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  • Apple Knows (and Tells) Where You Are

    According to Apple’s new privacy policy, the company claims the right to obtain “the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device” and share it with “partners and licensees.” Nicole Martinelli over at Cult of Mac reports on an LA Times story highlighting the change in the document, which specifically mentions the Find My iPhone app as an example, but is carefully vague about whether Apple collects your location data even when that app or any other location aware app is running. Apple has not responded my request for comment yet.

    Though Apple says the data is all “collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you,” there is no way of opting out of having your location data collected: by clicking OK on Terms and Conditions when you install Apple software, you are explicitly giving Apple the right to let its partners know where you are and where you've been. I've also asked Apple if turning off Location Services (under Settings:General) will prevent any data from being collected (of course, this would also cripple Maps and any other location-aware app).

    The New "Location-based Services" section in Apple's Privacy Policy reads, in part:

    To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based products and services. For example, we may share geographic location with application providers when you opt in to their location services.
    Some location-based services offered by Apple, such as the MobileMe “Find My iPhone” feature, require your personal information for the feature to work.
    As many have noted, Google has been doing this from the start with Android, so maybe it's not that much to worry about. Still, Apple has been pulling patents for location-based ad services, for example, that could become increasingly intrusive, and it seems like opting out isn't as straightforward as we've been led to believe.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Knows (and Tells) Where You Are started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 32 Comments
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Because it's a bad joke.
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Well I will like to see where this ends up!

      I am retired not but when I was working, largest Railroad in US, we had company cellphones.

      To start with was the old anique type.

      When the company upgrade, many times, we were brought into the age where the phone company could tell your location.

      This worried a lot of us as sometimes we were not where we were suppose to be.

      I did some checking and talked to some police friends and telephone friends.

      I don't know if anything has changed or not but I was told that the only way the company could check and see where any employee was if the company had a Federal Search Warrant, and Federal Judges would half to have a good reason to issue a warrant. Federal govern us because we were Federally Regulated. Don't know about others!

      So in ending I don't think this will pan out, unless things have changed and sometimes they do, Feds like to appease large corprations!

      The only way I think they can do this is with each of our agreement to let them, and my answer is h*** no, as its none of Apples business where I am!

      This is just past experience and it may have changed and its JMO

      Be glad if somebody can find out what they can do now!
    1. jbode4's Avatar
      jbode4 -
      can you disable Location Services altogether by going into SpringBoard.app and into the N45AP.plist for example?
    1. patrick_ath's Avatar
      patrick_ath -
      opt out is working today

    1. LGgeek's Avatar
      LGgeek -
      Quote Originally Posted by Imsorussian View Post
      Everybody knows where everyone is why not apple? Please who cares well if u not a criminal or a child molester why would u care if apple knows where u go? Btw apple ill be at apple store in thursday so im giving u headsup
      To quote Ben Franklin,

      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

      also you might look up "..and then came for me.."
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      This is a breach of human rights(a.k.a freedom) and should be fought by all who don't want this big brother/ nanny state
    1. robertr1's Avatar
      robertr1 -
      This is very intrusive and uncalled for. It doesn't bother me too much though because I don't plan on breaking into a restricted area and killing someone any time soon.
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      ^no but somebody who has your location might want to kill you
    1. robertr1's Avatar
      robertr1 -
      ^I know I've been hiding from my enemies for a while now. But seriously if someone really wanted to know where I am to kill me there are easier ways then asking apple.
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      are you sure


      I bob I'm an internet trader (smart psychopath)

      bob; hello Appl£ I see you have a "person" I would like to sell something(a free ticket to the after life) to, can I have there location information

      Appl£; why sure here you go

      maybe a few more hoops to jump through but you get the picture

      Yes this is really exaggerated but not impossible
    1. robertr1's Avatar
      robertr1 -
      haha ya that's true but I really hope there's nobody out there that determined to kill me. I'm guessing apple is just in control freak mode.
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      Appl£ make great products then ruin it by being a$$hol£s they suck