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  • A Bad Week for Palm Pre... Thanks to Apple?



    Something tells us here at ModMyi that the folks at Palm are glad this week is over.

    As if Palm's announcement of lowered guidance yesterday wasn't bad enough, the real kicker came today - an occasion that Palm probably had higher expectations for. This morning, Palm said their Pre devices will receive a WebOS 1.4 update later today. If you haven't heard, that update includes Adobe's Flash 10 player.

    Shortly after the announcement, however, everyone turned their attention to Apple. Why? Because we will soon see how well Flash works on the Palm Pre. With Steve Jobs's controversial (and disparaging) comments recently about Flash being a battery killer, everyone is going to take note of how well the Palm Pre performs now that it is Flash compatible.

    Of course, it's unlikely that the outcome of Flash's test drive on the Palm Pre will ultimately have any influence on whether Apple will ever openly embrace Flash. Still, it's fascinating to watch every contemporary conversation about Flash somehow return to the subject of Apple. On a day when the Palm Pre should be basking in the limelight for its Flash update, here we are talking about Apple - and not just in these forums. Pretty much everywhere.

    With Apple earnings perpetually blowing Palm's out of the water and updates from Palm leading to more talk about Apple than Palm, it must be quite a frustrating time within the walls of Palm these days. Is Apple responsible for Palm's problems? No. But Apple certainly isn't helping either.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: A Bad Week for Palm Pre... Thanks to Apple? started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 33 Comments
    1. mofolo's Avatar
      mofolo -
      oh snap! Good work Pre.
    1. Evilsaint's Avatar
      Evilsaint -
      @Ibwizzle anytime
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      I think regardless of the outcome Steve Jobs isn't going to put flash on the iPhone, and honestly, he doesn't need to. The iPhone is going to sell regardless if it has flash or not, everyone at Apple knows this. I personally think it doesn't matter, I do think they definitely need multi-tasking though, no reason not to have it now.
    1. mprziv's Avatar
      mprziv -
      Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
      So the Pre getting an update and getting Flash is bad for Palm? Did I miss something?
      This. I mean, wtf?

      Pre gets an update that allows the device to use flash, this is bad for Palm why exactly?
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by mprziv View Post
      This. I mean, wtf?

      Pre gets an update that allows the device to use flash, this is bad for Palm why exactly?
      It helps to read the thread to find out.

      Also, HTML5 (which the iPhone does support) can get away with a lot of the things flash is known for. There are so obvious disadvantages at the time (input being the main one, the majority of the html5 demos online use mouse input to dragging and clicking, which isn't possible with the iPhone (right now) even though the app itself work and loads on it.

      For example, the Gmail web app is based on HTML5 and allows for offline storage of recently opened mail/folders which you can browse and sort through while in airplane mode. There's a lot more support growing for HTML5, which can and should (hopefully) replace flash.
    1. robotphood's Avatar
      robotphood -
      Pre notifications, multi-tasking, and gestures would make the iphone that much better. Don't have one myself (ipt user) but I'd heavily consider it if available in June. As for flash, I just don't see it happening for apple regardless of how well it turns out for webos/android. I'd definitely want it, but I've lived without it so it's not a dealbreaker.
    1. billchase2's Avatar
      billchase2 -
      I still don't get this obsession with Flash. I agree with Steve... it's an outdated technology that is dying a slow death. I don't miss it on my iPhone at all.
    1. Bluprint's Avatar
      Bluprint -
      update, the new palm 2.0 is already out.

      Mess is always reporting some dumb news, they should get rid of the guy already. The pre gets an update and Apple takes the spotlight because they don't support flash?.. it doesn't make any sense to have this as featured news..
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      how do you like them apples?
    1. Kroo's Avatar
      Kroo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
      Must be. My Droid just showed up and within 10 minutes of turning it on for the first time I'm absolutely in love, more so than I ever was when I first got an iPhone. I'm rooting it right now. It's insanely fast. I can't wait for Flash!

      Anyone want a brand new 16GB white iPhone 3G?
      Now you've dumped the iPhone, we won't have to put up with your troll talk about flash and Apple. Don't let the door hit your ASSS on the way out trollboy!! Hehe. GOODBYE!

      Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
      I'm all for it as well, but I also think that the support should be there for the current technology, and not bank on what's going to be popular a few years down the road.

      As far as Flash on a Mac, I believe I read somewhere that Uncle Steve didn't give Adobe a whole lot to work with in the first place as far as coding and such, and they had to make it work on what they were given, which of course didn't work all that great once applied. I don't know how true it is, but it's just what I've heard out there.
      Oh trollboy, why are you still here? TROLL. Where is your evidence "you believe you read somewhere", what, on the Adobe website? EVERY third party coder get a copy of the OSX SDK release ahead of everybody else, so they can write their program to match the OS. All you have to do is sign on as a developer, it's that simple. I know. I develop and get these releases. What, can't Adobe sign up for free to get the SDK. Stop trolling and apologising for crap development by Adobe, fanboy. Now seeing as you have nothing constructive to contribute, take your toys and your droid and pi$$ off!
    1. Kroo's Avatar
      Kroo -
      Pity you could never back your trash talk with any facts. It only make you look like a bigger fool. Adios trollboy.
    1. Go Gators's Avatar
      Go Gators -
      Why is this a bad week for the Palm Pre? I don't get this article at all. If I owned a Pre I would be really excited about getting Flash. That's one of the big negatives with the iPhone. IMO Steve Jobs shouldn't be the one that decide's whether I have Flash on my iPhone or not. It's my damn iPhone and if I want to have Flash installed and live with the shorter battery life then I should have that option. Steve Jobs is just a Control Freak!
    1. SquareWheel's Avatar
      SquareWheel -
      That makes me think of this:



      Except it's Steve Jobs, and the other guys are implementing Flash.