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  • Apple Cries Itself a River Over iPhone Leak



    If you haven't already determined from the fallout from the 4th gen iPhone leak and subsequent legal fiasco, Apple is more than just angry about "Gizmodo-gate." Apple is also "injured" and still reeling from "huge" losses incurred from the iPhone debacle. As my MMI colleague Paul covered in great detail on Friday, a San Mateo judge has unsealed documents connected to the lost/stolen prototype iPhone. And apart from the case details chronicled in the documents, many noticed something else in the papers and discussed it widely across the blogosphere this weekend: Apple complains a lot.

    "Whine, whine, whine" is what some perceive Apple to be doing on a perpetual basis in the wake of the leak. In the documents, Apple uses strong language to assert how "immensely damaging" the fiasco proved to be for the company. A representative for Apple was quoted saying the following:

    "By publishing details about the phone and its features, sales of current Apple products are hurt wherein people that [sic] would have otherwise purchased a currently existing Apple product would wait for the next item to be released, thereby hurting overall sales and negatively effecting [sic] Apple's earnings."
    Hurt Apple's earnings? It's an argument that's difficult for some to swallow, particularly given the daily barrage of headlines in recent days about how the iPhone has steadily overtaken the great majority of its competitors and effectively squashed their chances of becoming the "iPhone killer." In fact, a great many industry analysts even argue that the scandal was "helpful" to Apple because of the awareness and hype it has generated in current and future iPhone models. And if you've read anything about Apple's earnings in recent quarters, does it look like Cupertino is poised to suffer any real damages to the runaway train that is Apple's revenue express?

    Strangely enough, of all the things Apple has done that could understandably rub people the wrong way, these "complaints" have apparently done more to annoy some Apple fans than just about anything else Cupertino has done lately.

    Even when it comes to the tech giants among us, nobody likes a whiner.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Cries Itself a River Over iPhone Leak started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 92 Comments
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      I think people who read tech blogs already were going to wait for the new iPhone. Most people have not heard about this leak and will go ahead and buy the current model.
      I kinda have to agree with the guy above me, Stealth. I mean, this story had a video report on CNN. My grandpap, who doesn't know how to turn a computer on, knew about "that new iPhone."
    1. aperry's Avatar
      aperry -
      Hmmmm....

      1) Steve Jobs publicly states that the next iPhone is an "A+ upgrade" (or whatever exciting marketing description he gave to get us all psyched about it)
      2) Someone finds the phone and publishes the new features.
      3) Apple complains that people don't want to buy the current phones now because the next version is too exciting.

      Sorry, but if Apple is concerned about iPhone 3GS sales then I'm not sure why Steve Jobs was out there hyping the next generation iPhone long before this leak happened. This is truly ridiculous.
    1. szfebje's Avatar
      szfebje -
      Quote Originally Posted by darkrom View Post
      I'm gunna be blunt because most people seem to shy away from saying this so instead of biting your tongue just press thanks if you agree to this.

      Apple's products are what they are and love them or hate them it's up to you. One thing is a fact. They as a business are a bunch of whiny *******. Steve jobs is an egomaniac who won't address the consumers and does everything according to "his visions". If Apple pulled its head out of its own *** for long enough to care what people want they would be a MUCH better company all around. Instead of keeping the iphone "the way steve envisions it" if they allowed themes maybe even 1% of the customer base would not jailbreak. Maybe if they allowed other simple things like backgrounding (which i use DAILY on ALL apps...once again not just the ones THEY want backgrounded) maybe another 1-2% of people wouldn't jailbreak. These 1% numbers add up. These are all people forced to jailbreak due to pathetic trivial restrictions. Now that you've FORCED us to jailbreak do you really find it shocking that people pirate apps? You brought it on yourself. You keep pushing people back and they will snap back like a rubber band in the other direction.

      Apple's products are not involved in this post. The point is as a company and as people in general they are nothing but ******* who can't stop crying about everything.

      I wish there was some way to show this exact post to Steve Jobs. Given a chance to talk to him directly I would gladly explain why his closed mindedness and fascist way of trying to monopolize all technology will eventually bite him in the ***. I don't care how many millions the company makes this year, Apple's business practices and closed minds ARE hurting the progression of technology.
      it's obvious you can't see the forest past the trees..

      Apple doesn't force anyone to jailbreak, just like they don't force you to purchase their products, as "crippled" as many claim iDevices are, they still sell far more than their competition, with REPEAT buyers, I highly doubt that Apple's target usergroup will discontinue using the iPhone because you can't use custom themes or listen to Pandora while browsing on Safari (even though Pandora already has the app which supports this on standby for OS 4)

      The average user doesn't care about jailbreaking, they care about a seamless user experience where everything "just works" and the iPhone delivers that beautifully.

      You sir need an Android.

      Quote Originally Posted by aperry View Post
      Hmmmm....

      1) Steve Jobs publicly states that the next iPhone is an "A+ upgrade" (or whatever exciting marketing description he gave to get us all psyched about it)
      2) Someone finds the phone and publishes the new features.
      3) Apple complains that people don't want to buy the current phones now because the next version is too exciting.

      Sorry, but if Apple is concerned about iPhone 3GS sales then I'm not sure why Steve Jobs was out there hyping the next generation iPhone long before this leak happened. This is truly ridiculous.
      Ummm, he was referring to the next software update, hence it being the iPhone OS4 event, not the "iPhone HD4Gwtfbbq 4GS", he never once mentioned anything about a release date of a new phone nor did he once acknowledge that one even existed in the first place... try again.
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      Quote Originally Posted by aperry View Post
      I'm not sure why Steve Jobs was out there hyping the next generation iPhone long before this leak happened. This is truly ridiculous.
      He wasn't "out there." That whole "A+ upgrade" business was nothing more than a "was reported as saying" kind of deal from an inside meeting.
    1. tcunningham1589's Avatar
      tcunningham1589 -
      I don't know how releasing pictures/video of a prototype hurts the sales of the phone, when it's released it'll still be bought by millions. It'll probably hurt their stock, but who cares about that.. lol
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      Quote Originally Posted by tcunningham1589 View Post
      I don't know how releasing pictures/video of a prototype hurts the sales of the phone
      How many 3G S phones do you think they've sold in the past few weeks?
    1. atm_10142k's Avatar
      atm_10142k -
      Quote Originally Posted by santacruzlocal View Post
      When is this story going to go away? Does anyone really care? Is this just being post because there is nothing to report?
      I agree, this story is getting really really really old. Don't know why its surfacing again. Its the media outlet, forums like this one that just does not seem to want to drop this issue.
    1. Sonofevil77's Avatar
      Sonofevil77 -
      I am sick of Apple and their whining and Nazi like posturing. I personally am going to get the HTC Evo and get rid of my iPhone early and finally say goodbye to At&t for lying to me for 5 years about 3g finally coming to my area of Orange County NY. PEACE BIOTCHES!
    1. extremzocker's Avatar
      extremzocker -
      Apple's keynote will be interesting... Jobs will be pissed because he cant do "One last thing" speach.
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by santacruzlocal View Post
      When is this story going to go away? Does anyone really care? Is this just being post because there is nothing to report?
      Well, it is a Messany article..
    1. screamforme02's Avatar
      screamforme02 -
      i have been waiting for this phone since they tried to sell up the 3gs from my 3g. its been 2 years and its now an actuall up grade, bout time apple. but it may be a little to late, android is looking pretty sweet. WebOS is looking even sweeter with HP behind it now.. UHooo Apple better step up the game
    1. jaminmc's Avatar
      jaminmc -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      I think people who read tech blogs already were going to wait for the new iPhone. Most people have not heard about this leak and will go ahead and buy the current model.
      This leak didn't change any possibility of a new sale from me, because I have had my 3Gs since Aug 23rd, 2009. So It does make me look forward to the next one, although I will have to wait till Aug, 23rd for the fully reduced price.

      Quote Originally Posted by n00neimp0rtant View Post
      How many 3G S phones do you think they've sold in the past few weeks?
      Probably a lot more since the Spirit JB came out

      Besides, Apple is reeling the $$$$ on the iPad now....
    1. bignighttrain's Avatar
      bignighttrain -
      Apple is right about the sales I have an iPhone 3GS and my wife an iPhone 3G she was going to get the 3GS but after the hype about the iPhone HD she kept her 500.00$ and is waiting for the relase of the new iPhone HD this summer. I'm sure other people are doing the same as articles on MMI state.
    1. kingbijan's Avatar
      kingbijan -
      lol they're gonna sell this phone for like 900 dollars...3gs is like 450 if you look in the right places, im sure they will make even more money from people waiting on the new phone. STOP ******** STEVE YOU ******* PUSSY!
    1. I Am Zak's Avatar
      I Am Zak -
      Im glad there whining!
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      =''[
    1. aomphantom's Avatar
      aomphantom -
      I Wish GeoHot Would develop his own phone! THAT WOULD BE A TRUE iPhone Killer! All those in favor of GeoHot and the likes of him to get together and create some Amazing Phone Say I! At least Droid is open and I really hope for something that will kill the iPhone and make Apple humble, they are the Communist Party of Technology!
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by aomphantom View Post
      I Wish GeoHot Would develop his own phone! THAT WOULD BE A TRUE iPhone Killer! All those in favor of GeoHot and the likes of him to get together and create some Amazing Phone Say I! At least Droid is open and I really hope for something that will kill the iPhone and make Apple humble, they are the Communist Party of Technology!
      sigh.. and I suppose Saurik should run Apple, huh?
    1. thetoothfairy's Avatar
      thetoothfairy -
      Good then maybe EVERYONE will be able to upgrade through At&t when it is released...
    1. hollow0's Avatar
      hollow0 -
      Quote Originally Posted by iLaw-One View Post
      Can Apple for once just STFU???:: Serves them right that the leak happened!! They've been ripping us off for these past years by releasing crap and leaving out the features we want the most, and each frigging time, touting their junk as 'the most advanced bulls**t!!!

      I hope they suffer immense loss by no one buying their existing crap iphones until the 4G is released...::

      Oh crap...they'll just overprice the 4G in order to recoup their 'presummed loss'...and guess who foots the bill?? We the consumers...

      Apple should just do us all a favour and release the damn phone...my contract's already run out and I'm running out of patience with the waiting
      If you owned an actual business to make money and had trade secrets you would understand their position. Since you don't that's why you're now an angry fool who's also whining. If you can't wait 1 month than that's your problem. Just shut up and leave already.