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    Having defeated Sony, Nintendo is now setting its sights on Apple. According to a report in the Times Online, company president Satoru Iwata told his staff that the war with Sony is over and that Apple is the “enemy of the future.” The Japanese manufacturer is still making money, but has seen profits fall in the slow economy and intends to market more family-oriented games, which is seen as an Apple stronghold.

    Nintendo has some justification to be smug about its position compared with Sony, as they sold almost twice as many Wiis as the number of PlayStation 3s that Sony sold during the 2009 holiday season. However, Nintendo's sales were 21% less in the first quarter of this year than they were in the same period last year. Nintendo's DS, though still the top-selling mobile game machine, is seeing its sales pinched by the rising popularity of iPhone OS-based devices. In trying to expand the Ds's appeal beyond the traditional market of primarily young, primarily male gamers, Nintendo is squarely in competition with the iPhone and iPod touch, which are attractive to a wider demographic range.

    The company's hopes are largely pinned on the new Nintendo 3DS console, which is to be officially launched next month at the E3 Expo. Nintendo claims that the device will be able to be "enjoyed with 3D effects without the need for any special glasses." Company president Iwata was interviewed by the Asahi Shimbun news paper and stated that the 3DS will have "highly detailed graphics, and it will be necessary to have a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing," though the company later said he had been misquoted. Reportedly, the three-dimensional effects will be able to be switched off in response to health concerns about long-term 3D use.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Nintendo Declares War on Apple started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 65 Comments
    1. feidhlim1986's Avatar
      feidhlim1986 -
      Quote Originally Posted by vruls View Post
      The DSxl was inspired by the ipad
      Definitely, considering the DSiXL was revealed months before the iPad and looks and acts just like an iPad
    1. lolcats1's Avatar
      lolcats1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by djnikk View Post
      6 year old mac > 3000$ gaming pc > any console..... period
      literally laughed out loud when i read this. a 1300$ gaming PC is older than a 2 year old mac, let alone a 6 year old mac.

      stop spouting stuff like this, please. for your own sake if nothing else.

      Quote Originally Posted by vruls View Post
      The DSxl was inspired by the ipad
      average intelligence of the users on MMI just dropped. hard
    1. adp's Avatar
      adp -
      Quote Originally Posted by pauldanielash View Post
      Having defeated Sony, Nintendo is now setting its sights on Apple.
      I stopped reading after I saw this. Just shows how much ignorance you have. Quantity is not quality.
    1. dillonsmith9147's Avatar
      dillonsmith9147 -
      just tick most of you off, xbox = ps3
      neways, nintendo has been around to long to fall off, but honestly i think the handheld market is dwindling down as far as gaming goes, let apple have the handheld market and go own sony and microsoft in the console business, i mean cmon, look at how revolutionary the wii was even though it was inferior to both xbox and ps3, they could kick them both off if they could obtain good game titles and a kickass console
      .................................................. ............^^^^^ really? no swear filter?
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      Huh? The Wii was in competition with the PS3? They're so vastly different, one can say that they are targeting the opposite consumers.

      I doubt there was ever a time where someone was genuinely racking their brains to decide if they should buy the Wii or PS3.
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by djnikk View Post
      6 year old mac > 3000$ gaming pc > any console..... period
      Agreed. If people know how to use their computers correctly, even old Macs are highly capable for playing the best high end games out there.
      People say "ohh Mac has no games," search google please. Mac has pretty much 98% of every game out there which are out for windows. As for the memory, Mac can out run windows on the smallest amount of ram, I have a old mac laying around which has 512 mb ram, and a windows 95 computer which same memory and almost same specs. On mac I can actively play like Starcraft or warcraft or games of those stature, while on windows it almost crashes every time I even open a game which uses more than 100,000 memory process.

      2) As for the iPad, no wonder all of those companies would be after Apple. the iPad is a very capable device, 1 GHz portable sexy gadget. Which can run several emulators (Now even faster ones, do to iPads RAM/memory.) Not only can the iPad run N64 games perfectly, but soon Im 100% sure there will start being some hacking Wii games or something xD Since if you guys have seen, some hackers have been able to the iPhone detect the Wii controller and actively work perfectly. So why not iPad? If you guys have heard, some while ago some company released some code [XML or something] to allow xbox 360 games on iPhone, so now that iPad is out, now what?

      3) If I were to judge the best consoles out there right now, I would say

      PS3>Wii>Xbox 360.

      Note: I don't really know what nintendo means by beating Sony. Since the PS3 targets a completely different consumers than the Wii and vice versa.

      PS3
      - Free online gaming [Not bad online either]
      - Bluray player [Very handy when needed]
      - Offers more hard drive memory than any other console 120-250 I think is the limit correct. While Xbox 360's highest is 120.
      - Does not have red ring of death LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
      - Slim versions = very small and more technologically advanced than 360.
      - Offers just as many same games as the Xbox does. "Omg xbox has crappy Halo omg" Who cares about Halo
      - You can connect PSP to play and so much more.
      - Also you can hack PS3 firmware to install games and etc.
      - Same if not better graphics than xbox 360 + wii.
      - Has [built in] 802.11b/g Wi-Fi
      - Has 2 USB ports
      - Has Bravia Sync XMB control
      - Has Slim form factor
      - Has Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD Master Audio bitstreaming[4]
      - Has DualShock 3 controller


      If you say Xbox is better, you have lost it ^_^
      PS3 provides more features in EVERY SINGLE WAY possible.

      Wii
      - Very interactive and fun
      - Super smash bros on wii = Best ever.
      - Free online
      - Does not have any problems like xbox "red ring of fail"
      - And pretty much just very very interactive is what you can describe Wii as


      While Xbox
      - Has Halo "OMG"
      - "a bit" better online gaming
      - HAVE TO PAY for online gaming
      - Provides less memory
      - Cannot do as much as PS3
      - Not really fun to play after a while
      - Good thing is amount of accessories it supports
      - Has Red ring of fail



      So, there. That is my comparison of the 3 consoles. I for one compare products which are actually capable of doing things/ while having decent hardware specs.
    1. damod84's Avatar
      damod84 -
      nintendo is awesome but let's be serious now
    1. jkmonkey's Avatar
      jkmonkey -
      I think everyone is missing the point. To companies it's not about how much better your product is, it's about how many you can sell and how much you profit. So what if nintendo targets a broader range audiance, it worked!! In terms of units sold and profit Nintendo=win
    1. Dorkenstein909's Avatar
      Dorkenstein909 -
      im routing for nintendo
    1. kaadhareyg's Avatar
      kaadhareyg -
      No one talked about the PS2 ? lol

      I still use the PS2 :P Winning Eleven All day long baby !!
    1. adp's Avatar
      adp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jkmonkey View Post
      I think everyone is missing the point. To companies it's not about how much better your product is, it's about how many you can sell and how much you profit. So what if nintendo targets a broader range audiance, it worked!! In terms of units sold and profit Nintendo=win
      Wrong. Toyota got top sales. They're doing good aren't they? Millions of cars recalled, horrible reliablity reports (on newer cars). Just because you sell the most products does not mean you're the best company. There's a reason why Ferrari doesn't mass produce...
    1. akolemba's Avatar
      akolemba -
      i just like how much nintendo seems to have taken from the apple play book only to mount an offensive afterward.

      "hey apple, how do you sell things?" "paint it glossy white and if you got the coin throw some chrome down. they'll show up in groves wanting millions"

      lol anyone remember what the original ds looked like? lets remake the wii using the same strategy when we designed the gamecube. a purple box with a handle to latch it onto a rope and use as a boat anchor.


      ... on a side note, competition only makes both stronger. i don't see either company dying anytime soon so this gaming crusade nintendo is about to embark on will just be better for us as customers. i think at least. if they would team up it'd be even more epic.
    1. yomamashump's Avatar
      yomamashump -
      They should have called this article "Calling All Fanboys! Open Season On Console-You-Don't-Like Trash Talking". I can't believe I just read this entire thread and perhaps heard only 3 valid points amidst a sea of fanboys. That's 10 minutes I'll never get back...
    1. codeseven's Avatar
      codeseven -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nickaroni22 View Post
      Therefor the 3DS, or whatever they call it, cant compeat with the iPhone. You always have your phone with you. Nintendo cant make a device that is more convenient then iPhone.
      This is a valid point. I really don't expect this new Nintendo handheld console to really outsell or outperform the iPad/iPhone. Also the demographic between the two companies and devices is a great factor too. As much as Nintendo would like to maybe change their image of the kid-friendly system developer, I really don't think they ever will.

      As far as Nintendo defeating PS3, I'd have to agree. I prefer my PS3 over my Wii any day, but the fact is that Nintendo has outsold both Microsoft and Sony when it comes to gaming consoles - and I think that was the original point of that statement he made.
    1. pyromcr's Avatar
      pyromcr -
      well, nintendo needs to start making a better system if they even want a chance to beat apple...
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by adp View Post
      Wrong. Toyota got top sales. They're doing good aren't they? Millions of cars recalled, horrible reliablity reports (on newer cars). Just because you sell the most products does not mean you're the best company. There's a reason why Ferrari doesn't mass produce...
      Agreed.
    1. falkon1420's Avatar
      falkon1420 -
      A lot of sony "Fan Boys"..Numbers dont LIE...ds>wii>xbox360>ps3.. Apple has a long way........ Nintendo has been in the game a very long time.....
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      What's the point of this article? To have a gaming discussion?

      As long if it is good console or handheld, I don't really care.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      I think every last one of you has missed what is meant by "defeated". Higher console/game sales = defeated. Their games may be more childish and kid friendly, but the fact of the matter is they sell like hotcakes (although maybe not as well as last quarter's hotcakes LOL). In a world where people tend to think graphics are king, Nintendo is doing extraordinarily well considering neither of their consoles can compete in that department. They see the successes of apps that are completely touch-based and have been cashing in on that fact as well. Hell, the latest ZELDA is almost completely stylus-driven. I expect their eye on Apple will consist first on a pricing standpoint. Consumers gobble up games in the $5-10 price range that are meant just to be fun "pass the time" games. You can bet we will see a ton more of those hitting the market from NINTENDO.
    1. feidhlim1986's Avatar
      feidhlim1986 -
      Quote Originally Posted by eZStaR View Post
      Agreed. If people know how to use their computers correctly, even old Macs are highly capable for playing the best high end games out there.
      People say "ohh Mac has no games," search google please. Mac has pretty much 98% of every game out there which are out for windows. As for the memory, Mac can out run windows on the smallest amount of ram, I have a old mac laying around which has 512 mb ram, and a windows 95 computer which same memory and almost same specs. On mac I can actively play like Starcraft or warcraft or games of those stature, while on windows it almost crashes every time I even open a game which uses more than 100,000 memory process.

      2) As for the iPad, no wonder all of those companies would be after Apple. the iPad is a very capable device, 1 GHz portable sexy gadget. Which can run several emulators (Now even faster ones, do to iPads RAM/memory.) Not only can the iPad run N64 games perfectly, but soon Im 100% sure there will start being some hacking Wii games or something xD Since if you guys have seen, some hackers have been able to the iPhone detect the Wii controller and actively work perfectly. So why not iPad? If you guys have heard, some while ago some company released some code [XML or something] to allow xbox 360 games on iPhone, so now that iPad is out, now what?

      3) If I were to judge the best consoles out there right now, I would say

      PS3>Wii>Xbox 360.

      Note: I don't really know what nintendo means by beating Sony. Since the PS3 targets a completely different consumers than the Wii and vice versa.

      PS3
      - Free online gaming [Not bad online either]
      - Bluray player [Very handy when needed]
      - Offers more hard drive memory than any other console 120-250 I think is the limit correct. While Xbox 360's highest is 120.Xbox has a 250GB HDD Also
      - Does not have red ring of death LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
      - Slim versions = very small and more technologically advanced than 360.Its actually worse than the original PS3 - No Backwards Compatibility & No install other OS
      - Offers just as many same games as the Xbox does. "Omg xbox has crappy Halo omg" Who cares about Halo 360 has over 750 games (disc based onle not xbla) PS3 has just over 600
      - You can connect PSP to play and so much more.Yeah you can use it as a rear view mirror in GT
      - Also you can hack PS3 firmware to install games and etc.Nearly, but you've been able to do it on 360 for years
      - Same if not better graphics than xbox 360 + wii.
      - Has [built in] 802.11b/g Wi-Fi
      - Has 2 USB ports 360 has 3 USB port
      - Has Bravia Sync XMB control
      - Has Slim form factor Only the PS3 Slim is slim, the original is not
      - Has Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD Master Audio bitstreaming[4] You still need a surround sound setup to hear the sound
      - Has DualShock 3 controller I dont see why you would put this as a specific point


      If you say Xbox is better, you have lost it ^_^
      PS3 provides more features in EVERY SINGLE WAY possible.

      Wii
      - Very interactive and fun
      - Super smash bros on wii = Best ever.
      - Free online
      - Does not have any problems like xbox "red ring of fail"Had quite a big issue with drive lasers not being able to read Dual Layer Discs ie Smash Bros.
      - And pretty much just very very interactive is what you can describe Wii as


      While Xbox
      - Has Halo "OMG"
      - "a bit" better online gaming
      - HAVE TO PAY for online gaming
      - Provides less memory If you mean Hard Drive space, then see above
      - Cannot do as much as PS3
      - Not really fun to play after a while ?
      - Good thing is amount of accessories it supports
      - Has Red ring of fail Make this point again, I didnt hear you the first few times



      So, there. That is my comparison of the 3 consoles. I for one compare products which are actually capable of doing things/ while having decent hardware specs.
      I fixed some of your points above in bold. Maybe try and be a bit more informed next time. Your clearly a PS3 Fanboy Btw I own neither console