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  • Mozilla Heats Up The Mobile App Market And Claims It Will Put An End To App Stores


    It comes to no surprise when we hear about a Firefox Mobile app in development for various smartphones. Mozilla managed to convert an outstanding number of IE users over to their platform and get close to an average increase of 10 million users a day lately.

    Firefox Mobile (currently codenamed Fennec) will share much of the desktop's engine and render both complex HTML and JavaScript. Mozilla VP Jay Sullivan made the bold claim that Firefox Mobile will "put an end to app stores like the iPhone's App Store or BlackBerry App World." These guys are either extremely over confident, or have no idea how well the App Store is doing right now. But nonetheless, as we learn the logic of web apps, it would make more sense for companies to create a singe web app that works just as well for Firefox Mobile, so it works across various phone platforms guaranteed.

    Originally Posted by :
    Many of the existing stores have draconian or inconsistent guidelines, or aren't worth the cost of producing a separate version to reach a smaller user base, Sullivan argues...

    "We look at the problems it creates for small innovators," he said. "You have to create an iPhone app, an Android app, a Windows Mobile app..."

    "As developers get more frustrated with quality assurance, the amount of handsets they have to buy, whether their security updates will get past the iPhone approval process... I think they'll move to the web," he explains.
    Mozilla will be releasing the first version of Firefox Mobile on the Nokia's N900 handset, and is being developed for virtually every smartphone platform that encourages a more unrestricted app environment, including Android, Nokia's Maemo, Symbian and Windows Mobile but will of course be entirely unavailable on the iPhone, as we are all well aware of Apple's submission rules that refuse to accept most code interpreters and 3rd web browsers.

    Originally Posted by :
    In the interim period, apps will be very successful. Over time, the web will win because it always does
    All of this being said, I don't see how it would have any immediate affect on the AppStore market, as these platforms don't just grow overnight. And they've got a lot to compete with for apple. However this does extend a new market to platforms that are more universal. Hopefully Apple get's with it and starts to allow a more open platform like we've slowly seen lately.

    However such features as syncing browsers with your phone and PC is genius, and starts to take us down a road that just might overpower such markets as the Apple AppStore.

    Originally Posted by :
    "We will sync browser tabs in real time," Sullivan adds. "If you have five, 10, 20 tabs open on your PC and something happens and you have to leave, you can pick up where you left off on your phone."

    Firefox Mobile will also support browser add-ons. "Some are existing add-ons for the PC, some are brand new," Sullivan claims.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Mozilla Heats Up The Mobile App Market And Claims It Will Put An End To App Stores started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 53 Comments
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      Hardware has nothing to do with it.

      Intel Core 2 Quad Processor, 8 GB system memory

      With just FF running and little more than two to three tabs open at one time, it is all FF.
      I use FF on an old laptop with half a dozen addons and regularly have between 10 and 20 tabs open. I can't remember the last time it crashed. I'd check your addons,

      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      Firefox is sweet, just switched to it 2 days ago, Safari is overated. The Nokia N900 is also going to be sweet, Apple really need to update the iPhone or bring out 3.2 at least. Where the hell is 3.2?!?!?!?!? Don't want to give up the 3GS but the N900 is too tempting
      According to the reviews the N900 is nearly as good as the 3GS but with an immature OS, it's bulky and has a keyboard. If that's what you want then an iPhone is not for you.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      If you like Chrome, fine. One day it might be as good as FF but until that day I'll continue to use FF thank you.
    1. elite_jounin's Avatar
      elite_jounin -
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Screw Safari and FF. Chrome wins on desktop of course.

      I agree, Chrome is by far the best browser I've ever used on PC or Mac. Wish it was coming to iphone though...
    1. SvP2007's Avatar
      SvP2007 -
      I only hear "likes" and no arguments (ff has plugins, ok.. opera is good, safari on mac owns all but maybe chrome.. it's just preferences.

      ie suchs; that we know, and it's the most used browser. So, it doesn't seem to matter much wich is best, does it?

      I think shouting out like this doesnt really help, mozilla needs to show it.
    1. sauri's Avatar
      sauri -
      Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDan View Post
      But the real question is... will it run Flash?

      That's about the only thing I feel the iPhone is really missing these days.
      Sure it won't. Firefox Mobile app itself must be accepted to the AppStore to get onto your iPhone so it can't contain or support anything Apple doesn't like. A full Flash support would mean a slow death for the appstore (or at least a huge drop in sales and apps amount), because flash devs would instantly flood the market with their apps (relieved from of any apple-imposed restrictions), without any need for approvements, licenses and fees.

      Of course they could spread Firefox Mobile through Cydia, but it won't become a mass product that way.
    1. DrMod's Avatar
      DrMod -
      Of course they could spread Firefox Mobile through Cydia, but it won't become a mass product that way.
      Better that than nothing at all????

      Of course, this only applies to iphone, not other non apple devices, which could prove good for competitors of the iphone.

      I really cant see this being approved by Apple... although I thought that of Spotify!!!
    1. puddinfudge's Avatar
      puddinfudge -
      I don't really care I want to know if that firefox is making games for their app store or if other IT guys re making them.
    1. Forphucsake's Avatar
      Forphucsake -
      Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDan View Post
      But the real question is... will it run Flash?

      That's about the only thing I feel the iPhone is really missing these days.
      Quote Originally Posted by Teoyaomqui View Post
      Cool if this happens, Bye bye iPhone for me.

      I only like it because you can have an actual browser and not some cheap #$% "web browser"

      The Mozilla-based browser that comes standard with the N900 already has Flash support for a proper web experience so my guess would be that this would as well. Why step backwards?



      And for all those sayng the app store won't accept it, it was written in the OP post..

      Mozilla will be releasing the first version of Firefox Mobile on the Nokia's N900 handset, and is being developed for virtually every smartphone platform that encourages a more unrestricted app environment, including Android, Nokia's Maemo, Symbian and Windows Mobile but will of course be entirely unavailable on the iPhone
    1. anthony0perez's Avatar
      anthony0perez -
      First off "the only thing that needs to be fix on the Iphone" Umm Where the F is the bluetooth stacks that all other major phones have and also no file transfer of music to other pods. The wifi goes out randomly, I have to shut off my phone on a daily bases. There is no App to App functions or multi App run functions. I'm disappointed in the iphone to tell you the truth but to have firefox on it would make it that much better. And if your so into the safari then why is 80% or so people using firefox. Well the only reason I like the iphone right now is for the looks - it's not a biz-phone at all and the blackberry is ugly. Windows has no clue what they are doing in the mobile market. I think the Droid will kill the Iphone in short time as it just came out (in functionality) go play with one of those I bet you change you mind about the Iphone. Apple needs to take the stick outta there butt before they lose a good thing AGAIN.
    1. mofolo's Avatar
      mofolo -
      Quote Originally Posted by anthony0perez View Post
      First off "the only thing that needs to be fix on the Iphone" Umm Where the F is the bluetooth stacks....
      Apple Reps don't read your posts...

      Apple - Support - Suggestions

      Stand in line with the rest of us.
    1. HR19's Avatar
      HR19 -
      Quote Originally Posted by L00i3 View Post
      I really hate apple. Anti-competitive a-holes.
      Because that SO doesn't describe practically EVERY big business...lol.

      I agree. But also, Steve Jobs is about as cocky and delusional as the emperor-/king-person in 300 with the huge armies. He merely applies it to technology and his business practices.

      FireFox is overrated. Yes, it's good, but I always preferred IE. I still think it's good, but the real thing is this: what do you prefer? On my computer, I like Chrome. It's very minimal, with just a few buttons and the Omni-Bar. It also has each tab in a separate process, which means that one messed up tab doesn't crash the whole browser, which is great for me. And lately I've done a TON of JavaScript, and IE has a built in thing for telling me, "Hey, there's an Error in your JavaScript here," which I find lacking on FireFox. I tried FireBug for FF, but I had a hard time making sense of it. With IE, I could just view the errors, and it would tell me what line it's in, and it's just really easy. I haven't found a single feature in FireFox that is not also available in IE or Chrome that I care about.
    1. dale2's Avatar
      dale2 -
      I even have a theme that makes safari look like firefox. I would love it if they put this on cydia. I own a mac and still prefer to use firefox on it, I'm not into simple interface... but then why do I like ipods and iphones? lol