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  • Delay in iPhone 5 Release May Have Something to Do With LTE


    The internet was abuzz with rumors of the past few days reporting that this year's Apple WWDC would not feature any new hardware, and would focus strictly on software (as the invitation suggests.) WWDC has been the place where the iPhone 3G, 3Gs, and 4 have all been announced, so it would seem likely that Apple would announce the fifth-generation iPhone at WWDC 2011. Many reports however, are now suggesting otherwise, but today TechCrunch has released a detailed report explaining what they believe to coming in iOS 5, and then continues to mention why we may not see an iPhone 5 at WWDC, and their answer is simple: LTE.

    LTE (short for Long Term Evolution) is the technology behind both AT&T's and Verizon's 4G network. Verizon is slightly ahead of their nemesis in their rollout schedule, but both companies should have much of the United States blanketed in 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon in fact, just released their first Android device that is capable of running on the new 4G network, and reviews have widely praised the incredible speed (particularly compared to other technologies that are being touted as '4G,' such as Sprint's WiMax and T-Mobile's HSPDA) that rivals home broadband. It may make sense for Apple to continue its work on 4G LTE over the summer, and then release one single device that was capable of running old protocols (GSM and CDMA) as well as LTE. In fact, Apple's current Qualcomm chip in the Verizon iPhone 4 is already capable of both GSM and CDMA. Apple just needs to redesign their antenna to accommodate it.

    This rumor makes the previous rumors of a delayed iPhone make a whole lot of sense. It also is in line with previous reports that the iPhone 5 will not see a significant exterior redesign (besides the occasional report of a four-inch screen- I wouldn't count on it.) This could be because the significant redesign would happen on the interior. TecCrunch is quick to point out that Apple COO "addressed the LTE topic directly," when he stated at the launch of the Verizon iPhone: " 'The first generation LTE chipsets force some design compromises. Some of which we would not make.' ”

    Apple is undoubtedly preparing an LTE iPhone, the question is whether we'll see it in the next revision of the iPhone or not. TechCrunch's analysts suggest a less than ten-percent chance of 4G LTE coming to the iPhone 5 if it gets released this summer, but a fifty-percent chance if the phone is released this fall. It may make sense for Apple to wait now, in order to truly provide a next-generation handset and not fall-behind by not including 4G LTE in the iPhone until summer 2012.

    Source:
    TechCrunch
    9to5Mac
    Engadget - Thunderbolt Review
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Delay in iPhone 5 Release May Have Something to Do With LTE started by Matt Savoca View original post
    Comments 74 Comments
    1. Bluemoldycheeze88's Avatar
      Bluemoldycheeze88 -
      I highly doubt it will have LTE support. That is why I'm going to wait for 6th generation iPhone before I upgrade.


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    1. RICO_'s Avatar
      RICO_ -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bluemoldycheeze88 View Post
      I highly doubt it will have LTE support. That is why I'm going to wait for 6th generation iPhone before I upgrade.


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      Somehow I think you're right. Why put it in this phone when you can just release it without it and with a few new features knowing sales will be through the roof.....and then release the same type of phone with 4g added the following year and further increase your sales numbers?
    1. hookedonkronix's Avatar
      hookedonkronix -
      Quote Originally Posted by mmurphmsu View Post
      So your saying the 3GS is greater than the iPhone 4???? I think you meant 3GS
      I believe his arrows mean "from this to that"
    1. jmaderosk8r's Avatar
      jmaderosk8r -
      Last i heard, a while back it had been said that 4G would not be implemented on the iphone 5 (or whatever it will be called, because some ppl get upset that some of us call it the iphone 5) well anyways i knew a bunch of ppl that have the EVO and have NEVER used 4G. If you want 4g speeds and live in a 4G area then get a different phone and stop complaining that the next iphone NEEDS 4G. My brother has dsl and everytime i go to his house i connect to my iphone because its faster than his crappy DSL so im happy with the speeds. Apple will wait like they always do, why put 4g and make the phone itself laggy, id rather have them keep it at 3G with the upgraded chipset, dual core, and more ram. Heck id still but the next iphone if it had the same specs as the 4 haha
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by RICO_ View Post
      Somehow I think you're right. Why put it in this phone when you can just release it without it and with a few new features knowing sales will be through the roof.....and then release the same type of phone with 4g added the following year and further increase your sales numbers?
      That sounds about right to me. I will only upgrade to the iPhone 5 if it has at least a 4 inch screen. No screen increase = no upgrade. That was the same philosophy I shared with the iPad 2 release because a screen upgrade is the only thing that's worth upgrading to. That's the biggest cost benefit increase in IMO.

      I could care less about about processor, storage, ram, or camera upgrades. Just give me one of those previously mentioned along with screen upgrade and I'm sold.
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Quote Originally Posted by hookedonkronix View Post
      I believe his arrows mean "from this to that"
      Thank you lol. Some people interpret things a bit to literally. In the future maybe I'll use "---->"
    1. i3urger's Avatar
      i3urger -
      Quote Originally Posted by IXAdamOwnzXI View Post
      why would Apple deploy an LTE phone as soon as 4G is rolled out. Apple always waits a year or two.
      What I mean is it's unlike them to implement the technology as soon as it's released
      Wrong they released the new lighting technology when it came out on the refreshed Macs pros besides 4G has been out quite some time just ask Sprint.
    1. wolverinemarky's Avatar
      wolverinemarky -
      well if the iphone 5 will have LTE i can wait for it but if they release it in fall without LTE i will be really mad that we had to wait and it doesnt have it in there. Yea LTE is in a small handful of markets however all the newer phones are touting 4G 4G so Apple wants to be able to tout it too that way all the android people can say well i have flash i have flash and thats the only thing i have. although i would like apple to see what the EVO 3D is doing that phone is gonna be some kick *** competition if it ever leaves sprint. Just saying rather have my iPhone 5 but the EVO 3D is hardcore
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Y'all really need to do some research on Sprint's 4G WIMAX, Verizon's LTE, and AT&T's LTE networks. Real world tests don't show much speed increase if any over a high quality 3G network. T-Mobile is touting their network as 4G and AT&T is touting their HSPA+ network as 4G based on technicalities. The Atrix 4G on AT&T's LTE network is a huge fail when is came to actual data speeds. It's all marketing crap and the fact that most everyone here is begging for LTE without doing a shred of research of when it will be available in your market or how well it even works means that the marketing gimmicks are working.
    1. glassJAw's Avatar
      glassJAw -
      Quote Originally Posted by StellarZ View Post
      Anyone else think that mocup is SEXY!?
      Oh snaps! Your avatar just reminded me how much I need to start listening to circa survive again. Anyways back on topic! LTE till 2013? Gosh damnˇ and like someone said before apple would release an LTE iPhone a year after.
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      4G won't be available in my area for another 5 years or more, most likely. I'm still waiting for FIOs, but that seems unlikely to make it's way here for a decade.
    1. wolverinemarky's Avatar
      wolverinemarky -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Y'all really need to do some research on Sprint's 4G WIMAX, Verizon's LTE, and AT&T's LTE networks. Real world tests don't show much speed increase if any over a high quality 3G network. T-Mobile is touting their network as 4G and AT&T is touting their HSPA+ network as 4G based on technicalities. The Atrix 4G on AT&T's LTE network is a huge fail when is came to actual data speeds. It's all marketing crap and the fact that most everyone here is begging for LTE without doing a shred of research of when it will be available in your market or how well it even works means that the marketing gimmicks are working.
      we all know its not real 4G dude we have been over that but there calling it 4G so thats what were going with that way theres no confusion of what is being talked about. My brother has his Evo on sprints 4G and he gets 7-9mbps thats 2x faster then my fastest 3G on AT&T so its more then just a minor upgrade in speed. I dont have a "4G" iPhone yet so i cant compare that with AT&T "4G"
    1. Evilsaint's Avatar
      Evilsaint -
      Darn,I was looking forward to the upgrade if it's delayed I hope it's for good reasons and not for 3d :P
    1. RICO_'s Avatar
      RICO_ -
      Why does my 3G speed fluctuate all the time? Usually the upload speed is pretty consistent....but lately the Download speed has been all over the place. I'll run a test and it will be 1400kbps or so......a few seconds later I'll run another test and it will be in the toilet at 200 or 300 kbps.
    1. shirwan72's Avatar
      shirwan72 -
      Great, a rumour on top of another rumour!
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Even if Apple didn't make the i5 LTE capable it wouldn't really matter, 4G is going to be pretty spotty for a couple of years. So there's no rush to have it in the next device. If they do then sweet, if they don't...that's cool too.
    1. Educational_Geek's Avatar
      Educational_Geek -
      Personally, why not put it in the next iteration. If you make it backwards compatible with current network technology there's no reason not to do it.

      Also, if Apple wants to keep up with all the Android phones they NEED to release another one this summer if only with the A5 Processor....
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Quote Originally Posted by wolverinemarky View Post
      we all know its not real 4G dude we have been over that but there calling it 4G so thats what were going with that way theres no confusion of what is being talked about. My brother has his Evo on sprints 4G and he gets 7-9mbps thats 2x faster then my fastest 3G on AT&T so its more then just a minor upgrade in speed. I dont have a "4G" iPhone yet so i cant compare that with AT&T "4G"
      Now you're comparing two completely different types of technology. Sprints 4G WIMAX isn't nearly the same as LTE. You can't compare download speeds on a network that isn't even designed for the iPhone either. The Atrix 4G on AT&T is a true 4G LTE phone and gets worse data transfer rates than the 3G network. So people who THINK they want their iPhone to be 4G capable need to realize the infrastructure isn't there yet!
    1. iBwizzle's Avatar
      iBwizzle -
      Faster speeds without unlimited data is a total joke... Google, please buy T-Mobile and show them how it's done!
    1. howlett15's Avatar
      howlett15 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Y'all really need to do some research on Sprint's 4G WIMAX, Verizon's LTE, and AT&T's LTE networks. Real world tests don't show much speed increase if any over a high quality 3G network. T-Mobile is touting their network as 4G and AT&T is touting their HSPA+ network as 4G based on technicalities. The Atrix 4G on AT&T's LTE network is a huge fail when is came to actual data speeds. It's all marketing crap and the fact that most everyone here is begging for LTE without doing a shred of research of when it will be available in your market or how well it even works means that the marketing gimmicks are working.
      Would you care to direct those of us who haven't researched the so-called "4G" networks to some informative links that you have found worthy?
      I'm surprised there haven't been any false advertisement suits against these carriers if it's not truly 4G.