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  • Appsidy Shuts Down


    Appsidy, the in-Cydia payment system alternative to the Cydia Store, is shutting down.

    Opened a little before Christmas 2009, less than half a year later marks the close of the Appsidy store. Recent Cydia updates addressing privacy (Appsidy used the UUID of your device to verify sales, as does the Cydia Store) broke Appsidy's ability to function well within Cydia, and after discussing the situation, they've decided to toss in the towel.

    Users who have purchased items through Appsidy will still be able to access those packages, either through Rock.app, or the Cydia Store should the developers/artists of those packages choose to move to Cydia Store. My inbox is flooded with folks asking to do so.

    In an email sent earlier today, Appsidy had this to say about previous purchases:

    There will be two options for users to obtain their previous purchases:

    1) Rock Store: Users using Google account/rock id -- These users will be able to login to Rock and simply install their package from there (assuming your package is available in the Rock Store).
    2) Cydia Store: Developers who migrate their packages into Cydia Store -- the Cydia Store will perform a lookup against our database and those who have purchased in the past will retain their license.
    So no one should lose anything.

    Rock.app is still around doing it's thing, but Appsidy is no more.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Appsidy Shuts Down started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 47 Comments
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      curious if the cydia [no rock] packages will be affected?
    1. SAVAGE5's Avatar
      SAVAGE5 -
      I agree, some apps you have to pay for in Cydia are straight garbage.
    1. soulthoughts's Avatar
      soulthoughts -
      Quote Originally Posted by OneRing2Rule View Post
      Huh, what about devs who freakin' LIE to people after putting out some lame little video recorder example and then dress up their website, saying ooooooh, look. I've got the very first iPhone video recorder app almost ready to go. Lots of us oldtimers gave you money f in the beginning of the jailbreak game. You promised the world and delivered nothing.

      Excuse me. You did take some pretty pix of a Mac conference that we financed. Yeah this was two years ago, but I don't forget screwjobs.

      You can joke about the Kanye West of programming thing, but drunknbass, you just flat out committed theft by fraud.

      You owe me $25.00. [email protected] on Paypal

      Cough it up.

      I was waiting on this....
    1. phoenix3200's Avatar
      phoenix3200 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      I agree. I hope people realize that saurik gets a healthy percentage of cydia store sales (+/- 30%). Saurik gives bigger sales percentages to devs who stay exclusive to the cydia store and refuse to go to rock. I don't have a problem with this at all but calling rock money hungry is laughable.
      30% is standard operating procedure in software circles. When you factor in VAT taxes (which it's doubtful that Rock et al. pays), server costs (saurik pays a lot per month so the world over can have good access to his software), and PayPal fees, saurik doesn't earn anywhere close to 30%. I'm also unsure as to where you get the exclusivity info from; as far as I know, saurik hasn't cut any such deals.

      Rock et al. is most definitely in it for the money. While it may not be as apparent now, Rock was built with one sole purpose: to sell software. The ability to use distributed sources (e.g. repos), etc. was added as a second thought. On the other hand, Cydia was designed with repositories in mind, and the store was added as an afterthought.

      As for Appsidy, imagine if Lowe's and Home Depot were in the same shopping mall, and suddenly Lowe's installed shopping lanes inside of Home Depot. That is what Appsidy was doing to Cydia.
    1. drunknbass's Avatar
      drunknbass -
      Quote Originally Posted by OneRing2Rule View Post
      Huh, what about devs who freakin' LIE to people after putting out some lame little video recorder example and then dress up their website, saying ooooooh, look. I've got the very first iPhone video recorder app almost ready to go. Lots of us oldtimers gave you money f in the beginning of the jailbreak game. You promised the world and delivered nothing.

      Excuse me. You did take some pretty pix of a Mac conference that we financed. Yeah this was two years ago, but I don't forget screwjobs.

      You can joke about the Kanye West of programming thing, but drunknbass, you just flat out committed theft by fraud.

      You owe me $25.00. [email protected] on Paypal

      Cough it up.


      Hey troll, youve been spamming my inbox for a long time and ive told you every time id refund any donation you sent me. You never gave me your email address to refund it and continue to troll me.

      And i didnt even go to macworld that year and your 25$ wouldnt have even bought me lunch on my flight (if you really sent it).

      Normally i wouldnt be quick to jump back.. well actually i would because im a ****.. but i could care less about you or what you think. Ill look up and see if you really did send me anything and then block you because im sick of you cyber staling me on this website.



      Oh here is your donation. 25$? nice try you ******* liar.

      http://snapplr.com/jptv

      expect your 10$ back shortly troll.
    1. Blue's Avatar
      Blue -
      Quote Originally Posted by supersocialist View Post
      The reason AppSidy was great, I say from a developing perspective, is that I'm honestly having a hard time finding out how to set up for the Cydia Store. AppSidy had a portal with a couple forms and I was good to go. In contrast: I've spent days e-mailing people and googling variants on "join Cydia store" with no luck. I'm sure I'm being stupid. I MUST be missing something obvious; there's no rational way a sales system should be as difficult to join as Cydia seems to be. Try as I may, though, I can't find the "join" link, I get no replies from Saurik... so I'll miss the AppSidy team, they were professional and courteous and always responded fast to their e-mail.

      (Nothing ill meant towards Saurik of course; the man does good work, he keeps well busy, he must not have a support team on staff to help...)

      This is it. I googled many days, wrote many mails to saurik, never got a answer. There is absolutly ZERO information about how to release anything at Cydia Store, no answer, no help, nothing....

      I was really pissed off and decide to sell my themes with appsidy.

      But: Appsidy was the same ****, like Rockapp, with every release they produced bugs and frustration to me and the users, mixed names, lost user tickets, it was (is) still the pure hell to release anything at rockapp and/or appsidy.

      From a developers side i can only warn you from anything that has to do with Rock ! The shutdown of appsidy is a case in point


      Now i still have problems as my themes moved over to Cydia store: minimum pro is still missing and users canīt update for example "Evolution OS2".

      I pray that this developers nightmare will end some day.......
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by phoenix3200 View Post
      30% is standard operating procedure in software circles. When you factor in VAT taxes (which it's doubtful that Rock et al. pays), server costs (saurik pays a lot per month so the world over can have good access to his software), and PayPal fees, saurik doesn't earn anywhere close to 30%. I'm also unsure as to where you get the exclusivity info from; as far as I know, saurik hasn't cut any such deals.

      Rock et al. is most definitely in it for the money. While it may not be as apparent now, Rock was built with one sole purpose: to sell software. The ability to use distributed sources (e.g. repos), etc. was added as a second thought. On the other hand, Cydia was designed with repositories in mind, and the store was added as an afterthought.
      I never said I had an issue with the 30%. I think its a fair amount. I also never said saurik was taking home 30%. Any business person would realize that gross income and net income are very different things.

      I never really understand why you have such an issue with competition. I respect your right to not sell your software on rock but devs like yourself that choose to hold out on rock sales are missing out on potential sales. As a business person, I don't see the point. But good for you for standing by your principles.

      And as far as Rock is concerned, yes they are in it for money. Just like you as a dev are in it for money, and saurik is in it for money. saurik has been a huge part of the community and whatever money he is profiting from cydia sales, I am sure is not enough. I think saurik should take a small cut on repo ad revenue also.