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  • 40% of BlackBerry Phones in an Unhappy, iPhone-less Home?



    There could very well be a lot of unsatisfied BlackBerry users in our midst. At least, that's the logical inference one could make after reading the latest report from market researcher firm Crowd Science. According to the research, large numbers of BlackBerry users may be so displeased with RIM's inability to meet growing consumer demands, that as many as two in five BlackBerry owners are considering a switch to the iPhone.

    A 40% conversion of BlackBerry owners to iPhone owners would represent more than just a massive exodus from one platform to the next. It would, in fact, represent an equally massive shift in momentum to a platform that is already leaps and bounds ahead of most competitors in the smartphone industry.

    When it comes to product loyalty, BlackBerry owners are showing less and less of it. The Crowd Scientists, in fact, discovered much stronger loyalty among Android users, 90% of whom say the won't switch brands when its time for an upgrade. BlackBerry users, meanwhile, are also starting to show signs of lagging faith in the device as the ultimate business tool. Only 7% of BlackBerry owners exclusively use their device for business purposes.

    "These results show that the restlessness of Blackberry users with their current brand hasn't just been driven by the allure of iPhone," said John Martin, CEO of Crowd Science. "Rather, Blackberry as a brand just isn't garnering the loyalty seen with other mobile operating systems."
    The survey consisted of roughly 1,200 respondents wall randomly recruited by the Crowd Science Sample Beta program

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: 40% of BlackBerry Phones in an Unhappy, iPhone-less Home? started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 31 Comments
    1. LSZ33's Avatar
      LSZ33 -
      seems like the same old recycled posts
    1. lolcats1's Avatar
      lolcats1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by LSZ33 View Post
      seems like the same old recycled posts
      it's because nothing new is happening. and how old is that blackberry they have pictured there? the new ones look much nicer, and everyone i know that has one loves it.



      more up to date one
    1. edwilk55's Avatar
      edwilk55 -
      I had a Storm and hated it. Couldn't stand the Blackberry services, apps, web, etc.

      Never been happier than when I switched to the iPhone other than the f'n battery!

      Esp now that our company purchased the Lotus Notes Traveler app allowing direct email/calender/phone book integration with the iPhone.

      I've used the Blackberry's other than the Storm and hated them w/a passion.
    1. mawells787's Avatar
      mawells787 -
      i left the iphone because of signal issues and dropped calls for a blackberry. but i regret it everyday. RIM is completely falling behind everyone else because of the way they handle data. the fact that they try to compress data so that it doesn't put too much strain on the wireless network is the problem. Anytime you want to do something on the blackberry it takes google maps and the browser minutes before anything loads. with my iphone i had 2mb connection speeds on my 9700 it feels like im on Edge. im dumping this blackberry as soon as at&t gets the HTC Desire.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      ^Actually the more up to date Blackberry is the Bold 9700. My sister and two of my friends have just bought the Bold 9700.
      The Bold on same Wifi is nowhere as quick as the iPhone, it's slow and loading the BB App Store takes ages!!! The Blackberry is becoming more and more popular with the young generation like us. All of them say the 3GS is crap lol, pick on my iPhone especially when they go on and on how their battery life lasts days and days where mine dies out after a day and a half.
      I thought the iPhone UI was plain and simple but the BB UI is even more crappier!
      If the iPhone had a really good battery, it would kill the BB totally but because the battery is sooo bad on the iPhone, many people won't leave their BB still.
    1. ukoda's Avatar
      ukoda -
      Quote Originally Posted by Messany View Post
      ...
      A 40% conversion of BlackBerry owners to iPhone owners would represent more than just a massive exodus from one platform to the next.
      ...
      The Crowd Scientists, in fact, discovered much stronger loyalty among Android users, 90% of whom say the won't switch brands when its time for an upgrade.
      ...
      I wonder what the product loyalty rate is for iPhone owners? As they get closer to market saturation the rate must drop of. I'm guessing the 90% for Android users reflects most of them actively seek the platform and that rate will drop too as it becomes more mainstream.
    1. hollow0's Avatar
      hollow0 -
      Quote Originally Posted by MetallicaFan1991 View Post
      ^Actually the more up to date Blackberry is the Bold 9700. My sister and two of my friends have just bought the Bold 9700.
      The Bold on same Wifi is nowhere as quick as the iPhone, it's slow and loading the BB App Store takes ages!!! The Blackberry is becoming more and more popular with the young generation like us. All of them say the 3GS is crap lol, pick on my iPhone especially when they go on and on how their battery life lasts days and days where mine dies out after a day and a half.
      I thought the iPhone UI was plain and simple but the BB UI is even more crappier!
      If the iPhone had a really good battery, it would kill the BB totally but because the battery is sooo bad on the iPhone, many people won't leave their BB still.
      Notice how the only thing your blueberry friends had to say was that the battery is crap. When in reality the iPhone battery isn't crap. It's the use of it that kills it. Their battery lasts for days but what exactly can you do on a bb? Email, text,...more email? Other smartphone UIs like Android, iPhone OS, and windows mobile do soo much more than BBs. So for them to even compare batter life is dumb. BBs are nothing but glorified email carriers. Remember this..haters are confused admirers.
    1. lolcats1's Avatar
      lolcats1 -
      well each to their own. i love the iphone UI, but my dad, a 52 year old lead design, pretty much hates the iphone.

      he complains about the UI and software like crazy. of course, he's probably looking at it like "if that were my team that designed that"
    1. lost786's Avatar
      lost786 -
      i hate blackberry they should do something innovative
    1. ro0oney's Avatar
      ro0oney -
      blackberry was made for business ppl who need to check the internet every now and then, why did they create a phone with a massive keyboards?
      ppl get it just to text? only useless.
      and plus u can't do much fun stuff, again it was meant for class-working ppl.
    1. pyromcr's Avatar
      pyromcr -
      i cant stand blackberries, they are so annoying to use and there are no good games or anything for them...
    1. ddonuts4's Avatar
      ddonuts4 -
      Quote Originally Posted by lolcats1 View Post
      it's because nothing new is happening. and how old is that blackberry they have pictured there? the new ones look much nicer, and everyone i know that has one loves it.



      more up to date one
      its just to make the blackberry seem a little worse
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Not surprised, I know at least 4-5 different people that have a BB and hate it. They really are just for business people who check/write e-mail 24/7. There's nothing real special about them.
    1. Teoyaomqui's Avatar
      Teoyaomqui -
      Just count how many iPhone users complain in this forum about the iPhone.

      No Tethering? Battery sux? <--yes it does and I hate it when I get a call and the freaken iPhone turns off.
    1. romeo_herman's Avatar
      romeo_herman -
      Ha...ha...ha...ha....
    1. creasy425's Avatar
      creasy425 -
      as long as RIm holds contracts with every major law enforcemnet agency in the US (fbi, nsa, dea, hls, dod etc) theres not much reason for them to change much...they could live quite comfortably just off of those contracts alone.
    1. willie498's Avatar
      willie498 -
      I've had iPhones, the games are cool and I like the look, but I would rather have my iPod touch. If iPhone came out with a MSN client as good as the one on my blackberry, I would go back and activate service today. I really love my blackberry, and I don't hate iPhones, just alot of the time, I don't have a charger around, and it's easy for me to use a mini USB one that I can find or get for very cheap. I also like that they have a very good backlight sensor, so If i walk in the hallways at school, and it goes from dark to bright, it switches much faster than my iPhone/iPod touch does. Either way, I think there both good phones except for the pearl which just sucks.
    1. Jayce Chaze's Avatar
      Jayce Chaze -
      its true!
    1. Kroo's Avatar
      Kroo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Teoyaomqui View Post
      Just count how many iPhone users complain in this forum about the iPhone.

      No Tethering? Battery sux? <--yes it does and I hate it when I get a call and the freaken iPhone turns off.
      Well tethering isn't an iPhone issue, blame your carrier. Have tethering here, and it's free on a standard plan. As for the battery, I never used my Palm Treo to the extent I use the iPhone and my last Treo was garbage and wouldn't see out the day, so if you don't expect it drop after using it all day, then get something else. And the hate apple users who pop their heads up on a regular basis here, strangely use PC's and love taking the baseball bat out for any reason. So once you can drop the bias, and get to the nuts and bolts and compare apples to apples (so to speak) then a fair comparison can be found. I'm expecting most of the Apple hateboys here to take the baseball bat out on this post too.

      Quote Originally Posted by willie498 View Post
      If iPhone came out with a MSN client as good as the one on my blackberry, I would go back and activate service today.
      eBuddy works great as a MSN Yahoo AIM messenger client on the iPhone and its free. Paralingo is good, but it costs. Hey, what's a couple of bucks if you really want messenger.
    1. alphonso's Avatar
      alphonso -
      I'll tell you my experience. I've been an iPhone user since day 1... never really had battery problems except when I tried the AIM with push and in any case i always charge my phone at night. What really bothered me was how slow it got after doing a jailbreak. It would take about 20 seconds to open up the sms screen, mail app, phone app, etc. but nothing that would really make me feel like throwing my phone out the window.
      About a month ago a few friends got BB with a global internet service, since we travel all over the world allot, seemed like a good idea. Where I live iPhone doesn't have a service like this, so i thought if I get a BB i would save money while roaming keeping in touch with family instead of roaming calls and SMS.

      So i got the Storm 2.

      1. with the same usage of text and email traffic that i had on the iPhone, battery was completely dead within 8 hours... this was true as well on 3 other storm that friends have. (this is not counting that I do use my iPhone to play games on it.... while on the bb i only used the bb messenger, mail and phone calls.

      2. While I was roaming I got charged with excess data usage. How can this be possible if I only use the BB messenger and receive less than 5 mails per day and do not download attachments!? I have 8mb of roaming use, and I still cant find anywhere how much data does the BB messenger use per say.... hour, 24 hours?

      3. Since I exceeded my limit, my line got cut off for a few hours until I payed the bill, so decided to try a few more things.... while on wifi, I can NOT use the browswer, I can NOT check my mail, I can NOT use the BB messenger (which sounds obvious) so what can I do with my BB in this situation... just receive calls (incoming are free) and receive SMS. This tells me one thing... This tells me one thing... When I get my vacation from work and go back home for a few weeks, I need either to use my BB with the roaming charges, to use email and browser and God knows what other apps, or I can swap my sim card and pop in the one I have back home but without any of these features on. For that Ill just use a nokia 1100 which does exactly the same thing as the BB would in this situation

      4. Applications, Games, Themes,etc.... are people with BB crazy paying so much for this? Im not talking about getting these from pirate websites... Im talking legal here. the same app in the Appstore and in the App World (which by the way does not work where I am) 3 times as much. $0.99 >apple, $2.99 > BB for Whatsapp messenger, and the UI for apps in BB are UGLY. Its the same with any app you search for. Theme! you can get as many themes as you want on iPhone, all of them free, while on BB they'll rob you $4.00 minimum and the few ones you do get free are not nice at all nor are they user friendly.

      People say that BB are for business people, but like a post before said.. the only thing they do is send emails all the time... can't you do this on an iPhone? send and receive files.. again doesn't the iPhone do this? I still have not found a good PDF reader for the BB. My company gives out manuals in pdf format so the table of content is very important to have... So decided to try Documents to Go Premium, which they offer you the sky if you like for a few dollars.... $49.99, and they are nice enough to give you PDF to go FREE! which is useless unless you want to go through a document with over 100 pages, page by page cuss it does not have the TOC.
      (good thing I didn't pay for it)

      The phone itself is nice, except for the battery, i have no complaints and even I think there are a few things that both companies can learn from each other, device wise. but we're talking services here and after having the BB for a month, as soon as the new iPhone comes out, ill be going back...

      I won't even comment on synching with mac and cracked applications...

      by the way... anyone knows when the new iPhone 4g's coming out?