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  • Adobe Compromise Will Finally Bring Flash Video Streaming to iOS


    Flash has been a thorn in Apple's side ever since the first iPhone shipped almost 4 years ago. While users have grown accustomed to their iOS devices not being able to display Flash content, it's unfortunate that Apple and Adobe have not been able to reach some sort of compromise before now.

    Adobe, however, may have finally come up with a solution to the Flash dilemma once and for all with their latest version of Flash. At the National Association of Broadcasters trade show in Las Vegas, Adobe recently previewed the latest version of Flash that incorporates HTTP live streaming. With this new version of Flash, iOS devices will finally be able to display Flash video without the need to install any additional software on their devices.

    Over the years Apple has been steadfast in their opposition to approving Flash for the iOS. Continually citing concerns over Flash’s poor overall performance and being detrimental to battery life. At one point Apple CEO Steve Jobs even went so far as to post an open letter on the company website defending their position regarding Flash on iOS devices entitled, Thoughts on Flash.

    Adobe's latest vision, however, is designed to help content publishers stream protected video to more types of mobile devices including Apple's iPad 2. This new streaming technology is being built into Adobe's Media Server and will allow a much wider variety of devices access to Flash video content. Their solution is designed to be transparent to the end user and will not require any additional software to be downloaded as well.

    According to Adobe’s company blog, “(HTTP Live Streaming) HLS is an MPEG2 transport stream (container) used by devices such as the Apple iPad 2. By adding support for HLS within the Flash Media Server, Adobe is reducing the publishing complexity for broadcasters who need to reach browsers supporting HLS through HTML5 (such as Safari) or devices where Adobe Flash is not installed.”

    For the average user, the details of this plan to get Flash video to more devices is a bit technical, however, in the not too distant future, Flash required warnings will be a thing of the past. If your device doesn’t have Flash installed on it, no problem, the server will send you the video in a format that your device is capable of displaying. It’s unclear just how long it will take Adobe to implement this across the board, but at least a solution to the Flash problem is finally on its way.

    Source: Adobe
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Adobe Compromise Will Finally Bring Flash Video Streaming to iOS started by Wiley John Wright View original post
    Comments 86 Comments
    1. johnr9412's Avatar
      johnr9412 -
      Hmm I've used my iPad & iPhone so much I kind of forgot flash existed..
    1. Hyperextension's Avatar
      Hyperextension -
      Who really cares????? Who really notices not having Flash on their iOS device??? If you are needing Flash that bad for your day-to-day, go buy a computer.
    1. blkeagle1's Avatar
      blkeagle1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by rickuk View Post
      Silly Apple, I'm so fed up with no flash on my iPhone that my next phone will be an Android. Ditto for iPad, won't be getting one, got myself an Andorid tablet instead which allows me to view the whole web not just the bits that Apple want me to see

      Two lost sales for Apple
      Yeah and when you switch to android, you will sure as he'll have the atrocious battery life to prove it.
    1. trek-life's Avatar
      trek-life -
      To you clowns in here talking about "apple can decide blah blah" you're right. They can decide what comes factory and "I" should be able to decide what I want to add to it. Flash should atleast have been an option, they could've even stated their opinions on it's limitations.

      Quoting Apple's sales doesn't make them void of criticism.
    1. Sem656's Avatar
      Sem656 -
      Crap so what is every android device released going to put on their ads bashing iPhone now that they won't be able to say it has flash?
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
      This just proves Adobe is the big man and crApple are the little girl still crying about Flash.
      Dont you think as its OUR iDEVICE then WE should have the choice to watch flash or not?

      When is crApple going to grow up and realise its OUR DEVICE and let us do WHAT WE WANT with OUR devices?
      I think they will loose as someone else is going to make a better tablet and everyone will buy that instead of the iPad 3 or the iPhone 5/6 coz its so tightly locked and limited and that makes the competition is so appealing.
      crApple will one day say to itself "why didn't we let your customers watch flash on their iDevices?" that'll be the day they stop making devices and the day they loose.

      BUT while there are crApple fanboys wasting their money on their iDevices crApple are still winning. How about you guys get out of your grey houses away from your grey macs and look at what the rest of the world are using. A PC that does 1000 more things a Mac can do and an Android phone which is so user friendly if you use it for a week you'll realise how good it is and you wont go back to the iPhone with its limits.
      If you think Apple is CrApple, should you even be on this site or even own a iDevice. You bought the phone knowing it has NO Flash, if you want Flash, get a Android Gingerbread phone.

      Yes Android is awesome but I like iTunes and there are more useful apps for me in the App Store for now and the iPhone 4 had the best HD camera on a phone until recently only beat my Sony Ericsson Androids.

      Apple have said they would let Flash on iOS if it was efficient but its buggy on Mac OS X and now it seems there's a major bug needing fixing every month, so I can see why they won't let it on their iOS.
    1. ryanean's Avatar
      ryanean -
      Quote Originally Posted by klouud View Post
      I just want Hulu (not plus... Hulu free).
      DOwnload iSwifter as mentioned above (if you have an iPad) it works great and lag time is close to none. Its a great way for me to bypass that Hulu Plus crap paywall.
    1. zoso10's Avatar
      zoso10 -
      That's kinda funny. A lot of companies like Hulu have been changing a lot of their stuff to HTML5 and what not to accomodate for the iPhone. Now the only problem is that companies like Hulu that did this charged money to use their stuff but now we can watch Hulu for free if Flash is available.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      I'm glad Apple held it's ground
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Quote Originally Posted by zoso10 View Post
      That's kinda funny. A lot of companies like Hulu have been changing a lot of their stuff to HTML5 and what not to accomodate for the iPhone. Now the only problem is that companies like Hulu that did this charged money to use their stuff but now we can watch Hulu for free if Flash is available.
      The "plus" in Hulu Plus means you're paying for an HD quality stream in addition to a LOT more content. I never considered watching Hulu until they offered up the paid service which is actually worth watching. The free version is so bad I couldn't stand it for more than 5 min on my computer screen.
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      Quote Originally Posted by sircrazy View Post
      The main issue with this is it does not "give us flash". It merely beats around the bush and formats the video so we can view it. I do not see how this will help with flash based sites such as grooveshark. Youtube already converts most videos so that they can be viewed on the idevice without flash
      Good point, but it does solve our Flash problem even if it is a roundabout way of doing it. I for one am not complaining about how they fix it, all that matter is that they did fix it.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      The "plus" in Hulu Plus means you're paying for an HD quality stream in addition to a LOT more content. I never considered watching Hulu until they offered up the paid service which is actually worth watching. The free version is so bad I couldn't stand it for more than 5 min on my computer screen.
      +1

      but I have had tons of issues with PS3 streaming the past few weeks.
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      +1

      but I have had tons of issues with PS3 streaming the past few weeks.
      Mine has been fine in both my wired living room and wireless bedroom setups. I'll keep a closer eye on it though. You might try and step down your stream to 1MB just as a test rather than Auto or maxed out. (mine is auto)
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Mine has been fine in both my wired living room and wireless bedroom setups. I'll keep a closer eye on it though. You might try and step down your stream to 1MB just as a test rather than Auto or maxed out. (mine is auto)
      I have tried wired and wireless. I also reduced rate. I have a great connection and it works fine from other devices. It works fine if I reset the system but after an episode or two it will start stuttering again. Its super annoying
    1. friscosooner's Avatar
      friscosooner -
      I'm sure Steve Jobs is crying over the loss.
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Quote Originally Posted by friscosooner View Post
      I'm sure Steve Jobs is crying over the loss.
      We would Steve be crying? He didn't have to do anything lol. Adobe is the company that had to change their software to stream content in MPEG2. Apple just #won!
    1. boxxa's Avatar
      boxxa -
      Let me ask the obvious question then. The post says if you don't have flash installed, the content will be streamed using another format your device supports..... So why again would I install Flash in the first place?

      Kind of like saying my website doesn't support Internet explorer but if you go to it in IE, it is the IE compatible version.
    1. Stray's Avatar
      Stray -
      Exactly lol
    1. lilljav's Avatar
      lilljav -
      Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
      This just proves Adobe is the big man and crApple are the little girl still crying about Flash.
      Dont you think as its OUR iDEVICE then WE should have the choice to watch flash or not?

      When is crApple going to grow up and realise its OUR DEVICE and let us do WHAT WE WANT with OUR devices?
      I think they will loose as someone else is going to make a better tablet and everyone will buy that instead of the iPad 3 or the iPhone 5/6 coz its so tightly locked and limited and that makes the competition is so appealing.
      crApple will one day say to itself "why didn't we let your customers watch flash on their iDevices?" that'll be the day they stop making devices and the day they loose.

      BUT while there are crApple fanboys wasting their money on their iDevices crApple are still winning. How about you guys get out of your grey houses away from your grey macs and look at what the rest of the world are using. A PC that does 1000 more things a Mac can do and an Android phone which is so user friendly if you use it for a week you'll realise how good it is and you wont go back to the iPhone with its limits.
      Why are you on MMI?...
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by Radex View Post
      It's not Flash that makes Android a pos as you would call it. It's because of the fragmentation caused by the manufacturers who modify Android to their liking with inconsistent updates. There is no consistency which makes it a nuisance for devs to produce software for Android.

      ===

      Personally, it would be nice to have an option to have Flash. More freedom to the users in the long run.



      I agree, end-user freedom. Still, Adobe needs to optimize the software better = \. Running Adobe Premiere or Indesign are the most annoying things I ever had to deal with. Predominantly, I am a Windows user, but I have a 2011 Macbook Pro 15" and I love it. It's great for multimedia projects that I often do.
      Actually, the last statistics I saw on the matter showed that something like 80% of android devices were on one of the two most recent updates of the Android OS. iOS devices aren't much better than that.


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