put music on my iTouch anymore, it's my handy palm computer for internet and programs, I should at least be able to tell it to cache a certain amount of drive-space for visited websites.

      I don't even know if that could be fixed with just a browser, or what. But I want it.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Firefox is going to be better than Safari, but it will not overpower the App Store.
    1. ecd5000's Avatar
      ecd5000 -
      jailbreak version would be sweet but aint gonna happen
    1. Melech518's Avatar
      Melech518 -
      Mozilla is way over confident and talking out of their arse
    1. MexiChriS's Avatar
      MexiChriS -
      Idc of there trying to compete with the Appstore what I care more about is seeing Firefox come to the iPhone already! Stupid *** Apple policy & rules man:/
      they should just develop one & release under Cydia's support. Don't know why major companies stuck in a rut by Apple hasn't gone around the backdoor & done that!

      - MexiChriS
    1. adrian1480's Avatar
      adrian1480 -
      Quote Originally Posted by brianlg View Post
      Firefox is completely overrated. Safari is my favorite browser there is. I'd even take Opera over firefox. That said, I wouldn't mind trying the iPhone version just to see the difference as mobile Safari hasn't really been updated.
      lol, Firefox is overrated?

      plug-ins. try some.
    1. brianlg's Avatar
      brianlg -
      Quote Originally Posted by adrian1480 View Post
      lol, Firefox is overrated?

      plug-ins. try some.
      The plug ins are nice.. but I just prefer the simplicity of safari. Not a big deal, everyone has preferences.
    1. Peemcgee's Avatar
      Peemcgee -
      Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDan View Post
      But the real question is... will it run Flash?

      That's about the only thing I feel the iPhone is really missing these days.
      i agree
    1. dmt123's Avatar
      dmt123 -
      All the "Anti-Apple" people on this forum make me laugh. Good job being completely hypocritical, you rant about how you hate Apple yet you still purchase their products, stfu, please.

      On topic, I see this Mozilla web app attempt failing completely and not even putting a dent on the App Store's sales, specially with the way things have gone for Apple so far. They already have a large enough customer base for the iPhone that something like this won't have any effect on their sales.
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      ive never personally used firefox, but itll be interesting to see how this will all play out on the mobile market.
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      I think they are missing the point of mobile. I do not want 10-20 tabs opening up on my mobile phone, not to mention add ons that cripple or make it unstable to use. The hardware isn't there yet for this to work seamlessly. I have seen the N900 and while the hardware is impressive the performance left a lot to be desired in my view. I use Firefox on my Windows machine with four add on extensions and it is still unstable (crashing at least once a week now).

      Mobile is still about getting things to work quickly and efficiently. In my mind native apps are far superior to web apps in what they can accomplish with minimal effort. Now PC and laptops are a different story.
    1. bengo's Avatar
      bengo -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      I think they are missing the point of mobile. I do not want 10-20 tabs opening up on my mobile phone, not to mention add ons that cripple or make it unstable to use. The hardware isn't there yet for this to work seamlessly. I have seen the N900 and while the hardware is impressive the performance left a lot to be desired in my view. I use Firefox on my Windows machine with four add on extensions and it is still unstable (crashing at least once a week now).

      Mobile is still about getting things to work quickly and efficiently. In my mind native apps are far superior to web apps in what they can accomplish with minimal effort. Now PC and laptops are a different story.
      I'm using FF on Windows 7 64Bit with 16 tabs open. Get a better rig IMO if it crashes that often.

      And Mozilla won't directly affect the Apple AppStore since it won't be available on the iPhone and iTouch.
    1. ryan0926's Avatar
      ryan0926 -
      I want chrome on iPhone


      I can dream can't I?
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      Quote Originally Posted by bengo View Post
      I'm using FF on Windows 7 64Bit with 16 tabs open. Get a better rig IMO if it crashes that often.

      And Mozilla won't directly affect the Apple AppStore since it won't be available on the iPhone and iTouch.
      Hardware has nothing to do with it.

      Intel Core 2 Quad Processor, 8 GB system memory

      With just FF running and little more than two to three tabs open at one time, it is all FF.
    1. politicalslug's Avatar
      politicalslug -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      Hardware has nothing to do with it.

      Intel Core 2 Quad Processor, 8 GB system memory

      With just FF running and little more than two to three tabs open at one time, it is all FF.
      Then why are you not using a different browser? Only four extensions? Are they firefox only or are you ******** for the sake of ********? Even IE doesn't just randomly crash. Must be your fault.
    1. bengo's Avatar
      bengo -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      Hardware has nothing to do with it.

      Intel Core 2 Quad Processor, 8 GB system memory

      With just FF running and little more than two to three tabs open at one time, it is all FF.
      Then it's your addons crashing the browser. I only use NoScript.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Firefox is sweet, just switched to it 2 days ago, Safari is overated. The Nokia N900 is also going to be sweet, Apple really need to update the iPhone or bring out 3.2 at least. Where the hell is 3.2?!?!?!?!? Don't want to give up the 3GS but the N900 is too tempting
    1. domenicp's Avatar
      domenicp -
      While there are some real advantages to web apps, they will never measure up to a native app. That's why people started jailbreaking their phones when the iphone first came out. All the cool native apps.
    1. chemalito's Avatar
      chemalito -
      Its about time Mozilla makes that move, Ive been waiting for it since I have my 3g a year ago. Im with Mozilla in this one too.
    1. masterp0606's Avatar
      masterp0606 -
      I love FireFox but it taking out the app store is just a stupid statement.Even if apple thought it could put a dent in the app store they would never allow it.