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  • Real or Real Fake: the Curious Case of the iPhone 4G Pics


    Nick Hesson wrote this morning about an Engadget post that purported to show pictures of a fourth-generation iPhone found on the floor of a bar in San Jose, near Apple headquarters. Nick wasn't buying it, and sure enough, a user on the Spanish site Applesfera wrote in to say that he'd bought an identical phone - likely a Chinese shanzhai knockoff - in Japan last year. So that's it, right? Just another fake photo in the long series of fake iPhone G4 (the term TiPB is using - as opposed to 4G) photos we've been seeing for about a year.

    Well, the guys at Engadget are sticking to their guns. They went back and looked at an image that had supposedly been tweeted from Apple labs back in January. The photo showed an iPhone laying on top of the iPad, which was bolted to the table in what may have been some sort of an RF testing harness. Alongside the iPad was another iPhone, and when you look at the picture, it bears a distinct resemblance to the supposed barroom-floor iPhone that Engadget had been showing off earlier.

    In addition, other photos emerged from WeiPhone, the Chinese site that earlier leaked pictures of the iPad case, as well as the internal "K84" designator that Apple employees used while the name "iPad" was still secret. The new photos, which appear on the forums at MacRumors, show internal components, as well as the screen, the bezel, and the back case, which definitely looks like the case of the "lost and found" phone.

    So what's the deal here? I agree with Nick that this phone's blocky design seems really "off" for Apple. To me it looks more like a big version of the Sony Ericsson C510 I had back in 2004. On the other hand, maybe he's right that this could be a prototype version Apple's using for testing, and that the released phone will actually look like an iPhone. It still seems really sketchy, though.

    image via Engadget
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Real or Real Fake: the Curious Case of the iPhone 4G Pics started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 58 Comments
    1. iGarza's Avatar
      iGarza -
      I guess will wait and see. I don't think apple would deviate too much away from the current 3gs style. The current iPhone is the sleekest and smoothest hand held on the market. the one in the pics above looks too bulky and old school.
    1. Wez's Avatar
      Wez -
      I think you should all check out Gizmodos home page. http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone
    1. ih8sn0w's Avatar
      ih8sn0w -
      This is actually pretty cool on how the first iPad pic got leaked before released and has the iPhone on top.

      The Phone that is on top of the iPad looks like the one in the video on Gizmodo. You can kind of see the so-called "camera" lens in the front.

      If this really is apple's new device, I'm disappointed. Its harder to use a device that is flat and thicker.
    1. iGarza's Avatar
      iGarza -
      The more i look at it, the more i suspect its a Chinese knock off just like the round iPhone on Gizmodo.

      I dont think apple would byte HTC style with the bulky, thick, square features. Looks horrible. and why the hell would someone leave it in a bar in Redmond???

      Bunch of bulls@%$&.
    1. Kil0111's Avatar
      Kil0111 -
      idk man, those videos are just more proof to me that this may just be the next gen iPhone... and an ugly one at that..
    1. iGarza's Avatar
      iGarza -
      Also why dont have they have any video with it turned on???
      you also notice the "xxGB" on the back.
      its gotta be a knock off.
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Wow.. Gizmodo sells it. I'm pretty sure we have a hardcore real leak this time. They disassembled it.. this would be hard to fake.
    1. PlatoTheForms's Avatar
      PlatoTheForms -
      longest april fool's joke.
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      If the next gen iPhone does in fact have a micro sim I don't see how that hurts unlockers. As it stands now I think AT&T is the only carrier (in the US) that supports them but this is a worldwide phone and worldwide carriers will support them when it is released (if it does have a micro sim in it).
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Read the WHOLE article on Gizmodo. It's real.. no doubts.

      This Is Apple's Next iPhone - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      Really? As secretive as Apple tends to be...

      1. Found in a bar in San Jose.
      2. Purchased in a bar in Redwood City.

      If Apple's people are as pathetic as to actually forget it in a bar I can't believe Steve would even let them leave the Apple grounds with them in hand. I am going to hold my wad until Steve shows it off for real in June.
    1. Raptors's Avatar
      Raptors -
      You guys acually believe it was found at a bar? Lmao it was probably stolen, and the cover was it. Was "found"
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      Really? As secretive as Apple tends to be...

      1. Found in a bar in San Jose.
      2. Purchased in a bar in Redwood City.

      If Apple's people are as pathetic as to actually forget it in a bar I can't believe Steve would even let them leave the Apple grounds with them in hand. I am going to hold my wad until Steve shows it off for real in June.
      It runs an iPhone OS.. iTunes recognizes it as an iPhone.. they took it apart and it has Apple branded components in it! This = real iPhone. A fake can't do any of those things.
    1. AJV1989's Avatar
      AJV1989 -
      GO TO GIZMODO.COM FOR PICS AND VIDS.

      This Is Apple's Next iPhone

      You are looking at Apple's next iPhone. It was found lost in a bar in Redwood City, camouflaged to look like an iPhone 3GS. We got it. We disassembled it. It's the real thing, and here are all the details.


      While Apple may tinker with the final packaging and design of the final phone, it's clear that the features in this lost-and-found next-generation iPhone are drastically new and drastically different from what came before. Here's the detailed list of our findings:

      What's new
      • Front-facing video chat camera
      • Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
      • Camera flash
      • Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
      • Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
      • What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
      • Split buttons for volume
      • Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic

      What's changed
      • The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
      • An aluminum border going completely around the outside
      • Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
      • Everything is more squared off
      • 3 grams heavier
      • 16% Larger battery
      • Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery


      Why we think it's definitely real
      We're as skeptical—if not more—than all of you. We get false tips all the time. But after playing with it for about a week—the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone—and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake. In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible. Here are the reasons, one by one.

      It has been reported lost
      Apple-connected John Gruber—from Daring Fireball—says that Apple has indeed lost a prototype iPhone and they want it back:

      So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back.
      Obviously someone found it, and here it is.

      The screen
      While we couldn't get it past the connect to iTunes screen for the reasons listed earlier, the USB cable on that screen was so high quality that it was impossible to discern individual pixels. We can't tell you the exact resolution of this next-generation iPhone, but it's much higher than the current iPhone 3GS.

      The operating system
      According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.


      It is recognized as an iPhone
      This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.

      It uses micro-sim
      The fact that it uses a micro-sim is a clear indicator that this is a next-generation iPhone. No other cellphone uses this standard at this point in the US.

      The camouflage case
      The case it came inside was a fully developed plastic case to house this phone to disguise it like a 3GS. This wasn't just a normal case; it had all the proper new holes cut out for the new switches and ports and camera holes and camera flash. But it looks like something from Belkin or Case-Mate. It's a perfect disguise.

      The fact that it's in the wild right now
      Logic can also narrow down why this phone is this year's iPhone, rather than next year's model or one from the previous year's, just because it was found in the wild right now. It makes no sense for Apple to be testing 2011's model right now, in super finished form—they wouldn't be nearly finished with it. The phone also can't be last year's test model, because last year's model (based on the iPhone 3GS teardowns) components were way different. No micro-sim, much bigger logic board, no flash, no front camera, smaller battery and an inferior camera. That only leaves the 2010 model.

      The guts, the definitive proof
      And finally, when we opened it up, we saw multiple components that were clearly labeled APPLE. And, because the components were fit extremely well and extremely conformed inside the case (obvious that it was designed FOR this case), it was evident that it was not just a 3G or a 3GS transplanted into another body. That probably wouldn't even be possible, with the size constraints of the thinner device and larger battery.


      The New Industrial Design
      At first sight, this new iPhone's industrial design seems so different from the previous two generations that it could be discarded as just a provisional case. Even while the finish is so perfect that it feels right out of the factory, some of the design language elements that are common to all Apple products are not there. Gone is the flushed screen glass against the metal rim. Gone is the single volume button, replaced by two separate ones. Gone is the seamless rim, and gone are the tapered, curved surfaces.

      Despite that, however, this design is not a departure. Not when you frame it with the rest of the Apple product line. It's all the contrary: This new iPhone gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad. In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GS—with its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved back—is out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad. Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity.

      But why the black plastic back, instead of going with an unibody aluminum design? Why the two audio volume buttons? Why the seams? And why doesn't the back have any curvature at all?



      Why the plastic back?
      The plastic back is the most obvious of the design choices. The iPad, with its all aluminum back, has seen its Wi-Fi reception radius reduced. The 3G version comes with a large patch on the top, probably big enough to provide with good reception. But the new tiny iPhone doesn't have the luxury of space: It needs to provide as much signal as possible using a very small surface. I'm sure Jon Ive is dying to get rid of the plastic back, and go iPad-style all the way, but the wireless reception is the most important thing in a cellphone. A necessary aesthetical-functional trade-off.

      Why separate volume buttons?
      This new iPhone uses separate buttons for the volume instead of the single button that you can find in the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It's one of the factors that may indicate that this is a provisional case, until you think about one of the most requested features for Apple's phone: A physical button for the camera. The new iPhone has a bigger sensor and a flash, which means that the camera function keeps gaining more weight. It's only logical to think that Apple may have implemented this two-button approach to provide with a physical shutter button. It makes sense.

      Why the seams?
      The seams are perhaps the most surprising aspect of the new design. They don't seem to respond to any aesthetic criteria and, in terms of function, we can't adventure any explanation. But they don't look bad. In fact, the whole effect seems good, like something you will find in a Braun product from the 70s.

      It's doubtful that the seams are arbitrary, however. Either they will disappear from the final product, or they have a function we can't foresee at this time.

      Why no tapering or curves?
      As you will see in a future article, the new iPhone is so miniaturized and packed that there's no room for the tapered, curved surfaces. Everything is as tight as it could get, with no space for anything but electronics.

      The hardware specs
      The phone measures 4.50 by 2.31 by 0.37 inches. It weighs 140 grams. The 3GS weighs 137 grams on a postal scale (and 135 on Apple's official measurements). So, in comparison, it's 3 grams heavier. The battery is 5.25 WHr at 3.7V, compared to the 3GS battery, which is 4.51 WHr at 3.7V. On the back of the phone, it said it was XX GB, but since we were unable to get the phone to a running state, we couldn't see exactly how large it was.



      How it feels
      Freaking amazing. As a person who never really liked the round mound of a back in the 3GS, the sleeker, flatter, squarer design is super welcome. It feels sturdier than the 3GS, and much less plasticky. The metal buttons give it a heftier feel—less of a toy—than all previous generations. The closest analog to it would be the original iPhone, which is more square and heavy than its newer brothers.

      It feels completely natural up to your face, and the fact that both the front and the back are glossy makes no difference on how well you can hold it without the phone slipping. And because it's thinner, it feels even nicer in your pants.



      What all this means
      Apple has updated the exterior drastically different from the 3G and 3GS. That design is old, it felt out of place compared to the rest of their products and needed desperately to be killed. Now you have a thinner body, a much more pleasant form factor with no wasted space and lots of hard lines. But the design isn't the most important part that's changed.

      They've delivered many of the features people have been waiting for—that damn front camera!—while at the same time upgrading everything else. Flash, better back camera, better battery life and another microphone for better voice clarity. People who bought the 3G two years ago and are now in the perfect position to upgrade and get a dramatically different, and better, phone. If confirmed this summer, and if it performs as we expect, this next-generation iPhone looks like a winner.
    1. Fodd1337's Avatar
      Fodd1337 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr. House View Post
      Yes, that is true if the light source in the exact same position and if the phone is held in the same angle (and it obviously is not) in both pictures, which is highly unlikely. And as for the bezzle, it is very subtle but you can notice a slight bulge on the bezzle.
      LOL, I agree with what you are saying for the most part, but Gizmodo just posted a video of the new iPhone which pretty much kills your theory >.<
    1. 400milliliters's Avatar
      400milliliters -
      Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
      If the next gen iPhone does in fact have a micro sim I don't see how that hurts unlockers. As it stands now I think AT&T is the only carrier (in the US) that supports them but this is a worldwide phone and worldwide carriers will support them when it is released (if it does have a micro sim in it).
      Well it doesn't necessarily hurt unlockers since it's the same chip, the only diff being the size of the plastic around the chip itself.. it will be a while, i think, before other carriers begin to use micro sim ; crippleing me( and anyone else for that matter, using Tmobile as their carrier)from upgrading to the new device. I suppose it can be cut down to size, and there are a couple of micro sim--> sim adaptors.

      Quote Originally Posted by ih8sn0w View Post
      This is actually pretty cool on how the first iPad pic got leaked before released and has the iPhone on top.

      The Phone that is on top of the iPad looks like the one in the video on Gizmodo. You can kind of see the so-called "camera" lens in the front.

      If this really is apple's new device, I'm disappointed. Its harder to use a device that is flat and thicker.
      agreed. I figured the device would be sleek and countoured, and improving on the 3G/ 3G[S] design. also the screen i thought was going to be a tad larger. hopefully this is only a trial unit strategically leaked for response from end users for feedback before final design.

      P.S--liked the new SHSH blob capture tool you wrote. good work..
    1. j.castellon's Avatar
      j.castellon -
      Its real get over it
    1. Wessy's Avatar
      Wessy -
      Quote Originally Posted by j.castellon View Post
      Its real get over it
      Real or not, whatever Apple is releasing this year has been designed, tested and is in mass production by now to meet any kind of demand later this summer or fall.