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  • Cycorder - Superior Free Video Recorder for 3G and 2.x


    Jay Freeman (aka Saurik), author of Cydia and WinterBoard, Friday released Cycorder (website not REALLY there yet. ), a FREE native iPhone video recorder application. The release comes hot on the tails of DreamCatcher's 2.x release of their $19.95 iPhone Video Recorder software, and is superior in many aspects.

    Before, I get into the details, here's a sample video recorded with Cycorder.

    [ame]http://saurik.cachefly.net/cycorder.mov[/ame]

    Quality on the videos is much higher than iPhone Video Recorder's movies, due to Saurik's use of MJPEG compression - the same compression used in the majority of point and shoot digital camera's with video support. Oh, and there is no waiting 3 times as long as your video length after you record before the video compresses and lets you watch it (as Showtime did, in 1.x firmwares - its not yet out for 2.x iPhones) - when you finish recording a video with Cycorder, you can immediately play the video back.

    The video playback list has a slick first-frame thumbnail shown for each video you've taken, vs just a listing of the time's of each video as competing video recorders have (MUCH easier to tell which video is which - if you record several videos in an evening or day, the times really don't help you much at all later).

    Videos are recorded at 384x288, a 4x3 aspect ratio. Depending on how well lit the area is, videos are recorded at between 6-15 fps. Saurik notes that the large variance of fps is due to the iPhone camera, which when video is recorded is basically taking pictures as fast as it can and when you take those photos the camera has to open its shutter, let in the light that makes up the photo, and close the shutter. The less light, the longer it takes to do that. So, better lighting equals higher quality fps, and therefore smoother videos.

    The UI is done in landscape mode, and is extremely simple and easy to use - press the large center button on the right (bottom if the iPhone is held vertically) to record/stop recording, and press the small arrow to open up your playback list. Saurik mentioned he's looking at ways to even have the videos show up in your iPod Videos list once recorded in Cycorder.

    Update!!!! Cycorder now includes audio

    Cycorder can be downloaded now from Cydia (its on the Featured Packages list on the front page of Cydia, or in the Multimedia section. I'd definitely recommend it - the video quality is the best out there, and audio will be included shortly.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Cycorder - Superior Free Video Recorder for 3G and 2.x started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 333 Comments
    1. bschucher's Avatar
      bschucher -
      Quote Originally Posted by silent revolt View Post
      yo warning to the not so wise...do not video the sun or point the camera at bright lights when recording it could harm your camera i didnt do this madness but some people might there should be a little warning: do not point at lights while filming somwhere just a heads up it shouldnt destory the thing but it might hurt it in the long run

      Maybe my ignorance but i've never heard such a thing.. Care to explain the etiology of the damage here?
    1. RompaRoomGang's Avatar
      RompaRoomGang -
      Quote Originally Posted by saurik View Post
      Unfortunately, yes. I actually tried to put Cycorder in the App Store: after waiting over a month for Apple to even acknowledge my application I'm giving up.

      One question I'd have: why do you say "unsupported"? App Store applications are supported in the same way as those you get from any other source: via their developers. Apple can't (and doesn't) mandate any specific performance metrics on the support you get from an App Store application.



      I'm glad someone noticed that ;P. That was a feature I added at the last second. I originally targeted Cycorder to be sold in App Store, and running when you close is definitely verboten in that context (although, really, using device drivers and the camera buffers is as well, but I figured I'd limit the arguments against it).

      I then worked on other things for a month while I waited for Apple to tell me if I could get it in App Store, and when I gave up I decided "what's a cute jailbreak-only feature I could add?". It /does/ provide at least some feedback, though, by adding a "REC" badge over the Cycorder icon if its recording in the background.



      Yeah, I definitely accept donations ;P. (To be quite frank, I'm not certain why that would be a feature: someone who decides to kill himself to build things and refuses to accept any compensation, even though compensation would let him do more of what he's doing and be more effective while doing it, and even when that compensation is freely donated... I'd argue that such a person is just stupid and is hurting everyone by turning down that resource.)
      Thanks so much, I am patiently awaiting audio and ready to donate

      Best video reorder hands down!!!! Quality is amazing!
    1. cartman13's Avatar
      cartman13 -
      How doe the add model work? do i have to click on it for saurik to receive compensation? I'd just do that a couple times a day if necessary to help out.

      Or do i just have to have the program on?
    1. RompaRoomGang's Avatar
      RompaRoomGang -
      I somehow missed this in the original post, but this would be the sh-t......



      Quote Originally Posted by poetic_folly View Post
      Saurik mentioned he's looking at ways to even have the videos show up in your iPod Videos list once recorded in Cycorder.
    1. siksik6's Avatar
      siksik6 -
      I'd like the OPTION to do that, but wouldn't want them in there automatically.

      Quite happy having them in Cycorder for now.
    1. playboii's Avatar
      playboii -
      i had quite alot of fun with this application this weekend! can't wait for audio!
    1. mik3y08's Avatar
      mik3y08 -
      Can you please please please update and make this compatible with app flow. Im seriously begging
    1. loujob's Avatar
      loujob -
      In theory and practice h264 has superior quality over mjpeg. Only way that it may seem better is either a placebo effect or iphonevideorecorder's encoding scheme isn't efficient.
    1. tha5150's Avatar
      tha5150 -
      ok so I understand you can ssh into the phone to get the movies. Isn't there away to have these show up like pictures do when you first plug the phone in? Maybe have the pic and movies be in the same or different folders but giving you an easier solution to retrieving the clips.
      Great app don't get me wrong. Just would make more sense.
    1. sr852's Avatar
      sr852 -
      GREAT app!!!! Is it possible to include a function that allows you to zoom in?????
    1. neox's Avatar
      neox -
      can someone provide the 'Cycorder.app" (with proper permissions); had issues loading Cydia, and now broke it completely :-(
    1. exNavy's Avatar
      exNavy -
      Quote Originally Posted by silent revolt; View Post
      yo warning to the not so wise...do not video the sun or point the camera at bright lights when recording it could harm your camera i didnt do this madness but some people might there should be a little warning: do not point at lights while filming somwhere just a heads up it shouldnt destory the thing but it might hurt it in the long run
      With tube based video cameras you couldn't do this because you would literally burn a blue spot into anything you shot with this camera from then on. Once CCD cameras came out, you could get away with this.

      Show me a technical analysis of this weakness as it applies to cell phone cameras and I'll believe it.
    1. saurik's Avatar
      saurik -
      Quote Originally Posted by loujob View Post
      In theory and practice h264 has superior quality over mjpeg. Only way that it may seem better is either a placebo effect or iphonevideorecorder's encoding scheme isn't efficient.
      I will not claim to know much about h.264. All I can say is that IVR has the following problems: 1) color balance is off (kind of reddish) 2) picture is very grainy and artifact-y 3) it doesn't handle sudden lighting changes well. It sounds, from your statement, like you haven't actually looked at it yourself (or you'd be making statements more like "IVR's video quality is actually just as good" rather than statements like "the algorithm IVR is using should be just as good" ;P).
    1. retro13's Avatar
      retro13 -
      thanks
      works great
    1. bhz1's Avatar
      bhz1 -
      I am totally wowed by this app. Thanks Saurik! Sound and a zoom would make it 110% perfect.
    1. sotacram's Avatar
      sotacram -
      Thank you Saurik for a wonderful application!
    1. LaZARuZ's Avatar
      LaZARuZ -
      You can't have zoom to this it will look like garbage. Just look at snapture zoom that's how it will turn out too. So leave zoom out.
    1. M4tt Dam0n's Avatar
      M4tt Dam0n -
      Quote Originally Posted by LaZARuZ View Post
      You can't have zoom to this it will look like garbage. Just look at snapture zoom that's how it will turn out too. So leave zoom out.
      Ya all zoom does is take a smaller part of what the cam sees and stretch it. The iPhone's cam is not capable of optic zoom.
    1. remf's Avatar
      remf -
      Quote Originally Posted by bhz1 View Post
      ...a zoom would make it 110% perfect.
      You could try this!

      DealExtreme: $14.09 Conice 6x18 Zoom Attachment for iPhone
    1. Nefarious's Avatar
      Nefarious -
      grabbing it now