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  • New Samsung 10.1" Display Has More Pixels Than 27" iMac



    You read the headline right. Wipe the coffee off you just spit all over your monitor, and continue reading.

    The new LCD technology, developed by Samsung's subsidiary Nouvoyance, packs a 2560-by-1600 pixel resolution into a 10.1" display. This doubles the count of full 1080p displays and achieves a pixel density of 300 dpi. Any display capable of packing a 300 dpi pixel count qualifies as a "Retina" display.

    For those unfamiliar with the term "Retina" display, it is Apples term for a display that produces a pixel density so high the human retina can't discern between pixels from any viewing distance. This allows curves to appear smooth and eliminates jagged, pixelated edges. The iPhone 4 was the first mobile device to include this technology, and it has been widely rumored the next iPad will include the technology as well. Samsung, Apple's ever clever frenemy, will now likely provide Apple with the necessary retina displays for the next iPad.

    The Samsung display will be demoed at this years SID Display Week and likely be in production by the end of the year. In addition to the amazing resolution, the device will use 40% less power than traditional LCD's in power saving mode, as well as sport an improved color gamut.

    All of this sounds like gravy, and amazing, but even with a 40% reduction in power, it's going to take one hell of CPU and GPU to power a display pushing this many pixels. Imagine this kind of pixel density on a 27" iMac. I'd hate to do the math on what that resolution is.

    Source: Nouvoyance
    This article was originally published in forum thread: New Samsung 10.1" Display Has More Pixels Than 27" iMac started by Phillip Swanson View original post
    Comments 46 Comments
    1. mvhurlburt's Avatar
      mvhurlburt -
      Quote Originally Posted by Silverado1987 View Post
      Yeah and produce billions so there's never a shortage again. Jesus. Why is it so hard for a billion dollar company to think hey let's make a million and then sell more later.
      Because they did that in the 80's with computers and ended up with too many. They weren't selling enough and by the time they were at a reasonable amount it was now outdated tech and it cost the company. It's also simple supply and demand, if you limit the supply it will increase demand. I understand not everyone who wants said product will be able to get one initially but those who weren't lucky enough to get it at release will still eventually do so. Also supply constraints in this case, being a product already having considerable demand, will positively effect the long term demand as well. Apple knows this and they know the above thinking, that is to say overproducing, is not smart business and have unfortunately had first hand experience with the fallout.
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Aznjonathan23 View Post
      First
      Fail!

      Nice screen though, one more reason to hold off on the iPad 2.
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Silverado1987 View Post
      Yeah and produce billions so there's never a shortage again. Jesus. Why is it so hard for a billion dollar company to think hey let's make a million and then sell more later.
      because odds are Apple will not include this type of display in iPad until next year for iPad3, that means wait 1 year. 1 year is a loooonnnnggg time in tech world, someone else would be able to product similar product at cheaper price *cough*china*cough* That would mean you are stuck with bunch of displays you can't get rid of. Unless Apple place an order for them right now, nobody is going to mass produce anything.
    1. chuckytorn's Avatar
      chuckytorn -
      twenty fourth
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      That's beautiful.

      I would love a retina display iPad
    1. tekwiz's Avatar
      tekwiz -
      "For those unfamiliar with the term "Retina" display, it is Apples term for a display that produces a pixel density so high the human retina can't discern between pixels from any viewing distance."


      Sigh, no, this is wrong. The viewing distance plays a specific role in this, which is exactly why Mr. Jobs told you/us all that in regards to the iphone, that at the distance MOST people hold it, you can't distinguish between the pixels.
    1. Go Gators's Avatar
      Go Gators -
      With Apple suing Samsung right now over such petty issues, I hope Samsung tells Apple to take a hike if they come calling for the new screen.
    1. silentassassin12's Avatar
      silentassassin12 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mvhurlburt View Post
      Because they did that in the 80's with computers and ended up with too many. They weren't selling enough and by the time they were at a reasonable amount it was now outdated tech and it cost the company. It's also simple supply and demand, if you limit the supply it will increase demand. I understand not everyone who wants said product will be able to get one initially but those who weren't lucky enough to get it at release will still eventually do so. Also supply constraints in this case, being a product already having considerable demand, will positively effect the long term demand as well. Apple knows this and they know the above thinking, that is to say overproducing, is not smart business and have unfortunately had first hand experience with the fallout.
      this as well as the costs of holding inventory. it costs money to hold a million extra screens which is why a business will usually have an estimate of how many they will sell and produce/buy accordingly. it also makes their net income lower if they have a lot of ending inventory left over and thats something any company doesnt want
    1. PatrickGSR94's Avatar
      PatrickGSR94 -
      Quote Originally Posted by lightmaster View Post
      It could be that the actual pixels for the 10.1" screen is 2569x1605, but 2560x1600 is a more rounded number and they advertised that instead. Then we'd be getting an extra 27,245 pixels.

      Actually, assuming the display is EXACTLY 300 DPI, the diagonal measurement is 10.06291 inches, which of course they just round to 10.1 inches.

      So really you're getting jipped 0.037987 inches of diagonal screen.

    1. alexevo's Avatar
      alexevo -
      Why does anyone even try to get a "first" any more? If you REALLY were serious about getting a first then you could just pick a section that has new articles put up more frequently than others and keep hitting refresh until you see a new article. It isn't hard nor does it garner you any kind of prestige.

      That being said, I foresee Samsung and Apple doing business for a long time to come despite their quibbles. Samsung is just trying to get their piece of the pie, they aren't trying by any means to knock the iPad off it's top sales pedestal. I can't wait until this technology makes its way into the new Macbooks.
    1. Xenthis's Avatar
      Xenthis -
      Cool!
    1. zoso10's Avatar
      zoso10 -
      It could be that the actual pixels for the 10.1" screen is 2569x1605, but 2560x1600 is a more rounded number and they advertised that instead. Then we'd be getting an extra 27,245 pixels.
      You're probably right. Besides 2560 by 1600 rolls of the tongue better than 2569 by 1605.
    1. syedsufyan's Avatar
      syedsufyan -
      Approximately 6912x4320 screen for the 27" iMac.
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      I just jizzed in my pants.


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
    1. syedsufyan's Avatar
      syedsufyan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Everyone View Post
      I hope the next iPhone also has this.
      Actually, the iPhone 4 has a better display, instead of 300DPI, it has 326DPI.
    1. alexevo's Avatar
      alexevo -
      Quote Originally Posted by syedsufyan View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Everyone View Post
      I hope the next iPhone also has this.
      Actually, the iPhone 4 has a better display, instead of 300DPI, it has 326DPI.
      Nice clever attempt at quoting "Everyone" when I think there was MAYBE 1 post saying "I hope the next iPhone also has this" when in fact it was something to the effect of I wish this was a phone(notice the lack of reference to ANY specific phone). Perhaps they wished they had an iPad-sized phone that could make calls and had a phone number that worked over 3G.

      Also your claim of "better" is subject to all aspects of the display. What if this one uses less power and has a better contrast ratio than the Retina display? Is the Retina still "better"? What if this one is able to be manufactured thinner thus leaving more room for components or a bigger battery? Is the Retina still "better"?

      I could go on but I think you get the point by now.

      I think this is a step in the right direction for Samsung because it either will increase sales for them, guarantee longer-term business relations with Apple, or both. Maybe it will finally convince Apple to switch to Samsung as their primary IPS LCD manufacturer instead of LG too.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Too bad its Samsung, doubt Apple will use Samsung parts, maybe LG's.
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by alexevo View Post
      Nice clever attempt at quoting "Everyone" when I think there was MAYBE 1 post saying "I hope the next iPhone also has this" when in fact it was something to the effect of I wish this was a phone(notice the lack of reference to ANY specific phone). Perhaps they wished they had an iPad-sized phone that could make calls and had a phone number that worked over 3G.

      Also your claim of "better" is subject to all aspects of the display. What if this one uses less power and has a better contrast ratio than the Retina display? Is the Retina still "better"? What if this one is able to be manufactured thinner thus leaving more room for components or a bigger battery? Is the Retina still "better"?

      I could go on but I think you get the point by now.
      The point of this was???
    1. alexevo's Avatar
      alexevo -
      Quote Originally Posted by mmaboi21 View Post
      The point of this was???
      You need to quote my entire post if you're going to question what the point of it was. Try again.

      Quote Originally Posted by MetallicaFan1991 View Post
      Too bad its Samsung, doubt Apple will use Samsung parts, maybe LG's.
      As for Apple and Samsung. Doesn't Apple already use Samsung's nand flash memory? Also SOME iPhones/iPads use Samsung IPS LCDs but currently the majority of them use LG's displays so I figured Apple would be more inclined to adjust their ratio of LG vs. Samsung for parts more towards Samsung if they stepped up their display game to match LG.
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Apple will make a better screen when they're ready. Even with this new display I doubt it'll outsell the iPad 2.