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  • Why No Facebook Support in Ping?


    Many Apple users worldwide have spent some time scratching their heads over the new iTunes feature called Ping. Apple's so-called "social network for music" is supposed to let users follow artists and bands, as well as find out what their friends are listening to. However, there's no way to connect with friends, other than spamming them with email, because despite the fact that Facebook interconnectivity is still - up to this moment - advertised on Apple's site, Ping still doesn't have it. Steve Jobs blames Facebook, claiming they wanted too much.

    In an interview by Kara Swisher at All Things D, Jobs says Apple was in talks with Facebook over Ping, but the two companies were unable to come to an agreement. He was quoted as saying Facebook wanted "onerous terms that we could not agree to." When Swisher asked what the hangup was, Jobs declined to elaborate. She pressed him on whether iTunes could support Facebook Connect to allow sharing between the two platforms. The Apple CEO was noncommittal. 'We could, I guess,' he shrugged.

    It seems pretty clear that the hooks were in for Facebook support, and that they were only pulled at the very last minute when negotiations broke down, as Facebook connectivity was touted on slides during Steve Jobs's presentation yesterday. The tutorial video on Ping promises that "once you get set up, you can find your Facebook friends who have Ping profiles," and the Ping page on Apple's website says you can "find even more music fans with a quick search, by sending email invites, or by connecting to your Facebook account." And according to several Cult of Mac readers, the Facebook Connect button appeared on Ping yesterday, though it didn't allow them to find any friends.

    Steve Jobs bragged about the "160 million credit cards" Apple has on file through iTunes, so maybe he's trying to make sure he doesn't have to share too much of the booty with Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg. Whatever the cause, it'd be surprising if Apple remains aloof much longer. Having a Ping page right now is like having a fax machine in the early 70s: useless unless you can find someone else who has one. Whether Jobs likes it or not, Facebook and other social media platforms like Twitter are how people find each other these days.

    Source: AppleInsider
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Why No Facebook Support in Ping? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 36 Comments
    1. politicalslug's Avatar
      politicalslug -
      This is totally F'd in the A without Facebook. I did a few searches and it won't allow you to follow artists unless they have themselves already setup a page. I suppose that works for a few artists, but not most and certainly not for any bands no longer around (unless fan pages start popping up).
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      This is exactly like how Apple advertised MMS on the iPhone and pulled it back.

      Ping won't go anywhere without Facebook.
    1. ronfin44's Avatar
      ronfin44 -
      Dear Steve Jobs,

      Even Facebook owns you.

      Sincerely,

      Everyone.
    1. tudtran's Avatar
      tudtran -
      Ping is a stupid name. Apple could come up with a better name.
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      Quote Originally Posted by tudtran View Post
      Ping is a stupid name. Apple could come up with a better name.
      How about bing?
    1. iphone4idiots's Avatar
      iphone4idiots -
      This looks pretty bad since it doesn’t Facebook connect. What are you supposed to email all your friends??? Would someone mind following me so I can mess with it some more. Just search for Kurt Cobain. What? You think I should have become the 6th Justin Bieber???
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      Facebook sucks and there security is shite so if Appl£ are really that security concious they would neveruse the farcebook route
    1. PcTran's Avatar
      PcTran -
      Ping will be infested with sexual predators like Dunder Mifflin Infinity.
    1. AKCHRIS's Avatar
      AKCHRIS -
      Yeah that's Sad since Facebook is Vary Popular.I'd go as far as to say more popular than Myspace. I think Steve should have Sucked it up and Allowed facebook to simply add it. It's not like FB is asking For Secrets..lmao
    1. zozodouce's Avatar
      zozodouce -
      fail
    1. Tyronal's Avatar
      Tyronal -
      Quote Originally Posted by macsoldier View Post
      I wonder what facebook side of the story is or even the contract details and price, should be public since it was on the ping site people deserve to know what happend in full detail
      Facebook allows interconnection between other sites, apps and so on, using their API for free and without permission. It's to their benefit. But with 160 million registered users on itunes, 10% of that alone would swamp facebook and overload servers if they used ping to find facebook friends. FB wouldn't let apple use their API's without permission. These were the conditions that have been referred to in the discussions between apple and FB. This one isn't about money it's about volume. Read here: Exclusive: Apple Dropped Facebook Connection From Ping After Being Blocked | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD

      I'm wondering if this is why the release of itunes 10 was late?
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      Quote Originally Posted by PcTran View Post
      Ping will be infested with sexual predators like Dunder Mifflin Infinity.
    1. Tyronal's Avatar
      Tyronal -
      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      Jobs claims they wanted too much...
      How does it feel with the shoes on the other foot Jobs!
      I hope they stay separate, people can just use Facebook if they want them.
      I'm sorry, where did you read that? Coz this is what I read. Exclusive: Apple Dropped Facebook Connection From Ping After Being Blocked | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD
    1. anschnaller's Avatar
      anschnaller -
      Ping is going to be a big flop i really dont think that it is going to catch on. there are to many people that hate using itunes. and only use it for there ipod cause they have to.a lot of them being windows users y is that?
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyronal View Post
      I'm sorry, where did you read that?
      From the author of this thread is where I read it and here I quote:

      Quote Originally Posted by Paul Acciavatti View Post
      Steve Jobs blames Facebook, claiming they wanted too much.
    1. vcaulkins5700's Avatar
      vcaulkins5700 -
      Ping? Bing? Pretty close Microsoft