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  • Flash Losing Ground to HTML5 for Web Video


    As the battle for web standards continues to wages on, HTML5 is quickly gaining ground over Flash. According to MeFeedia who recently surveyed sites using both Flash and HTML5 to deliver online video, 54% of web video is now available in HTML5, up from just 10% five months ago. Web developers are quickly making the switch to HTML5 faster than ever, or at least making content available using either standard. Many websites can now tell the difference between devices trying to access online video, then load content using the best format for that particular device.

    Flash may still be the dominant player on desktop computers, but its quickly loosing ground to HTML5. Mobile devices now make up a huge percentage of video streaming and Flash does not work well on the few devices that support it. Adobe has never been able to demonstrate Flash performing satisfactorily to Steve Jobs and because of this, Flash has not been made available for iOS devices. This may change at some point in the future, however, as Apple recently loosened the rules for app developers. iOS users may one day be able to watch Flash content, but I doubt it will be anytime soon. Apple and Adobe are not exactly on the best of term at the moment.

    Flash has a very poor track record when it comes to video performance on mobile devices. As more and more people watch video on their mobile phones, HTML5 is currently the easiest solution for web developers to use. As long as Adobe is unable to improve the performance of Flash on mobile devices, they will never be able to compete with HTML5.

    Steve Jobs offered his Thoughts on Flash six months ago and concluded that Flash was an inferior technology rooted in the past and that the future of web development was HTML5. Now it appears the web is beginning to turn its back on Flash and embrace HTML5, just as Steve predicted.

    Most people canít tell the difference between Flash and HTLM5 content and that is a good thing. As long as there is competition in the marketplace, developers will be forced to continue making innovations in order to survive. This can only be a good thing for you and me. As long as people continue watching their favorite shows online, does it really matter what web standard Hulu is currently using? Back in the good old days the biggest problems watching TV was getting good reception.

    Source: Cult of Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Flash Losing Ground to HTML5 for Web Video started by Wiley John Wright View original post
    Comments 55 Comments
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by agent005 View Post
      Just because HTML5 makes it incredibly easy to have video playback, doesn't mean it's a superior product. You can't exactly have interactive webpages with HTML.
      Since when?

      HTML5 Interactive Playground | Designs Collage

      HTML5 Presentation

      Interactive HTML5 canvas animation | PaulHamill.com

      Wow, and all that took 5 seconds to Google.
    1. thetoothfairy's Avatar
      thetoothfairy -
      I am happy that HTML5 is going to be our future! Poor Adobe! lol
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Any move that benefits the end-user is always a good move. They are the most important part of any model.
    1. iLoveWindows&iPhone's Avatar
      iLoveWindows&iPhone -
      100% off topic....sorry!

      But go SF Giants baby!!!! Wooooo!!!!!! Absolutely amazing! I just had to say something!!

      Okay sorry.... Back to the exciting argument of flash vs. HTML5....
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      I have to go with HTML5. It is amazing. Sorry Flash, but you p*ss off my MacBook Pro.
    1. Trist06's Avatar
      Trist06 -
      I think the fact that HTML5 is an open standard should be enough to warrant a switch

      HTML5 > Flash
    1. chris-tt's Avatar
      chris-tt -
      I have to agree with everyone who has said this is just a compatibility thing.
      The simple fact is most browsers people are using on the Internet don't support HTML5. More to the point if you're browser supports both Flash & HTML5 most web designers make Flash the default media player.
      Flash is a long way from being dead, I refuse to buy an iPad until there is flash support as it would become my main web browsing device. What's the point if I have to revert back to my laptop/desktop everytime I stumble across a flash webpage I want to view that doesn't support HTML5?
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by agent005 View Post
      Steve didn't predict ****. He's one of the head honchos right now pushing HTML5.

      Flash isn't just for video playback, either. Interactive webpages utilize Flash. A lot of portfolio websites are made in Flash.

      Just because HTML5 makes it incredibly easy to have video playback, doesn't mean it's a superior product. You can't exactly have interactive webpages with HTML.

      It's because websites are trying to make money. If they make their web content available on more devices, thus gaining more exposure, the more money/cost effective the website itself is. That's the only reason HTML5 is gaining ground.

      If the "Apple Gods" didn't support HTML5, and supported something else, THAT would be gaining ground. Sites are just trying to reach the largest target market. Apple refuses to conform to anything, or compromise; it's their way, or no way. If you don't do what Apple wants, they'll just take their ball and go home.

      Don't give Jobs credit for being able to predict ****. And don't blame Flash for being an "inferior technology". Both are irrelevant.
      Lol. For smartphones Flash is inferior! It doesn't matter what the reason is for HTML gaining ground, it's gaining ground, that's all that matters. Why use something that takes up more memory and is buggy when you can use something that works...and that something just happens to be what Steve Jobs said it would be..HTML 5! Very good predictor! Huzzah!
    1. Aldog18's Avatar
      Aldog18 -
      wooo HTML5!!
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      Quote Originally Posted by zoragon View Post
      I sware Steve has a crystal ball that tells him the future of technology. It's the only way he's always right to what is the new standard. I mean he saw that the mouse should be a way of input back in the day, he saw iPods and iTunes as the way of the music industry, he saw opened new doors into a new market (the tablet market) when everyone said it will fail, he saw that HTML 5 is the way to go and many more. There's no other explanation!

      funny, has to be true
    1. rajsukul's Avatar
      rajsukul -
      Quote Originally Posted by jiniej View Post
      More like: Flash has a very poor track record... Period.
      Agreed
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      HTML5 is great for the mobile world, but they are going to actually have to develope standards that it adheres to. Otherwise it will be like Android. 10 different versions that are not quite compatible with everybody.
    1. iTouch-Warrior's Avatar
      iTouch-Warrior -
      I really couldn't care less about which one is superior, but I agree that flash really does hog all of the device's resources. In fact I use flash-blocking add-ons on all my web browsers on my computers, so I don't miss it a bit.
    1. mudrock1000's Avatar
      mudrock1000 -
      Yea I'm gonna call BS on everyone claiming HTML5 is this superior product. Why is it getting popular? Because everyone wants a slice of the apple pie and advertisements. Flash isn't going anywhere because it's more than JUST video playback. It's an interactive development platform. Honestly Flash runs fine on my phone. Idk where this Flash runs awful on mobile platforms is coming from. The reason people say it runs bad is because it's harder to play a game on a phone. That's me though :P

      If Steve was pushing number two, that'd probably be popular too. xD
      I'll give it some time and wait.
    1. aperry's Avatar
      aperry -
      Maybe someone can help me out here: This chart proves that more and more h.264 content is becoming available in HTML5 playback. How does this prove that "Flash is losing ground to HTML5"? Where's the chart that shows he change over time in "content available for Flash playback versus content available for HTML5 playback"?

      I'm very suspect of charts that show a skewed and tangential data. But then again, maybe I'm just interpreting this incorrectly.

      Btw, I love HTML5. No issues with it.
    1. Christian Bale's Avatar
      Christian Bale -
      Those stats seems BS. 54% already? I don't believe it. All the pr0n sites are still using flash except youporn that is slowly encoding their videos to html5. 54% is BS.
    1. HappyMac's Avatar
      HappyMac -
      Quote Originally Posted by mudrock1000 View Post
      Yea I'm gonna call BS on everyone claiming HTML5 is this superior product. Why is it getting popular? Because everyone wants a slice of the apple pie and advertisements. Flash isn't going anywhere because it's more than JUST video playback. It's an interactive development platform. Honestly Flash runs fine on my phone. Idk where this Flash runs awful on mobile platforms is coming from. The reason people say it runs bad is because it's harder to play a game on a phone. That's me though :P

      If Steve was pushing number two, that'd probably be popular too. xD
      I'll give it some time and wait.
      You've got to be kidding me. Have you ever seen or used flash on an iOS device? It plain sucks, and HTML5 doesnt eat at battery like its candy like flash does. You can argue the fact that HTML5 is just for video playback, but it's not. Go to the presentation. Does a whole lot more than video. Plus, who would even play a flash game on a mobile device? Practically all of them need a keyboard. HTML5 is by far less buggy than flash,and its great for mobile platforms.
    1. Christian Bale's Avatar
      Christian Bale -
      Quote Originally Posted by rocky5 View Post
      So what this article tells us is nothing bar more websites now have HTML5 compatibility.

      so
      HTML5 54%
      Flash 100%

      as nearly all sites that support HTML5 were using Flash and probably still do as like the person stated on page 1 that there just opening the doors for a wider audience.

      On a side note I hate Apple forums as some of the users are brain washed numpties that see a head line (or something from Jobs lips) and take it 100% literally, flash is still on nearly ever webpage out there and is still strong, I don't see punk-o-matic (well good game) in HTML5 format or any decent flash game for that matter.

      HTML5 mobile devices
      Flash everything else

      and flash doesn't crash Mac's Jobs quick to point the blame as we found out with the Antennagate fiasco.

      bring on the haters lol
      100% agree. Flash isn't being replaced. And 99% of people here are biased brainwashed sheep fanboys.

      Quote Originally Posted by HappyMac View Post
      You've got to be kidding me. Have you ever seen or used flash on an iOS device? It plain sucks, and HTML5 doesnt eat at battery like its candy like flash does. You can argue the fact that HTML5 is just for video playback, but it's not. Go to the presentation. Does a whole lot more than video. Plus, who would even play a flash game on a mobile device? Practically all of them need a keyboard. HTML5 is by far less buggy than flash,and its great for mobile platforms.
      I can believe people are actually using Comex's frash to judge Flash performance on iOS devices. I mean come on it sucks because all you've seen is basically an hack made by 16 year old. And it's still beta which doesn't really matter since it's still not made by Adobe. Now if you're talking about Macs which aren't iOS then it's only macs because flash doesn't crash on my windows laptop.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by Christian Bale View Post
      100% agree. Flash isn't being replaced. And 99% of people here are biased brainwashed sheep fanboys.



      I can believe people are actually using Comex's frash to judge Flash performance on iOS devices. I mean come on it sucks because all you've seen is basically an hack made by 16 year old. And it's still beta which doesn't really matter since it's still not made by Adobe. Now if you're talking about Macs which aren't iOS then it's only macs because flash doesn't crash on my windows laptop.
      No, it doesn't crash one either of my systems (one Mac & one PC), but to pretend that it isn't a bloated resource hog is absolutely foolish.

      I don't understand why so many people are anti-HTML5. Other than updating to new versions of your web browsers (which should be done anyways), it requires absolutely nothing of you on the user-end of things.

      Also, why are people looking at Jobs as being so responsible for this? It was an inevitability. Same people that say he's responsible for eliminating the cd drive. These things are happening regardless of what Steve says. Technology evolves and advances, plain and simple.
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    1. Rob_Quads's Avatar
      Rob_Quads -
      Quote Originally Posted by Christian Bale View Post
      Those stats seems BS. 54% already? I don't believe it. All the pr0n sites are still using flash except youporn that is slowly encoding their videos to html5. 54% is BS.
      Exactly its a specific stat that doesn't really mean much without context.

      How much of ALL video is h264? How much of ALL video is in HTML5? I suspect its still only a fraction but then that would not be an all signing all dancing headline.