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  • EU Gets Involved with FTC's Probe Into Apple's Rejection of Flash



    If it continues to baffle you that Apple's opposition to Flash remains in the headlines, you're not alone. But when more and more big players and powerhouses join the investigation into Apple's decision to reject Flash, the story is difficult to ignore.

    It now appears European Union regulators have joined the party along with the US Federal Trade Commission in probing why Apple continues to block Adobe Flash from its iOS product line. Today, The New York Post reported the EU's alleged intervention saying that the regulators may have been involved since June in the ongoing investigation as to whether "Apple's business practices harm competition."

    European regulators have teamed with the Federal Trade Commission in probing Apple's policies for mobile software developers, The Post has learned.
    According to the report, the suspected ongoing investigation could linger on until the start of 2011. But the move on the part of the European Union comes as the EU just adopted "a new Digital Agenda" with the expressed goal of "encouraging the interoperability of technology" - something Adobe has argued for all along.

    Of course, it isn't yet clear if all these investigations will ultimately result in any significant developments or added pressure on Apple to accept the technology it continues to shun. But one thing is for sure. Apple may have moved on from Flash. But regulators have not. And, until they do, this story simply won't go away.

    New York Post
    This article was originally published in forum thread: EU Gets Involved with FTC's Probe Into Apple's Rejection of Flash started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 45 Comments
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyronal View Post
      Please show proof of "VAST" numbers wanting flash on iphone. Not one person I know with an iphone has mentioned the no flash issue.
      The fact that most websites uses flash in one way or another, the fact that many of these programmer also have iPhones. The fact that there is enough demand for it that someone wrote frash. The fact the original poster + me and many of my friends wants it. The fact Adobe sees iPhone market big enough that they are willing to fight for them.
      Who would not want to have the option of use flash? Yes it may not work well, but there is a time when you wish you can use it maybe it was an emergency. I know I had an emergency and I need to find the address, but the website using flash I can not even get out of opening screen for other options to search. Freaking had to call someone to get on the website to find the address for me, I know I wished I had it then.
      And to the people who keep bringing up html5 and all this other software that works better than flash. How many websites is using it right now? I would love to do this option can you give me a date when this is going to happen? Since you say flash is going to be a memory hog + wears down battery and such, what is there to guarantee that html5 and all these other options do not do the same? Most importantly where is it on my iPhone???
      I know Adobe will release something for iPhone right when Jobs gives the nod, I would not be able to say the same for the "other options".
    1. Mes's Avatar
      Mes -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cer0 View Post
      ...They are still their own os and only able to be put on 1 piece of hardware...

      Nobody owns the iOS but Apple...
      Actually MacOS and Apples newly named iOS are not new. Not even close! What's new is the hardware and to a lesser extent the GUI. The great OS's are just derivites of Unix developed 30+ years ago. Much of the basic MacOS still uses open-source and hardware-independant code. The pieces Apple writes from scratch are Apples' sole and complete control. Hardware dependancies are a part of all OS's. Some are more or less restrictive than others. Apple (and many others) have consistently taken open-source code, slightly modified it, then claim originality and exclusivity. I know this as a fact ... I was part of the original Unix dev team. It is VERY EASY to find original 30+ year-old Unix code in every MacOS, iOS, *ux, Ubuntu, etc, etc.
    1. Tyronal's Avatar
      Tyronal -
      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      The fact that most websites uses flash in one way or another, the fact that many of these programmer also have iPhones. The fact that there is enough demand for it that someone wrote frash. The fact the original poster + me and many of my friends wants it. The fact Adobe sees iPhone market big enough that they are willing to fight for them.
      Who would not want to have the option of use flash? Yes it may not work well, but there is a time when you wish you can use it maybe it was an emergency. I know I had an emergency and I need to find the address, but the website using flash I can not even get out of opening screen for other options to search. Freaking had to call someone to get on the website to find the address for me, I know I wished I had it then.
      And to the people who keep bringing up html5 and all this other software that works better than flash. How many websites is using it right now? I would love to do this option can you give me a date when this is going to happen? Since you say flash is going to be a memory hog + wears down battery and such, what is there to guarantee that html5 and all these other options do not do the same? Most importantly where is it on my iPhone???
      I know Adobe will release something for iPhone right when Jobs gives the nod, I would not be able to say the same for the "other options".
      Nobody's holding a gun to your head so why not get a phone that does what you want instead of jumping up and down like chimp and going on a childish rant? And what sites do you speak of that are so important to you that it HAS to be viewed on the phone, not on your pc? And how incredibly inconvenient to have to use the phone, as a phone and ask for an address, OMG this is a horrible injustice. Call the U.N. Oh please, I'm over all the ranting "I want I want I want". Build a bridge and get over it, flash on iphone=never. Get a life and take your rants to people who care. Adobe haven't coded flash for iphone and by their standards it would take 2 years to do so. Where's flash for windows mobile? A fully functioning flash!! How about you go to adobe and ask for flash code and go off and write a version for the iphone. Oh wait, it's a closed standard, you won't be allowed to. OOPS! Go away, have a try of flash on any other mobile device and then come back and tell me it's worth having. Would you be happy to have your battery die in a couple of hours viewing flash and/or have the browser crash while running flash? I bet you'd jump up and down come here write a rant and call for the death of jobs. Sell your terrible iphone and buy something else. You DO have a choice you know!!!
    1. Mes's Avatar
      Mes -
      Why is the response always 'You have a choice!!' when someone presents a logical and rational reason for supporting flash?

      I know why .... they're mesmerized by the Apple spin-machine and can't see the forest for the trees (Hahaha
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by crisco9071 View Post
      I could really care less now.
      That means you care a lot.
      Perhaps what you meant to say was "I couldN'T really care less now" ?
      Hardly rocket science.