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  • Planetbeing: Android OS Now Running on the iPhone 3G



    David Wong, the "hobbyist hacker" much more widely recognized as "planetbeing," has posted a blog proclaiming Andoid's arrival on the iPhone 3G. Despite the admission that the port is "slightly more rough" than its predecessor (Android on first-generation iPhone port), Wong says this accomplishment is significant for no shortage of reasons, not the least of which is that it represents an "important milestone for the more DIY-minded owners of the millions of iPhone 3G devices that are out there."

    You can almost read the excitement in Wong's voice as he penned word that he has successfully made Google's Android OS run on the iPhone 3G, a feat that, without question, will engender more than a few ridiculously cool possibilities for the iPhone 3G - like using the Android OS to surf the web or exploring an entirely new world of apps. And while Wong praises the notion of "do-it-yourself," don't worry. You won't necessarily have to go it alone to make Android run on your iPhone 3G.

    you'll have your chance in a couple of days when the packaged binaries and instructions for the 3G are posted.
    In the midst of announcing the development, it was also noted that a host of tweaks were made to the first port. For example, the Wi-Fi driver "has been fleshed out with all the Android-specific extensions." Additionally, an Android icon has been slapped on the boot menu for easy access. And while audio support is yet to arrive, Wang assures his readers that this issue will be resolved next, as the "groundwork" has been laid. According to Wang, audio support on the 3G should be forthcoming in a matter of days.

    Indeed, the iPhone 3G is now running Android. To see Wong's video of the epic achievement, check out his blog.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Planetbeing: Android OS Now Running on the iPhone 3G started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 150 Comments
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Android 2.1 on 3GS, can't wait...
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      So this is only for 3G! So is that 3G, as in 3rd Genaration, or only for iPhone 3G, 2nd Generation? It would make no sense to load this to a iPhone 3G, and not a 3GS. Theres a big difference in preformance between to too.
    1. TheDirtyDiddler's Avatar
      TheDirtyDiddler -
      It's awesome that he pulled this off, but I can't see why anyone would actually want to USE it...
    1. jayson9's Avatar
      jayson9 -
      Quote Originally Posted by chrisrotolo View Post
      dual boot?

      dual boot?

      drools....

      slurps...

      dual boot 3gs??....

      Congrats Planetbeing

      you are the man
      And lets not forget:
      Boot the iphone...
      Sehr Gute!

      Let's recap:
      Apple make iphone
      AT&T destroy iPhone with poor service
      Android OS phones take over world!

      Love it!!!! Now if I can only get one of those Incredible's! Man what a good day that will be - I tell you!
    1. Oneh1tko's Avatar
      Oneh1tko -
      lol I like how his iPhone cable is all frayed like mine.
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by paganizonda83 View Post
      Could you please list your key points as to why the iPhone and it's OS is so superior to the "rip-off" Android phones and their OS?

      I don't see the logic people like you appear to use. Just because Apple was the first to capitalize on a minimalistic touch-screen design, that means nobody else should be aple to offer similar products for fear of being labeled as rip-offs? Should they put 20 pointless and unnecessary buttons around the screen and the sides so as to make it appear even more different than the iPhone?

      As far as the OS goes, I admire your wholehearted support of an OS that you feel is so great that you went as far as to jailbreak your ipod touch.
      Oh ok, you want facts.

      Here is main "fact"
      Code:
      http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2009/07/androidviphone30-table04.png
      1) Why is HTC being sued by Apple, did you read? Because of hardware specs.
      Now the OS? LOL "APP STORE" ???
      GUI components? (Widgets, wallpapers = Nexus+)
      LOL?? Hence "Rip OFF."

      "offer similar products for fear of being labeled as rip-offs? "
      ^- I laughed so hard at that, "lawsuittt - By Apple."

      2) iPhone OS looks beautiful, compared to that primitive android OS. Every other phone has the same crappy set up, please tell me what is point of Android? I mean look at the OS, its laughable. It's almost like they made the whole GUI in paint. Here is a huge LOL picture of what I mean


      My point exactly. All of HTC + OS is laughable.
      Comparing the Android OS to Apples iPhone OS is like comparing a Nintendo 64 with a PS3.




      Quote Originally Posted by KartRacer View Post
      Because he/she thinks that since they don't think it's cool or useful, no one else will. It's called being close-minded and biased. Or just plain ignorance. Some people have a serious case of narcissism around here. 'I don't like it so why would anyone else' seems to be quite popular in this stories comments.
      Biased, and ignorant? Im using facts, look what Android has compared to iPhone OS. iPhone OS wins, 10 to 1. Plain and simple, look over the features of the iPhone OS please. Oh, jailbreak coming into play aswell? Free apps? Omg.


      Quote Originally Posted by dstein View Post
      Have you ever even used an HTC or Android OS phone? with 2.2 getting flash and their unobtrusive notification system, that and native backgrounding to be able to dual boot into that if you wanted to would be great! especially since the final nail was just hammered into the coffin that is flash on the iphone. if you could have 2 of the best mobile OS' on one handset why not?

      as for considering what is better and comparing electronics...here is some food for thought on apple's quality products...in the past year i have visited the genius bar with my 2008 MBP 6 times due to logic board, mother board, hard drive and display failures. my 2009 mac mini's super drive just bit the dust. my year old wireless keyboard is no longer functioning. and my airport extreme base station just recently stopped broadcasting dual bands. needless to say i am going to be thinking long and hard about my next apple purchase. i must say though that i have been taken care of with all of these problems.
      1) Look at iPhone OS 4. For your notification system and backgrounding.

      2) You ask me if I have ever used a HTC product, I have owned one, just to see what is the hype, made me almost throwup looking at it, and sold it. And two, I have a question for you. Do you know how to use your electronics? Lmfao

      Quote Originally Posted by Otherkid View Post
      Wow so i guess every phone that has a keypad and a screen copied the first mobile phone too. Or how about apple copied palm because palm has had touch screens for a long time. Or how about monopolies are illegal and apple is an ignorant company that likes to half *** upgrade something every year so that everyone goes and buy its and then still pay out the *** for it and choose the shittiest wireless carrier in the US. AT&T Drops 3x More Calls Than Verizon, May Keep Exclusive

      I dont even see where you get the point of saying Android OS is apiece of **** because I have had all 3 iphones and got rid of them because I think the Iphone OS is way to restrictive and under weighted. I dont believe you have ever even tried using an Android phone. I'm not saying that ones better than the other but the Android OS is definitely just as good as the Iphone OS. I sold my iphone 3gs and bought a mytouch 3g that day and havent looked back at the Iphone OS and havent missed it once. The stuff that comes with their phones is definitely way cooler than anything the iphone comes with and when they get upgrades its alot of **** and the phone is basically redesigned for future technology not half assed and then oh next year we will put that in there. Just thought I would share my thoughts on your ignorant rant.

      "Or how about apple copied palm because palm has had touch screens for a long time."

      Lol, your comparing palm to Apple, thats a huge joke, since Pre was released as a second rip off of the overall iPhone.

      "I dont believe you have ever even tried using an Android phone. I'm not saying that ones better than the other but the Android OS is definitely just as good as the Iphone OS. "

      1) I have used one, so so ******. If I wanted a crappy GUI/default GUI/same icons and features I would have bought ANY touchscreen samsung phone LOL.

      2) Android OS just as good as iPhone OS? LMFAO!!!!
      Here you go buddy,
      Code:
      http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2009/07/androidviphone30-table04.png
      That is old iPhone OS, look at iPhone os 4, best OS out there.
      Just as good,lol, can you get amazing free apps by jailbreaking? Or can you get a OS which can background applications without losing battery power? [OS 4] Can you customize your OS like winterboard can? Can you pick from over 200,000 original apps [Not rip off apps from the Android store?]
      I don't think so, reevaluate what you have just said.


      Quote Originally Posted by cpkirkley View Post
      @EZStar - there is absolutely NOTHING in common between the SenseUI and Apple OS. The idea for gridded program icons is as old as computing itself.

      Secondly, re-evaluate your qualifications for a crappy OS. It took Apple 2 years to implement A2DP, 3 years to implement Copy and Paste, and Year 4 introduces multitasking. All of which was available of Symbian, Palm, UIQ, WinCE.... Do I need to repeat that? As a whole, iPhone OS is not a bad system at all, but to put it on a pedestal like its light years ahead of the competition is naive. Without a major refresh, The iPhones OS is now dated, stale, and boring. Oh wait, not anymore, I forgot you can set your own background without Jailbreaking. Welcome to 2003, Cupertino.

      Lol, Im not even going to waste time on your post, its so clear you don't even know what your saying. Proof of that i'm going to let this guys quote own you


      Quote Originally Posted by politicalslug View Post
      "
      Total nonsense. And you write horribly. You're counting features and not usability. And you can't even count very well. Day 1 introduced iPhoneOS (2007). A year later A2DP (2008). Two years later copy and paste (2009). And now three years later multitasking (2010). Call me crazy but that's three years, not four. And the worst part is people like you don't have a clue why my APPL stock has shot up over something like 40% this year alone. They really do make the best product out there. It's totally limited in ways that only a geek (and we're all geeks if we're on this forum) could appreciate. We all Jailbreak so none of this affects us. My mom can use an iPhone but still can't turn on the DVD player. Tell me that's not progress? When you can make something as complicated and capable as a smartphone so easy to use ANYONE can pick it up and dive in, you've created something amazing. The market speaks for itself. Not once did any of the companies you've listed give real consideration to the interface. They kept on adding on junk. FM radio here, extra ram there, more speed on top of it all. If the masses can't figure the damn thing out it's worthless. It's just that simple. If you want constant feature updates buy an Android phone. And good luck keeping the software up-to-date if you buy one with a custom user interface (ie Sense, Blur, etc.)
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      But Like I said before, I am just stating facts and comparing normal products to superior products. I mean no disrespect.
      Furthermore, you guys really don't know much about iPhone OS. Funniest part you are on a site which mainly supports Apple and their products!
    1. techrider62's Avatar
      techrider62 -
      Apple make the best products in apple fanboys minds..........

      Very close minded

      I had all three iphone but i'm still very open minded about other products
    1. KartRacer's Avatar
      KartRacer -
      Looks like eZstar has formed an OPINION on which is best. An OPINION. A grid of 16 icons isn't anything compared to the SenseUI and hence YOU HAVE TO JAILBREAK TO MAKE IT LOOK HALF DECENT. Android doesn't have this problem, AND you don't have to jump through hoops and be considered a criminal by the manufacturer when you do modify it. I think the Apple OS is better, but the features they have were AT LEAST 3 years behind. Sure thye are great now, but they should have been there from the beginning.

      I like the Apple OS, the interface is absolute garbage stock, Android is not. Ezstar, you need to take a deep breath and look at this with some objectivity and not a massive amount of irrational thinking and bias. You're making the argument we are all wrong and you're right based on your opinion about looks. 200k apps is not a point you can use as fact when in fact 90% are utter garbage. You need to calm down and loose most of your bias. You're comparing OS4, which isn't out yet and has copied EVERY feature it has from US JAILBREAKERS, to an OS that is completely open compared to the iPhone OS. Don't want Apples lame *** grid screen with NO customization? Or do you want something that can be easily modified and you don't get treated as if you have leprosy or are a criminal by the manufacturer.

      Calm down dude. We get you have a biased opinion, great. Let the dude install Android if he wants, no skin off your teeth.

      Besides, have you been instrumental in the iPhone being jailbroken? Didn't think so.

      Quote Originally Posted by lv_vl View Post
      Cool off, man. I admire the guy who did it. And if you read my post #26 again, you'll see why I care.

      My question was aimed at many users here who are very excited about running Android on their iPhones. I am interested to see if people really want to have Android to "show off" and say "yes, I did it" (which is nice) or to run Android just because they like it more than iPhone OS? Are they interested in actually using it as their main/regular phone (in which case getting android phone will make sense) or just run it for fun on their "test" phone?
      Okay, sorry for the harshness. I would do it if my stupid 2G would be recognized by my MBP, and I would do it just to be different. Running Android on an iPhone is definitely different and as shallow as it sounds it would be cool to have the only iPhone running Android out of the 8 people I've gotten to buy an iPhone.
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Quote Originally Posted by GrandMstrBud View Post
      I can wait to try this out. I bet Steve is loving this
      That'w why he, Apple is suing HTC, he bought a 2g off Craigslist just so he could see and he likes it!
    1. Ichwohneinloche's Avatar
      Ichwohneinloche -
      Hey Ezstar, What did HTC or android ever do to you? I've never seen anyone bash android or HTC this much. It's amazing. Idk what you are talking about with the comment on 4.0 notifications. It still pops up and forces me to do something right then and there. I'm all for this, hell if it works right i'll probably use it more than Iphone OS just because i like the way it feels. And Personally i think some of HTC's UIs are way better than Iphone OS. A bunch of icons or list that i can scroll through and animations that look amazing? I mean come on? Are you effing blind??
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by eZStaR View Post
      Oh ok, you want facts.

      Here is main "fact"
      Code:
      http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2009/07/androidviphone30-table04.png
      1) Why is HTC being sued by Apple, did you read? Because of hardware specs.
      Now the OS? LOL "APP STORE" ???
      GUI components? (Widgets, wallpapers = Nexus+)
      LOL?? Hence "Rip OFF."

      "offer similar products for fear of being labeled as rip-offs? "
      ^- I laughed so hard at that, "lawsuittt - By Apple."

      2) iPhone OS looks beautiful, compared to that primitive android OS. Every other phone has the same crappy set up, please tell me what is point of Android? I mean look at the OS, its laughable. It's almost like they made the whole GUI in paint. Here is a huge LOL picture of what I mean


      My point exactly. All of HTC + OS is laughable.
      Comparing the Android OS to Apples iPhone OS is like comparing a Nintendo 64 with a PS3.






      Biased, and ignorant? Im using facts, look what Android has compared to iPhone OS. iPhone OS wins, 10 to 1. Plain and simple, look over the features of the iPhone OS please. Oh, jailbreak coming into play aswell? Free apps? Omg.




      1) Look at iPhone OS 4. For your notification system and backgrounding.

      2) You ask me if I have ever used a HTC product, I have owned one, just to see what is the hype, made me almost throwup looking at it, and sold it. And two, I have a question for you. Do you know how to use your electronics? Lmfao




      "Or how about apple copied palm because palm has had touch screens for a long time."

      Lol, your comparing palm to Apple, thats a huge joke, since Pre was released as a second rip off of the overall iPhone.

      "I dont believe you have ever even tried using an Android phone. I'm not saying that ones better than the other but the Android OS is definitely just as good as the Iphone OS. "

      1) I have used one, so so ******. If I wanted a crappy GUI/default GUI/same icons and features I would have bought ANY touchscreen samsung phone LOL.

      2) Android OS just as good as iPhone OS? LMFAO!!!!
      Here you go buddy,
      Code:
      http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2009/07/androidviphone30-table04.png
      That is old iPhone OS, look at iPhone os 4, best OS out there.
      Just as good,lol, can you get amazing free apps by jailbreaking? Or can you get a OS which can background applications without losing battery power? [OS 4] Can you customize your OS like winterboard can? Can you pick from over 200,000 original apps [Not rip off apps from the Android store?]
      I don't think so, reevaluate what you have just said.





      Lol, Im not even going to waste time on your post, its so clear you don't even know what your saying. Proof of that i'm going to let this guys quote own you



      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      But Like I said before, I am just stating facts and comparing normal products to superior products. I mean no disrespect.
      Furthermore, you guys really don't know much about iPhone OS. Funniest part you are on a site which mainly supports Apple and their products!
      1) Being sued by Apple means absolutely nothing.

      2) If you're going to use a chart for comparing the two OS's it is best if you compare the most current versions of each OS. That chart compares iphone 3.0 software with the pre-Android 1.5 OS (Thus the "coming in cupcake" notes). For one thing, that chart doesn't even compare the iphone os to the furthest update of android out at that time. Also, that chart is from the fall of 2009, just after the 3gs was released. I certainly hope the iPhone would be ahead in such a comparison or else there'd be no point in releasing a phone that's already behind it's competition right out of the gate.

      The comparison below between the 3GS and the Motorola Droid is a much more honest comparison of the two OS's.
      Motorola DROID vs iPhone 3GS comparative chart Reviews Android Phone Apps, News and Reviews | SimplyDroid

      3) Did you just try and google for the worst android photo that you could find? Here's some shots of the Droids screen, I don't see how you can complain about it's quality.




      4) Do not try and use upcoming OS updates as support for your argument. You can't talk about future plans when comparing current products. By the way, go read about multitasking on android and then on apple and tell me who is copying who. FYI, android multitasking is no more of a battery drain than iphone 4.0's will be.

      5) Your mentioning of jailbreaking coming into play as supporting your argument is rather pointless. There is no need to jailbreak something that is not locked up and restricted by it's programmers in the first place.


      You seem to have no clue what you are talking about, and even less of a clue as to how and defend it. You find old and outdated data to try and prove your point and then go on to find a crappy photo of a lower grade phone thats running android. Keep trying to find information that supports your view and I'll be more than glad to point out the giant holes in all of it once more. Until then go back to your justin beiber blogs or whatever you children do these days.
    1. ikesmasher's Avatar
      ikesmasher -
      Quote Originally Posted by eZStaR View Post
      Oh ok, you want facts.
      next a bunch of random ****
      you have to be one of the biggest,worst fanboys i have ever seen. the point of this is not JUST to run android on the iphone. this is progress toward bigger things, like snow lopeard or windows XP on an iPad.
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by paganizonda83 View Post
      1) Being sued by Apple means absolutely nothing.

      2) If you're going to use a chart for comparing the two OS's it is best if you compare the most current versions of each OS. That chart compares iphone 3.0 software with the pre-Android 1.5 OS (Thus the "coming in cupcake" notes). For one thing, that chart doesn't even compare the iphone os to the furthest update of android out at that time. Also, that chart is from the fall of 2009, just after the 3gs was released. I certainly hope the iPhone would be ahead in such a comparison or else there'd be no point in releasing a phone that's already behind it's competition right out of the gate.

      The comparison below between the 3GS and the Motorola Droid is a much more honest comparison of the two OS's.
      Motorola DROID vs iPhone 3GS comparative chart Reviews Android Phone Apps, News and Reviews | SimplyDroid

      3) Did you just try and google for the worst android photo that you could find? Here's some shots of the Droids screen, I don't see how you can complain about it's quality.
      [IMG]Removed do to size in quoting.[/IMG]

      [IMG]Removed do to size in quoting.[/IMG]

      4) Do not try and use upcoming OS updates as support for your argument. You can't talk about future plans when comparing current products. By the way, go read about multitasking on android and then on apple and tell me who is copying who. FYI, android multitasking is no more of a battery drain than iphone 4.0's will be.

      5) Your mentioning of jailbreaking coming into play as supporting your argument is rather pointless. There is no need to jailbreak something that is not locked up and restricted by it's programmers in the first place.


      You seem to have no clue what you are talking about, and even less of a clue as to how and defend it. You find old and outdated data to try and prove your point and then go on to find a crappy photo of a lower grade phone thats running android. Keep trying to find information that supports your view and I'll be more than glad to point out the giant holes in all of it once more. Until then go back to your justin beiber blogs or whatever you children do these days.

      1) Did you just say being sued by Apple does not mean anything? Oh right, being sued for ripping another persons designs/data/ absolutely means nothing, and later defending the ripped off device. Right, your right, LOL.

      2) Chart, is completely fair as for that point, both old OS's. What did the original iPhone OS look like when it FIRST came out beta or what ever you want to call it? The GUI and everything was almost exactly the same. iPhone OS - Wins.

      3) As you bash with me with your "ohh old OS," I can bash you with Droid coming out months and months after the iPhone 3Gs. What did the Droid do? Look at iPhone design, and make it better. Even though OS is ****. If you think Droid did nothing to copy, look at your own chart. Funniest point I have to make here is

      - Same Dimensions of the phone , = LMFAO. Other touch screen phones are not all same sizes, umm?

      - Added keyboard, lmao. Although not even needed, what the hell is point of touch screen, if you are using keyboard to text?

      - Same exact accelerometer sensors

      - Says your using a "Blackra1ned iPhone 3GS 16gb" on your Modmyi device. -LOL.

      4) "added" multitasking - although doesn't use API's. And "DOES" waste battery, and freezes and is totally buggy. My statement comes here
      Code:
      http://theroosterstrikes.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/droid-does/
      Don't even try to tell me that droid can handle multitasking, because that is a complete joke.
      "Droid does (bad):

      Multi-tasking/simultaneous app services. Sure it’s nice running Pandora and not have it completely shut down if a call/SMS/email comes through (ahem, iPhone), but the Droid does not handle running multiple apps well. It runs too many, chugs along, freezes up, and then randomly reboots. "

      There are thousands of the same complaints , look it up. It made me laugh quite hard.

      5) Added a higher megapixel camera, just to make the overall phone look better. + Camera is a failure, horrible autofocus, which iPhone does perfectly. Look at the camera pictures taken from an iPhone and a Droid
      Code:
      http://dailymobile.se/2009/11/05/camera-duel-iphone-3gs-3mp-vs-motorola-droid-5mp-camera-samples/
      "Droid is known for a ****** camera, no matter if it is 5MP"
      See statement below about Apple not caring about specs.

      6) Quote:
      Code:
      "I certainly hope the iPhone would be ahead in such a comparison or else there'd be no point in releasing a phone that's already behind it's competition right out of the gate."
      Thats why its the best selling smartphone in the whole world. Right. Did the droid sell as much in the first week, or the first month as the iPhone did? No. Look here

      Code:
      http://obamapacman.com/2010/02/nexus-one-sales-fail-comparing-iphone-droid-n1-first-month-demand/
      iPhone has BEST features, it has EVERYthing you need in a small package in their OWN design, their OWN OS, their OWN original software. Look at droid,nexus,evo, they all survive on the fact that iPhone comes out, they look at iPhone's design and think their phone can become the next "iphone/ipod killer." Which in fact is impossible, since every iPhone release, leaves every other phone in the dust. Look at the iPad, everyone said it fails, yet it sold 2x more than iPhone did first month, and every other competitor is no where else to be seen.

      Quote:
      Code:
      "that's already behind it's competition right out of the gate"
      Don't make me laugh, since all the competition is a rip off version of the iPhone. Oh, and one more thing, iPhone has been the first and only best smart phone ever released before any of these other **** phones that have started coming out, what do you mean its already behind?

      7) Quote:
      Code:
      "Did you just try and google for the worst android photo that you could find? Here's some shots of the Droids screen, I don't see how you can complain about it's quality."
      Quality? Still looks like any other app design in any other phone. Default, and crappy. What iPhone did was have their OWN unique design. I don't even know how you can stand looking at those icons and say it looks fine. It looks like any Windows phone hahahha.

      8) Quote:
      Code:
      "Your mentioning of jailbreaking coming into play as supporting your argument is rather pointless. There is no need to jailbreak something that is not locked up and restricted by it's programmers in the first place."
      -I laughed at this even harder. Only reason you HAVE or WANT to jailbreak is to get FREE APPS. Understand? That is the #1 reason why people "JAILBREAK." Other reasons is to either customize or enhance the phones performance. By enhance, I mean kill the phone in a long term use.
      -Why do you think Apple does not allow jailbreaking? If jailbreaking only consisted of the feature of getting free apps, long term use of the phone would be fine, but using apps which clear ram/memory while using your phone or itouch, kills its later on.
      - What do you mean "no need to jailbreak something which is locked up and restricted?" What is exactly restricted? Apple is the only one restricting applications which use too much of the iPhone or itouchs memory/ram, and which pose a battery or a overall threat to the iDevice you are using. Thats why cydia was made, to still let users get the applications they want, to either customize, get free apps, or enhancing the phone.
      - But I still think the life of the device you are using, matters on the person. I've had a jailbroken itouch and iphone for almost 1.5 years + and nothing has gone wrong.

      Notice:
      If you havn't noticed Apple "DOES NOT CARE" about hardware specs, they increase their specs when they want to, and even stated by Steve Jobs himself. If they wanted a 8MP camera, they would have already had it in the iPhone 3GS

      -On your chart it has 2 things wrong, iPhone DOES have multitasking in new OS, "WHICH IS ALREADY OUT" as a beta, so its not technically anything "planned for the future" if you can already use pretty much every feature in the OS. And its multitasking is the best.

      - I laugh at the fact that it says the google navigation is better than MobileMe. Its laughable. Apparently they don't know how easy and accurate MobileMe is, ohwell.

      9) Quote:
      Code:
      "You seem to have no clue what you are talking about, and even less of a clue as to how and defend it. You find old and outdated data to try and prove your point and then go on to find a crappy photo of a lower grade phone thats running android. Keep trying to find information that supports your view and I'll be more than glad to point out the giant holes in all of it once more. Until then go back to your justin beiber blogs or whatever you children do these days."
      LOL. I have no clue what I am talking about? Giant holes? I just proved pretty much EVERYTHING you said was wrong, = (your giant holes), and outdated data, no clue how to defend. You sir, need to get a clue.
      You obviously don't have any idea what iPhone is capable of. And don't realize that the phones you are defending at ripped off. I could have understand if droid came out before the iPhone and was original, but coming out after the latest iphone 3Gs (4G not out yet so) and taking or "attempting" to make all the hardware specs better and adding a keyboard. Such a joke. I don't even know how many times i've said "ripped off" in this thread, but apparently no one gets the meaning of that phrase. I know I am right, the world knows Im right, the stocks say Im right, 4 out of 1 people say Im right, but you say Im wrong. Umm.
      Thats like saying every one uses a zune or something LOLLLLL. Every one the whole world pretty much uses an iPod. Its like the most common word that goes around, like using google as a search engine "I google it."

      Why the hell would the iPod or iPhone be so popular if it has crappy specs, crappy OS? You make no sense what so ever. I am done arguing.
      Note: Your little joke about justin beiber, was quite irrelevant. Not to mention he's a horrible music artist who does not even know what a "German" is -
      Code:
      http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/185499/justin-bieber-ridiculed-for-german-mistake/
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Please play nice all. Remember insulting other members is against the rules. Great back and forth discussion and interesting points for both side but please keep insults to other members out of it.
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by cerote View Post
      Please play nice all. Remember insulting other members is against the rules. Great back and forth discussion and interesting points for both side but please keep insults to other members out of it.
      We are not insulting, just a debate
      I said In my post that I do not mean any harm/disrespect. I just reply like the person debating with me replies.
    1. leonpeeon's Avatar
      leonpeeon -
      ezstar,
      why is Beiber so popular when, as you just said, his music is crap?
      Popularity isn't the only thing that matters.
      Regardless, you really should cut down on all those "LOLLLL's". It's not helping you get your point across in an intelligent way.
      /My 2 cents.
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      I know but I wanted to remind everyone. Seen it many times where it got out of hand in other threads on debates. I like the debate going back and forth and love the points of both sides. I just don't want it to turn ugly.
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by leonpeeon View Post
      ezstar,
      why is Beiber so popular when, as you just said, his music is crap?
      Popularity isn't the only thing that matters.
      Regardless, you really should cut down on all those "LOLLLL's". It's not helping you get your point across in an intelligent way.
      /My 2 cents.
      1) Music /not electronics.
      - Look at lil wayne, he does not know how to make music yet he's popular. There are certain things which you cannot judge by who/what is better and why.

      - Almost anyone in the music industry mostly in the rap genre can pretty much blabber random words and people would like it without even understand what it means. Aka - Lil wayne or gucci maine.
      - The way you said "why is Beiber so popular when, as you just said, his music is crap?
      Popularity isn't the only thing that matters."
      almost says that you think Apple does not make quality products?

      - LOOOOL "IS" my way of making a point, - laughing at something which is completely false. I had already proved my point twice the "intelligent" way. But people can't seem to understand so thats where LOL comes into place
    1. leonpeeon's Avatar
      leonpeeon -
      Quote Originally Posted by eZStaR View Post
      1) Music /not electronics.
      - Look at lil wayne, he does not know how to make music yet he's popular. There are certain things which you cannot judge by who is better and why.

      - LOOOOL "IS" my way of making a point, - laughing at something which is completely false. I had already proved my point twice the "intelligent" way. But people can't seem to understand so thats where LOL comes into place
      I definitely agree with you on lil wayne...
      But I think popularity is never a good way to measure the quality of anything, in any field.
      And you have to admit that with anything Apple, hype and style play a major role.
    1. eZStaR's Avatar
      eZStaR -
      Quote Originally Posted by leonpeeon View Post
      I definitely agree with you on lil wayne...
      But I think popularity is never a good way to measure the quality of anything, in any field.
      And you have to admit that with anything Apple, hype and style play a major role.

      I never just meant Apples popularity makes their stocks or products sell/increase.
      I said that they have their "own" unique style aka iPhone, iPhone OS, Mac os x, but at the same time offer quality products. If it was only style that Apple had and nothing in the quality section, everyone would have something like a 3rd rate quality media device such as the zune.
      Also, you have to remember that Apple is not the one creating the "hype," it's the people. It's not Apples fault what the users think and do. Look at the iPad, everyone was hoping for some alien designed product, but just came out to be a pretty "decent" machine, wasn't anything "too" special. But since the iPad still is a quality product thats why it sells hardcore, sold 1 Million products in only 28 days 2x less time than the iPhone. There's got to be a reason the iPad sells instead of people just considering the "style" of the machine.