• Your favorite

    Apple

    ,

    iPhone

    ,

    iPad

    ,

    iOS

    ,
    Jailbreak
    , and
    Cydia
    site.
  • AT&T Cracking Down on MyWi Tethering?


    We've gotten a couple of tips today from users saying that they are receiving notices from AT&T regarding tethering. These users have been using MyWi for tethering, and are grandfathered into AT&T's old unlimited iPhone data plan.

    For one user, the notices began as a simple text message:
    "AT&T Free Msg: Did you know tethering your Smartphone to a computer requires a tethering plan? Pls call 888-860-6789 for details or visit att.com/dataplans."


    AT&T then followed up with this message via email:

    Dear [Customer],

    We've noticed your service plan may need updating.

    Many AT&T customers use their smartphones as a broadband connection for other devices, like laptops, netbooks or other smartphones– a practice commonly known as tethering. Tethering can be an efficient way for our customers to enjoy the benefits of AT&T's mobile broadband network and use more than one device to stay in touch with important people and information. To take advantage of this feature, we require that in addition to a data plan, you also have a tethering plan.

    Our records show that you use this capability, but are not subscribed to our tethering plan.

    If you would like to continue tethering, please log into
    your account online at Cell Phones and Cell Phone Plans - Wireless from AT&T, or call us
    at 1-888-860-6789 Monday - Friday, 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. CST
    or Saturday, 8 a.m. - 7 p.m. CST, by March 27, 2011
    to sign up for DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering.
    Here are details on the plan:

    DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering
    • $45 per month
    (this gives you 4GB in total, combining both your smartphone data plan for $25 and the tethering feature, $20)
    • $10 per each additional GB thereafter, added automatically as needed
    • Mobile Hotspot capabilities are included for compatible Smartphones

    If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you into DataPro 4GB afterMarch 27, 2011. The new plan – whether you sign up on your own or we automatically enroll you – will replace your current smartphone data plan, including if you are on an unlimited data plan.

    If you discontinue tethering, no changes to your current plan will be required.

    It's easy to track your usage throughout the month so there are no bill surprises. For example, we send you free text messages when you reach 65, 90, and 100 percent of your plan's threshold. If you would like to monitor your account more closely, go towww.att.com/dataplans to learn about other ways to track your data usage.

    As a reminder, our smartphone data plans also include unlimited usage of Wi-Fi at no additional charge. AT&T smartphone customers can use Wi-Fi at home or on-the-go at any one of our more than 23,000 U.S. hotspots already included in your data plan.

    Thank you for bringing your account up to date. We appreciate the opportunity to continue to serve your mobile broadband needs.

    Sincerely,

    AT&T
    This is the first we've heard about users receiving messages regarding MyWi tethering from AT&T. One speculation as to how AT&T may know about tethering is the iOS 4.3 update, which allows the iPhone to be used a personal hotspot. It's possible that AT&T can now track data usage specifically to the device that's being tethered, regardless of whether its done through the personal hotspot feature in 4.3 or via MyWi.

    We'll keep you posted if we hear anything more on this issue. Thank you very much to the readers who sent this in to our tips email!

    UPDATE: Based on user comments that some users are getting the message that don't tether at all, it looks like AT&T is targeting users who have high data usage. As it turns out, MyWi shows up as 0 tether bytes.

    This article was originally published in forum thread: AT&T Cracking Down on MyWi Tethering? started by Matt Savoca View original post
    Comments 1466 Comments
    1. CompFreak07's Avatar
      CompFreak07 -
      I have read some crazy statements from this thread such as att telling people that using the HDMI adapter to the TV is tethering and that is complete BS. Sling Player and Youtube is also not tethering at all and the people who work at att that said that were completely 1) misunderstood or 2) absolutely wrong. Now because we don't know for certain how they are determining our tether status we cant be sure that doing no actual tethering but still having a high data usage will change there mind if you were tethering or not. Do not wait to find out if you got a message. Call them and complain that you have been using Netflix more often than the past or that you stream music all day or Download files using Downloader from the App Store. See what they have to say and hopefully you wont end up with some deadbeat who got the job from a friend who works there and has no idea what they are talking about.
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by iphone925 View Post
      LOL did you get any text message or email yet ? for using 20 gb i got m text message at 12 gb hahaha but I have a question now So if next month i don't tether at all But use lot of data just on iphone itself through youtube / DISH SLING PLAYER and go over 10-15 gb will they still consider that is tethering cause they were saying that even dish sling is tethering ..
      Clearly, dish sling can't be tethering, as it's not behind the phone's IP.
      That's like saying you're tethering every server on the internet.

      They'll say anything to try and frighten users out of using high-consumption services.
    1. MikePA's Avatar
      MikePA -
      Quote Originally Posted by csglinux View Post
      If I purchase a data plan with 200Mb, 2Gb or 5Gb per month, it should be nobody's business but my own what those bytes consist of, what I do with them or where they go.
      Posts like this are tiresome, immature and wrong. They're worse than the posts by people with skulls full of mush who chant about a lawsuit.

      When you sign up for a data plan you agree to the Terms and Conditions and you agree to abide by them or suffer the penalty if you violate them when/if you're caught.

      The simple facts are;

      1. ATT could always identify people who were tethering.
      2. ATT has begun comparing this information to account information.
      3. ATT is notifying some of these people to pay up.
    1. iphone925's Avatar
      iphone925 -
      So now QUESTION I have unlimited plan Hopefully, only if I don't use tethering till the 27th so starting next month If i do tether After 27th say under 5gb will they still catch me ? I mean since some of you are thinking they are going for high bandwidth user I don't think 5gb is a lot but do you think they will still consider that as high bandwidth Let me know know if any of you has got the text message or email from att if you were under 10gb
    1. hendon's Avatar
      hendon -
      No,i did not get any text
      In UK on 3 network we got a nice plan £25/month:
      Bring your phone to life
      with all-you-can-eat-data,
      2,000 minutes, 5,000 texts
      and 5,000 Three-to-Three
      minutes. www.three.co.uk
    1. CompFreak07's Avatar
      CompFreak07 -
      I agree completely with MikePA. People need to understand that they signed a contract and within that contract there are many things that you may not like but you cant complain after the fact. If there was something you didn't agree to then you should of A) never signed the contract to begin with or B) take complete responsibility for the consequences of your actions if you decided to break any part of the contract. You sir, are also correct that most of the people who post things like that are also people posting things about GeoHot's lawsuit that are incorrect because they don't take the time to do some research and instead just say whatever they believe is right without any facts. I don't think that csglinux should be called out like that though, because for him this may be something new that he didn't know that could happen and it is just a opinion even though he stated it like a fact. But I sometimes get aggregated with people just like you do but its comments like those and probably this one (lol) that sometimes just need to be left alone because post like this don't really contribute anything important. Sorry for the RANT ModMyi. I will do my best to not let it happen again

      EDIT: After reading the complete post from csglinux and not just the small quote I believe MikePA was right in calling him out. Sorry MikePA
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by hendon View Post
      No,i did not get any text
      In UK on 3 network we got a nice plan £25/month:
      Bring your phone to life
      with all-you-can-eat-data,
      2,000 minutes, 5,000 texts
      and 5,000 Three-to-Three
      minutes. Mobile phones, Mobile Broadband & SIMs from Three
      The situation in the UK is very different from that in the US.
      And there is no such thing as UNLIMITED data.
      The advertising standards authority should clamp down on such gross misrepresentation.
      If you exceed your data allowance, you'll be asked to upgrade your plan or charged at ex-allowance rates.

      But 3-UK charge £16/month for a 15-GB data bolt-on.
    1. Moosestache's Avatar
      Moosestache -
      Quote Originally Posted by MikePA View Post
      Posts like this are tiresome, immature and wrong. They're worse than the posts by people with skulls full of mush who chant about a lawsuit.

      When you sign up for a data plan you agree to the Terms and Conditions and you agree to abide by them or suffer the penalty if you violate them when/if you're caught.

      The simple facts are;

      1. ATT could always identify people who were tethering.
      2. ATT has begun comparing this information to account information.
      3. ATT is notifying some of these people to pay up.
      Exactly, when we jail break our phones we are doing so at our own risk. We are using the iphones in a manner not approved of by apple or at&t and truthfully, illegally taking data from at&t. Now you have been caught, and instead of billing you for the past x months of illegal data they have tracked you using, they are simply warning you to cease and desist or they will put you on a plan that will accurately charge you for your use.

      It sort of sucks but I would say they are completely in the right on this one, and any thoughts of lawsuits or misrepresentation is silly. I would also be surprised if at&t was under any obligation to let you out of your current contract if they changed your plan based upon your unapproved usage. When you signed up, you agreed to live by their terms, if you aren't, which is the case, then you are at their mercy.
    1. CompFreak07's Avatar
      CompFreak07 -
      Quote Originally Posted by iphone925 View Post
      So now QUESTION I have unlimited plan Hopefully, only if I don't use tethering till the 27th so starting next month If i do tether After 27th say under 5gb will they still catch me ? I mean since some of you are thinking they are going for high bandwidth user I don't think 5gb is a lot but do you think they will still consider that as high bandwidth Let me know know if any of you has got the text message or email from att if you were under 10gb
      The 27th has nothing to do with anything. Could you please tell me where you pulled that number from. And if we could really get a dedicated thread to collect information and only put information relating to if you got the message or didnt, what firmware you are on, what iPhone you have, what version of MyWi or PDAnet you use and what is your data usage the current month and maybe even the previous month it would really help.

      Quote Originally Posted by hendon View Post
      No,i did not get any text
      In UK on 3 network we got a nice plan £25/month:
      Bring your phone to life
      with all-you-can-eat-data,
      2,000 minutes, 5,000 texts
      and 5,000 Three-to-Three
      minutes. Mobile phones, Mobile Broadband & SIMs from Three
      Now this is the kind of post that irritates me. We are talking about att here and you come and decide to tell us about a completely different network in a different country and what kind of deals you are getting. Ridiculous!!
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      @ Everyone, What happened to the unspoken rule about tethering:

      'Only use for surfing or 'occasional' downloading. Do not download large amounts of data because they can track it.'

      This has always been my understanding w/ tethering. We are supposed to stay below the radar while getting the convenience of extending the use of our phones through different devices. You've gotta realize that you did this to yourself.

      Use tethering for it's intended purpose and you should be fine!!!
    1. x2dope's Avatar
      x2dope -
      My 2 cents. AT&T isnt saying you are using too much data with your Unlimited plan...they are saying you are tethering, which to my knowledge is a feature you must pay to use with AT&T. So when you say you can do what you want with your unlimited data that is true, as long as you arent tethering because you thats a pay to use feature. Am I wrong? Do you see the logic in what I am saying? I seen ONE person say they dont tether AT ALL and received the letter, HE WOULD HAVE A CASE, the rest of you I would pay to see you go to court over this because you would LOSE (considering most of you also admitted to tethering on here which they would dig up and use against you). My advice is get some cash together and pay for internet, if thats not the case get some cash together and pay for the best tethering plan or switch from your cell company to another and wait to get the same letter from the new company.
    1. iphone925's Avatar
      iphone925 -
      Quote Originally Posted by CompFreak07 View Post
      The 27th has nothing to do with anything. Could you please tell me where you pulled that number from. And if we could really get a dedicated thread to collect information and only put information relating to if you got the message or didnt, what firmware you are on, what iPhone you have, what version of MyWi or PDAnet you use and what is your data usage the current month and maybe even the previous month it would really help.
      They sent me this email

      We've noticed your service plan may need updating.

      Many AT&T customers use their smartphones as a broadband connection for other devices, like laptops, netbooks or other smartphones– a practice commonly known as tethering. Tethering can be an efficient way for our customers to enjoy the benefits of AT&T's mobile broadband network and use more than one device to stay in touch with important people and information. To take advantage of this feature, we require that in addition to a data plan, you also have a tethering plan.

      Our records show that you use this capability, but are not subscribed to our tethering plan.

      If you would like to continue tethering, please log into
      your account online at Cell Phones and Cell Phone Plans - Wireless from AT&T, or call us
      at 1-888-860-6789 Monday - Friday, 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. CST
      or Saturday, 8 a.m. - 7 p.m. CST, by March 27, 2011
      to sign up for DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering.
      Here are details on the plan:

      DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering
      • $45 per month
      (this gives you 4GB in total, combining both your smartphone data plan for $25 and the tethering feature, $20)
      • $10 per each additional GB thereafter, added automatically as needed
      • Mobile Hotspot capabilities are included for compatible Smartphones

      If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you into DataPro 4GB after March 27, 2011. The new plan – whether you sign up on your own or we automatically enroll you – will replace your current smartphone data plan, including if you are on an unlimited data plan.

      If you discontinue tethering, no changes to your current plan will be required.

      It's easy to track your usage throughout the month so there are no bill surprises. For example, we send you free text messages when you reach 65, 90, and 100 percent of your plan's threshold. If you would like to monitor your account more closely, go to Wi-Fi Data & Tethering Data Plan - Wireless from AT&T to learn about other ways to track your data usage.

      As a reminder, our smartphone data plans also include unlimited usage of Wi-Fi at no additional charge. AT&T smartphone customers can use Wi-Fi at home or on-the-go at any one of our more than 23,000 U.S. hotspots already included in your data plan.

      Thank you for bringing your account up to date. We appreciate the opportunity to continue to serve your mobile broadband needs.

      Sincerely,

      AT&T

      this is where the 27th march date comes from

      I have IPHONE 4 Firmware 4.1

      Mywi Version 4.53.1

      This month usage 12gb

      Last month usage 8gb

      And when they said you were tethering today all i said I dont know what is tethering but i watch dish sling on my phone they said that is also tether and even listening to radio on phone is tethering and i said okay i will stop using my dish sling and she said if you stop tethering we wont change your data plan on 27th and then i get to keep my so called UNLIMITED DATA PLAN.
    1. MrObatres's Avatar
      MrObatres -
      what part of unlimited data does at&t not get? I signed a contract saying unlimited and thata what I'm doing
    1. aimetti's Avatar
      aimetti -
      question

      what difference does it make if i have unlimited data on my iphone or if i browse the web on my laptop tethered.

      OH ya , nothing.
    1. YuckiestMilf's Avatar
      YuckiestMilf -
      Idunno if this needs to be a new thread or not but im sure yall will inform me. On fox news they are saying that att is putting a cap on dsl and uverse internet usage. 150 gigs on DSL and 250 gigs on uverse. I live in the country in TX and have att dsl service. I cut the cable companies and download everything i watch. ATT has "rights" to my area according to comcast whom i just called. NOW this BS about tethering? WTF? Does att control the internet now? Im at a loss as of what to do now! Just throwin in my 2 cents.
    1. CompFreak07's Avatar
      CompFreak07 -
      x2dope you do make very valid points.

      Quote Originally Posted by iphone925 View Post
      And when they said you were tethering today all i said I dont know what is tethering but i watch dish sling on my phone they said that is also tether and even listening to radio on phone is tethering and i said okay i will stop using my dish sling and she said if you stop tethering we wont change your data plan on 27th and then i get to keep my so called UNLIMITED DATA PLAN.
      Iphone925, thank you for letting me know where you came up with that info. I noticed that bignighttrain posted the e-mail he received here AT&T Cracking Down on MyWi Tethering? and it has the same date. I was under the impression at first that the date in the e-mail was somehow based on each individuals billing cycle but the same date is on both yours and his. To answer your original questions, because we still don't have concrete proof that they can tell your tethering or if they go by high data usage we cant be sure that just by not tethering until after that date, will stop them from changing your plan if you do have high data usage. I would consider high to be around 10GB or so but some people may think differently. Also, I don't know who you talked to with at att but if you had there name i would call back and start asking questions and complain to them that what you use are apps that you bought from the app store and to have them give you a detailed explanation of how that can be considered tethering. Read them the definition of tethering from here and see what they come back with Tethering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Quote Originally Posted by MrObatres View Post
      what part of unlimited data does at&t not get? I signed a contract saying unlimited and thata what I'm doing
      Quote Originally Posted by aimetti View Post
      question

      what difference does it make if i have unlimited data on my iphone or if i browse the web on my laptop tethered.

      OH ya , nothing.

      I agree that it is false advertising and the so called bait and switch technique but there is fine print that defines what they consider unlimited and I can almost bet that it says somewhere what the internet can be used for and it probably goes something like the phone only! The difference is its more money for them and even though I think it is wrong you must play by the rules of there contract or take them to court and try and battle it out which I wouldn't suggest because they have this little thing with your signature on it and they already know what all the fine print says.
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by aimetti View Post
      question

      what difference does it make if i have unlimited data on my iphone or if i browse the web on my laptop tethered.

      OH ya , nothing.
      Unlike laptops, non-power users' phones won't be downloading desktop-res webpages or high-res videos - so less bandwidth consumption.

      Plus they can't charge your friends for data, if they're tethering through you.
    1. maddawg05's Avatar
      maddawg05 -
      I didn't read thru all 200 replies so I apologize if this has already been mentioned. AT&T is definitely unable to see exactly if you're tethering or not. It's how much data you're using that's triggering the email/text. I use to think the cutoff was 5GB eventhough it says unlimited. Well if you ever wanted to get out of your contract this would be the time because I'm pretty sure you can use the automatic 'upgrade' to your plan to threaten them on a legality basis. Or maybe this is AT&T's intent? To get the big users to leave? Who knows.
    1. iNT3Rv3NTiONZz's Avatar
      iNT3Rv3NTiONZz -
      Quote Originally Posted by CptPalmer View Post
      I do not see how they can know you are using tethering as a jailbreak for 4.3 is not even out yet, so they must be able to figure this out at even 4.2.1 Sad day it is.
      What? They can obviously see the amount of data their customers are using, so if a user has regular, long bursts of dramatically increased data usage then they can see they've been tethering... Its not rocket science (unfortunately) lolz


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      5.1 gb
      Fw 4.1
      Combo of MyWi and tetherme
      No email or text message.

      Most of it is from AppStore updates as I have 7.5gbs of apps on my phone.