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  • Jailbreakers to Apple: “This is only the beginning...”


    There are 100 million iDevice users in the world. The U.S. Copyright Office Monday had a huge ruling for the jailbreak community, and in fact all iDevice users and developers - officially declaring jailbreak legal. Of course - there's still work to be done. Monday's ruling was a solid first step, but the road to an open mobile app market has some asphalt left to traverse.

    The mobile app market is dominated by the iPhone. The Android market is estimated to do only 10% of the App Store's 2010 income. There are a few smatterings of mobile app stores (huh? what's a Pre?), but nothing coming close to Apple's share and position. If you want innovative, easy to use, cool apps - you need an iPhone. It's where the talent has set up shop.

    Here's the thing - Monday says jailbreaking is legal. But with each firmware Apple breaks the jailbreak solution, erases jailbreakers' installed apps, and makes it more difficult to jailbreak the next firmware. New hardware checks in the iPhone 3G[S] and iPhone 4 are great examples of this continued anti-competitive behavior. Now - the jailbreak is obviously exploiting a security hole, so Apple is within their rights (and arguably within their RESPONSIBILITY) to patch these holes. The ultimate goal? No need for a jailbreak - being able to, say, install Cydia or Rock simply by dragging it into iTunes.

    Rock Your Phone, an independent iPhone App Store which markets apps to jailbreakers (you're familiar), has already begun the next step in our shared battle to stop Apple from restricting access to independent apps for all iPhone consumers. This week, Rock Your Phone’s President, Mario Ciabarra, and its Chief Legal Officer, Joshua Horenstein, took the cause of the independent iPhone community to the U.S. Congress with Public Knowledge, a national public interest organization dedicated to providing open and free access in the communication and technology industries. The Rock Your Phone and Public Knowledge team spent this week meeting with the offices of over a dozen Congressional leaders, including those from the Commerce committees in both the House and the Senate, to educate them about Apple’s harmful anti-jailbreak activities in the mobile application marketplace.

    Ciabarra and Horenstein spent a (very) full week meeting with these key Congressional staff members, explaining and describing Apple’s current monopoly in the mobile application market place and its harmful effects on consumers and small businesses. I chatted with Ciabarra while he was there, and he was impressed with the responses. “U.S. leaders have been open to learning more about this rapidly growing sector of the economy and the actions of Apple to control this sector,” he said. These guys also emphasized another point - because the mobile application market has grown to such as significant size in the last two years (over $1.3 billion in sales) and because Apple, a single monopolistic entity, clearly dominates and controls this market to the detriment of large and small businesses, this is now ripe for oversight and review by Congress and the U.S. government.

    The major issue is Apple is 100% in control of this market. Ciabarra makes a good point to Congress - "giving a single entity control of what succeeds in an entire industry just does not make sense. Apple is using their monopoly to control content and technology in the app market industry and is harming consumers, small businesses like ours, and big businesses such as Mozilla, Skype, Google, and Adobe.” Rock Your Phone and the Public Knowledge team petitioned Congressional leaders for Congressional hearings attended by all interested parties to review and analyze the mobile application marketplace and Apple’s restrictions on the iPhone platform. “We’ve seen this before in the 1990’s with Microsoft. Monopoly power is not a bad thing, but when it is used to lock out competition to detriment of consumers and small businesses, we need government action to create and preserve a free and competitive marketplace. Only under these circumstances can the market ensure prices which reflect true costs, and also ensure that consumers make efficient economic choices regarding which technology and content satisfies their needs.”

    In other words - it's my pocket computer. Let me install what I want, and stop deleting it with every update.

    You can check out the full presentation the Rock Your Phone crew made to the various Congressional offices here.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Jailbreakers to Apple: “This is only the beginning...” started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 135 Comments
    1. jOnGarrett's Avatar
      jOnGarrett -
      great article., 100 million consumers vs Apple should be an easy win for consumers.
    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      Quote Originally Posted by quidam_brujah View Post
      Wow. I didn't think i would find a Rand-head here. I always find you guys so amusing. This perfect world you guys always speak of doesn't, can't, and won't exist for the same reason that the perfect communist state won't succeed either: the human element. As long as humans are a vital component, neither system will succeed as designed.
      I agree. The human element of looting, crying, ********, wanting something for nothing.

      Quote Originally Posted by quidam_brujah View Post
      I do find your quote about how a monopoly could not exist without government assistance interesting, considering Apple is doing exactly what they shouldn't be able to do... Where's the government assistance?
      Government/Courts. Were on the way.

      Bottom line still comes down to, dont buy it if you dont like it. Vote with your wallet. It is a phone, not water, food, medicine.

      oh, and they were not my quotes, i referenced them
    1. mikerlx's Avatar
      mikerlx -
      Apple will simply unlock the iphones (like they do outside USA) and sell it unlocked either way. Its a slam dunk for apple and no big deal. Apple has nothing to do with cydia. Most people only care about the unlock anyway.
    1. santacruzlocal's Avatar
      santacruzlocal -
      Quote Originally Posted by BboyAirrick View Post
      Sweeet.....cydia on the app store? Awesome possum!
      Did you actually read the article? Or are you just throwing something out there?
    1. J_Marley's Avatar
      J_Marley -
      Okay, I have to congratulate Rock for taking the initiative on this, but I think it needs to be pointed out that Apple, while having the largest app store and market share in this, is by no means a monopolistic holder. If we think about this, app isn't even the first one to come up with an App Market, just the one that really ran with it. I work for a cellular provider and we offer different applications and games through our service for all devices and since they are our devices, we pick and choose which ones we offer to our customers. So how is this any different from what Apple is doing besides the fact that they are the creators of the product?

      Let's look at this from a differet angle. If I were to like Garmin's look and style of gps but wanted Magellan's gps maps, should I demand that the Garmin allow me to put on the other maps?

      Don't get me wrong, I am all for jailbreaking, but are we really to expect Apple to just allow us to do whatever we want to the device without consequence? Maybe if they just put a disclaimer stating that any modification to the device or the software/programs installed on the device not authorized by Apple will void any warranty or end user agreement and therefore be solely the responsibility of the owner if any damage should occur. I think that would be a fair trade for what we would like to see happen in the future. Apple is then covered from a legal standpoint from dealing with any outfall from a problem and we still get to do what we would like. Just a thought...
    1. tecpunk64's Avatar
      tecpunk64 -
      Quote Originally Posted by LxNos7 View Post
      i think jailbreaking has become mainstream. it can be a good and or bad thing. :/
      funny, i have that same feeling
    1. anouar28's Avatar
      anouar28 -
      Hi,
      good news for JB lovers, I'm only satisfide and trained (INDIRECTLY) by GH, SJ, BB and other comunities more experiences than Apple (in my opinion) and they (Apple) should keep people independently using their Iphone......... & the history continue
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      From Twitter today:

      comex

      If he is really redirecting ads for a competitor to his own app, there is no way I'm ever installing Rock by default in a jailbreak.
      comex

    1. cman1162's Avatar
      cman1162 -
      Thank goodness. It's about freekin time.
    1. stoleado22's Avatar
      stoleado22 -
      I'm glad somebody took action upon Apple's monopoly.

      Now let's show APPLE that:

      "Who Rocks Last Rocks Better At The End"


      Best regards!!!
    1. jonkiley's Avatar
      jonkiley -
      Thank you Rock Your Phone for all the hard work your doing to free our PERSONAL devices. Apple has a lot of nerve trying to dictate to us how to use our own personal property. It's very un-American and it's time someone put a stop to their dictatorship ways. Please don't stop till they are stopped! Thanks again! You guys ROCK MY PHONE!!!
    1. bonnie_scotsman's Avatar
      bonnie_scotsman -
      Now that jailbreaking is thankful now legal why don't the guys at Cydia write there own operating system for the iPhone buy studying the hardware used then all us iPhone users would not need apple software at all.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Because that's not what they do or want. You can install Android on the iPhone thanks to a member of the Dev Team but without iOS it's no longer an iPhone.
    1. NightwingO's Avatar
      NightwingO -
      It is my phone, I bought it with my money so therefore I can do anything with it. It simple as that...
    1. Gr0undBreak1ng's Avatar
      Gr0undBreak1ng -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chase817 View Post
      I barely even care about jailbreaking anymore. With all the noobs around, it is just a click of a button. Most of them don't even call it jailbreaking, they call it free apps. I jailbroke the original iPhone back when I was on 1.0.2. I loved it then, because it was a way to make my phone unique, and different. Now these idiots go and download a tiny program where you click a button and they are suddenly 1337 h.axx0rz. I have basically lost all interest in jailbreaking now, with the exception of a few little things. My iPhone 4 is stock, and I don't feel like slowing it down, and screwing it up with jailbreaking. Sure, in the future I might jailbreak once again, just to have people run up to me and ask if I have free apps, but all I want it for is openSSH. (Which, by the way, every noob jailbreaker I ask has no idea what it is or why you would want it.)
      Nowadays I just use my iPod and iDevices for their true purpose. I only write and develop jailbreaks. Using jailbreaks has lost my interest sadly.