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  • Delay in iPhone 5 Release May Have Something to Do With LTE


    The internet was abuzz with rumors of the past few days reporting that this year's Apple WWDC would not feature any new hardware, and would focus strictly on software (as the invitation suggests.) WWDC has been the place where the iPhone 3G, 3Gs, and 4 have all been announced, so it would seem likely that Apple would announce the fifth-generation iPhone at WWDC 2011. Many reports however, are now suggesting otherwise, but today TechCrunch has released a detailed report explaining what they believe to coming in iOS 5, and then continues to mention why we may not see an iPhone 5 at WWDC, and their answer is simple: LTE.

    LTE (short for Long Term Evolution) is the technology behind both AT&T's and Verizon's 4G network. Verizon is slightly ahead of their nemesis in their rollout schedule, but both companies should have much of the United States blanketed in 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon in fact, just released their first Android device that is capable of running on the new 4G network, and reviews have widely praised the incredible speed (particularly compared to other technologies that are being touted as '4G,' such as Sprint's WiMax and T-Mobile's HSPDA) that rivals home broadband. It may make sense for Apple to continue its work on 4G LTE over the summer, and then release one single device that was capable of running old protocols (GSM and CDMA) as well as LTE. In fact, Apple's current Qualcomm chip in the Verizon iPhone 4 is already capable of both GSM and CDMA. Apple just needs to redesign their antenna to accommodate it.

    This rumor makes the previous rumors of a delayed iPhone make a whole lot of sense. It also is in line with previous reports that the iPhone 5 will not see a significant exterior redesign (besides the occasional report of a four-inch screen- I wouldn't count on it.) This could be because the significant redesign would happen on the interior. TecCrunch is quick to point out that Apple COO "addressed the LTE topic directly," when he stated at the launch of the Verizon iPhone: " 'The first generation LTE chipsets force some design compromises. Some of which we would not make.'

    Apple is undoubtedly preparing an LTE iPhone, the question is whether we'll see it in the next revision of the iPhone or not. TechCrunch's analysts suggest a less than ten-percent chance of 4G LTE coming to the iPhone 5 if it gets released this summer, but a fifty-percent chance if the phone is released this fall. It may make sense for Apple to wait now, in order to truly provide a next-generation handset and not fall-behind by not including 4G LTE in the iPhone until summer 2012.

    Source:
    TechCrunch
    9to5Mac
    Engadget - Thunderbolt Review
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Delay in iPhone 5 Release May Have Something to Do With LTE started by Matt Savoca View original post
    Comments 74 Comments
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      4G - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Here's a good one that shows T-Mobile's "4G" (actually 3G) network beating out Sprint's 4G WIMAX network.
      http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/04...t-mobile-hspa/

      Documented 4G phones slower than 3G phones on AT&T's network.
      http://moconews.net/article/419-desp...hort-on-speed/
    1. kline1's Avatar
      kline1 -
      I think the new phone is gonna be called iPhone 4G, i think its gonna be the same thing they did with the 3G and the 3GS, no cosmetic changes just the inside, iPhone 5 wont come until next year with a bigger screen.
    1. delusion950's Avatar
      delusion950 -
      Nice picture of iPhone 5
    1. jamesgunaca's Avatar
      jamesgunaca -
      Quote Originally Posted by IXAdamOwnzXI View Post
      why would Apple deploy an LTE phone as soon as 4G is rolled out. Apple always waits a year or two.
      What I mean is it's unlike them to implement the technology as soon as it's released
      Ummm, Thunderbolt?
    1. manickbarry's Avatar
      manickbarry -
      The iPad 2 should have been 4g
    1. jds1469's Avatar
      jds1469 -
      Quote Originally Posted by manickbarry View Post
      The iPad 2 should have been 4g

      Do you think before you type? Or even read the posts before yours?

      Unless you live in New York or LA, there is no need for a 4G device.

      Its just adding more needless crap inside the device jacking the price up and draining the battery more.
    1. LigerLuvr9210's Avatar
      LigerLuvr9210 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jamesgunaca View Post
      Ummm, Thunderbolt?
      Thunderbolt implementation in the new MacBooks is completely different. Its more like their use of FireWire ports. Looking at their history with computers, they like to have weird ports, and try to be trendsetters with their ports. They killed the floppy disk on Macs before they were obsolete and have use less common ports for video output like DVI, and DisplayPort. If you tell tech people about those ports they are aware that they won't have many compatible accessories but will be excited anyways. Average people won't know what they are and will be happy to just have their USB ports.

      But if you put a 4G radio in the new iPhone, even if it is backwards compatible with 3G networks, tech people will be excited and know it will be spotty coverage. Average people will get really excited and not realize that they will not actually be getting 4G speeds and will be upset and frustrated with Apple that their product didn't work like it was supposed to, and Apple will lose those people
    1. hacka's Avatar
      hacka -
      In short, that is bull. Apple is known for it's innovation, but rolling out an iPhone on this new "4G" that isn't even fully rolled out yet isn't innovation. It's being ridiculous. Come on Apple! Get it straight! If you want money, don't put in 4G! Put in what really matters! (Cloud Storage)
    1. whodatfan's Avatar
      whodatfan -
      Well, I'm on 5g so ya'll need to step up your game. Wha, wha????
    1. Maxer95's Avatar
      Maxer95 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mmurphmsu View Post
      So your saying the 3GS is greater than the iPhone 4???? I think you meant 3GS
      Dude no he doesnt its just suposed 2 b an arrow chill

      Quote Originally Posted by hacka View Post
      In short, that is bull. Apple is known for it's innovation, but rolling out an iPhone on this new "4G" that isn't even fully rolled out yet isn't innovation. It's being ridiculous. Come on Apple! Get it straight! If you want money, don't put in 4G! Put in what really matters! (Cloud Storage)
      first of all the whole cloud storage thing is rediculus and probly the most hackable unsicure thing there is an second of all they already have that its called the iphone nano
    1. drewstone's Avatar
      drewstone -
      maybe they are going to wait and release a gsm and cdma iphone5 at the same time? i mean if i was on verizon and just bought a ip4, it would kind of piss me off that there is a new gsm version and not one for cdma. i just hope it wont take until summer of 2012, my at&t contract is up in Oct....(fingers crossed)
    1. Rob2G's Avatar
      Rob2G -
      I'm still standing by prediction that the iPhone 5 will be in stores between June 19-29.
    1. McMichael96's Avatar
      McMichael96 -
      be glad they didn't. The battery would have sucked more and would have been slow. Just like the 3G.

      Quote Originally Posted by whodatfan View Post
      Well, I'm on 5g so ya'll need to step up your game. Wha, wha????
      Since we are jumping the gun, lets talk about them new iPad 5's with 4D screens. I mean iPad 4's 3D screen was great but compaired to 4D it's crap.

      I got an iPhone 4 so I guess I am waiting until iPhone 6 with 5G or what ever is out by then.
    1. piston597's Avatar
      piston597 -
      Quote Originally Posted by IXAdamOwnzXI View Post
      why would Apple deploy an LTE phone as soon as 4G is rolled out. Apple always waits a year or two.
      What I mean is it's unlike them to implement the technology as soon as it's released
      Didn't they implement thunderbolt the same year it came out...? Idk but LTE sounds great but like most good things theres a catch...
    1. Riviera's Avatar
      Riviera -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      The iPhone 4 is not even the least bit outdated. It uses HSPA+ chips which AT&T isn't even done rolling out yet. They (AT&T) have upgraded their network from 7.2Mbps to 14.4Mbps HSPA+ over the last couple years. I think the iPhone needs an upgraded chipset to utilize 14.4Mbs instead of LTE at this point in time.
      One of the reasons for me to wait and to upgrade next year (2012).
      iPhone 4 is fast enough for now. There's no need to get iPhone 5 until AT&T is ready with its LTE technology.

      On the side note: I also think this was one of Apple strategy to launch CDMA iPhone 4 early this year. Apple has already planned to postpone iPhone 5 this summer. Why making changes on the iPhone 4 if the wireless carriers are not even ready yet to provide a faster network?

      So glad I ditched my 3G last year for iPhone 4 and not waiting for the white model.
    1. Rob2G's Avatar
      Rob2G -
      Besides the ugly buttons visible from the front of the phone, that mock up in the pic is the sexiest phone I have ever seen.
    1. Maxer95's Avatar
      Maxer95 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob2G View Post
      Besides the ugly buttons visible from the front of the phone, that mock up in the pic is the sexiest phone I have ever seen.
      Ya that and the fact the side profiles basicly blank
    1. BR0MERZ's Avatar
      BR0MERZ -
      This move wouldn't make any sense, why break the refresh cycle in order to add a feature that only America will be able to use, and even that will be limited use till 2013. The bidding or LTE network availability hasn't even begun yet in the UK.

      In my opinion it will be better to wait till next year when the feature can be used to greater effect.

      Hell do we even need to be up to date with all the technology?? We've had worse cameras and no flash for ages now yet we still prefer it over android and other competing OS'. what's one year without a feature that can only be utilised by a small percent of the Market?
    1. Ix_DUNKS_xI's Avatar
      Ix_DUNKS_xI -
      Quote Originally Posted by BR0MERZ View Post
      This move wouldn't make any sense, why break the refresh cycle in order to add a feature that only America will be able to use, and even that will be limited use till 2013. The bidding or LTE network availability hasn't even begun yet in the UK.

      In my opinion it will be better to wait till next year when the feature can be used to greater effect.

      Hell do we even need to be up to date with all the technology?? We've had worse cameras and no flash for ages now yet we still prefer it over android and other competing OS'. what's one year without a feature that can only be utilised by a small percent of the Market?
      I agree, I was Apple I wouldn't bother putting in LTE network technology, knowing that it would not be widely available for a couple of years, then put it in to iPhone 5 4G in 2012/13 assuming the next iPhone will be called the iPhone 5.
    1. y0ungSir's Avatar
      y0ungSir -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Y'all really need to do some research on Sprint's 4G WIMAX, Verizon's LTE, and AT&T's LTE networks. Real world tests don't show much speed increase if any over a high quality 3G network. T-Mobile is touting their network as 4G and AT&T is touting their HSPA+ network as 4G based on technicalities. The Atrix 4G on AT&T's LTE network is a huge fail when is came to actual data speeds. It's all marketing crap and the fact that most everyone here is begging for LTE without doing a shred of research of when it will be available in your market or how well it even works means that the marketing gimmicks are working.
      Dude, it is plausible that Appple will have 4g this year. Why? The answer is simple: Lightning Bolt. Apple released that tech when there is still no market for that tech. Most people, this website included, said it made no sense to include hardware that is still in its infancy. Do Apple need to release 4g now? Of course not, to be honest, Apple doesn't need to release 4g until 2013--the year it will cover most markets in the United States. But will they? I don't think so. Sometimes Apple considers the future, not only the present, and they think on a global perspective, not just a national one. I can't say it's definitive that 4g will release on the iPhone 5, but I will say that it is plausible.