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  • Apple Gets Sued by St. Clair: "Infringes" on Four Ridiculous Digital Camera Patents


    It appears that nothing changes over at Apple Legal. Yet again they are being sued, this time by a company called St. Clair Intellectual Property Consultants. They claim that Apple's iPhone infringes on four digital camera patents that the company holds. The four include the 459, 219, 010 and 899 patents.

    459: Take image contained within lens and store in some type of memory.
    219: Display the picture that will be taken in some type of display window.
    010: Push button in order to capture image.
    899: Make images contained within some type of memory and make them viewable in some sort of digital camera roll.
    While I am no legal expert, these patents sound utterly stupid to me. I mean, isn't this what every digital camera does. What I don't understand is how these even become patents in the first place. You'd think that something like this could be used against any number of digital photography products.

    It appears St. Clair has been playing this game of patent infringement lawsuit for quite some time. In 2001, it sued Sony for infringing these same patents and won a $25 million judgement against the company. In 2003, it sued Canon and was awarded $34 million in damages. This just absolutely blows my mind. Not only are they playing this ridiculous game, they are actually winning! WTF!?

    Since they've decided to play this game, St. Clair has filed suit against every major camera maker in the entire world including Fuji, Minolta, Kyocera, Nikon, Casio and Olympus. It also filed lawsuits against Samsung, Nokia, Panasonic, LG, Kodak, HP, Motorola, RIM and Palm, and the list goes on.

    I don't know about you, but I'm getting really tired of this crap. This company can't even make it on it's own without stabbing every single company in the back and taking their moola.


    Here is a list of St Clair Intellectual Property - Justia Federal District Court Filings and Dockets



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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Gets Sued Yet Again: Infringing Four Digital Camera Patents started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 49 Comments
    1. Ichwohneinloche's Avatar
      Ichwohneinloche -
      I'm going to start patenting sex positions and suing porn companies
    1. SIRIUSISSUES's Avatar
      SIRIUSISSUES -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ichwohneinloche View Post
      I'm going to start patenting sex positions and suing porn companies
      What a good fuc*ing idea. Literally. lol
    1. Ichwohneinloche's Avatar
      Ichwohneinloche -
      Quote Originally Posted by SIRIUSISSUES View Post
      What a good fuc*ing idea. Literally. lol
      I know right?
    1. romeo_herman's Avatar
      romeo_herman -
      I hope they sue, nikon, canon, nokia, sonyericcson,sanyo,panasonic, blacberry,.. etc...etc...
      so the lawyer can get more job.....
    1. fuzzyshubert's Avatar
      fuzzyshubert -
      I guess I don't see what is wrong. They filed for these patents a long time ago, they were awarded them, and now want to enforce them. So they are ***holes because other people violated their patents? So it is okay to enforce your patent if one company violates it, but not alright if lots of people violate it? I could sue if one robber breaks into my house and steals my stuff, but if a gang does it, I have no right to?
    1. dhamien's Avatar
      dhamien -
      It's not April 1st, so what's with this story? It doesn't make sense and I find it very hard to believe. You can't patent an idea. You can patent some technology saving an image but you can't patent the idea of saving an image.
    1. ecd5000's Avatar
      ecd5000 -
      if they hold patents on pretty much everything a digital camera does, how come ive never seen a camera from them?, everything else on that list ive seen before target walmart and so on, but no st. clair. this has to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard and how are they winning, and why are they getting paid so much? you would think that the judge would just look at the previous cases and say oh well you already got about 60 mill and throw it out
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      This is understandable if St. Clair can somehow prove that they were the originators of the idea AND got the patent drawn up before anyone else did.
    1. gepalex's Avatar
      gepalex -
      I'm suing them cos i own the patents to suing!!
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      yeah theyre out of control on this
    1. Jonbillsee's Avatar
      Jonbillsee -
      WOW! This article and the majority of comments under this thread are extremely ignorant of the patent system. As evidenced by the large awards that were granted to the patent holder, these patents were held valid, and as such, the infringers must pay damages under the law. Since the first of these patents issued in 1992--long before the digital camera boom--it appears as though the inventors on these patents were pioneering the digital camera industry. Why did employers hire these inventors and seek to develop this type of technology? Because money was invested in exchange for the prospect of acquiring exclusive patent rights on new, popular technology. And guess what--it worked! Right now, the patent holder is reaping its reward, and you are enjoying the fruits of its research and development--digital camera technology. You know what that is called, boys and girls? Capitalism. Incentive drives innovation.

      The complaint indicates that the patent holder has licensed these patents to other companies after such companies lost their patent infringement lawsuits. It is likely that Apple will do the same. The patent holder does not want to prevent Apple, or any other company, from using its patented technology; it simply wants to be compensated for the violation of its patent rights.
    1. JerseyScottie's Avatar
      JerseyScottie -
      I don't know about you, but I'm getting really tired of this crap. This company can't even make it on it's own without stabbing every single company in the back and taking their moola.
      ohhh the apple fanboys how I love thee'. Apple is lawsuit happy..they will sue anybody and everybody over the most dumb **** like logos looking the same when clearly they don't, hell even filing a lawsuit against themselves! But uh oh somebody is filing a lawsuit against apple let's all ***** about it.Gimme a break..apple is getting what they deserve and that's a foot in the ***.It's called karma.
    1. Johnny_Bravo2009's Avatar
      Johnny_Bravo2009 -
      I want shares in st. claire..!
    1. tudtran's Avatar
      tudtran -
      Apple legal team must be very busy with all the law sued
    1. Alperovich's Avatar
      Alperovich -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jonbillsee View Post
      WOW! This article and the majority of comments under this thread are extremely ignorant of the patent system. As evidenced by the large awards that were granted to the patent holder, these patents were held valid, and as such, the infringers must pay damages under the law. Since the first of these patents issued in 1992--long before the digital camera boom--it appears as though the inventors on these patents were pioneering the digital camera industry. Why did employers hire these inventors and seek to develop this type of technology? Because money was invested in exchange for the prospect of acquiring exclusive patent rights on new, popular technology. And guess what--it worked! Right now, the patent holder is reaping its reward, and you are enjoying the fruits of its research and development--digital camera technology. You know what that is called, boys and girls? Capitalism. Incentive drives innovation.

      The complaint indicates that the patent holder has licensed these patents to other companies after such companies lost their patent infringement lawsuits. It is likely that Apple will do the same. The patent holder does not want to prevent Apple, or any other company, from using its patented technology; it simply wants to be compensated for the violation of its patent rights.
      u think the company that is doing the sueing did the research? no they didnt. they pattened an idea, not a way to make it work and how it fuctions.

      good thing law is decided by a judge.
    1. Freerunnering's Avatar
      Freerunnering -
      someone give me they're website name so i can hack them and then sue for having to spend my time checking their sercity!
    1. graytman's Avatar
      graytman -
      Quote Originally Posted by FoneWeasel View Post
      Time to start filing a patent for every idea that comes to mind and suing people like crazy.
      oh and don't forget to wait until there is a whole bunch of companies to sue and wait for the last minute to sue so you can get big bucks.

      GO APPLE
    1. hollow0's Avatar
      hollow0 -
      "010: Push button in order to capture image."

      You have got to be ******* kidding me! So now if we press a button to take a freaking picture it's illegal....according to them? RETARDS! They're just looking for money!

      Quote Originally Posted by JerseyScottie View Post
      ohhh the apple fanboys how I love thee'. Apple is lawsuit happy..they will sue anybody and everybody over the most dumb **** like logos looking the same when clearly they don't, hell even filing a lawsuit against themselves! But uh oh somebody is filing a lawsuit against apple let's all ***** about it.Gimme a break..apple is getting what they deserve and that's a foot in the ***.It's called karma.
      Just because we don't like what that company is doing doesn't make them a fanboy and we have all even complained about Apple's stupid lawsuit. So quit jumping on that fanboy bandwagon comment.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Quote Originally Posted by JerseyScottie View Post
      ohhh the apple fanboys how I love thee'. Apple is lawsuit happy..they will sue anybody and everybody over the most dumb **** like logos looking the same when clearly they don't, hell even filing a lawsuit against themselves! But uh oh somebody is filing a lawsuit against apple let's all ***** about it.Gimme a break..apple is getting what they deserve and that's a foot in the ***.It's called karma.
      Calling us fanboys? You're stupid for saying that.
    1. Conas's Avatar
      Conas -
      This is terrible! Does this company make any products they own patents for? I think patent owners shouldn't be able to sue unless they can be competitive in the market. What if Ben Frank had patented electricity? We could either be sitting in the dark, or being sued everytime we turned flicked the switch. I'm not sure how the patent system works, but it seems like a great to patent things that are years from becoming a reality. Or maybe find something common that technically isn't patented. "Using series of buttons to make a purchase of a snack item". Oh wait I just became a millionaire from suing vending machine companies! Unbelievable what some people will do these days. I like the idea of patents when used correctly, but no one on Earth except this company and their legal team benefit from this. Can these suits be appealed to higher courts? I'm disgusted.