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  • AT&T Makes Telling Revelation to the SEC



    It's one thing when "sources" indicate that AT&T will end exclusivity agreements for prominent smartphones, but its another when AT&T references that possibility itself. That's exactly what's happened in the carrier's latest filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    AT&T stated that the company would continue to thrive long after its exclusive agreements expire, a suggestion that is certainly raising eyebrows as this is a significant indicator that AT&T may soon break its exclusive grip on several hugely popular smartphones - one of which is near and dear to this community, although the iPhone was not referenced by name.

    "Offering a number of attractive handsets on an exclusive basis distinguishes us from our competitors," AT&T's filing states. "As these exclusivity arrangements end, we expect to continue to offer such handsets (based on historical industry practice), and we believe our service plan offerings will help to retain our customers by providing incentives not to move to a new carrier."

    Apple Insider reported that Steven Fox, analyst with CLSA, thinks AT&T's comments come as a means to "prepare investors for the end of exclusivity of the iPhone." He called the comments "significant new language about exclusivity," which most likely is directed at the iPhone.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: AT&T Makes Telling Revelation to the SEC started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 67 Comments
    1. Levirules's Avatar
      Levirules -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      Well, I guess we can at least be thankful this wasn't titled "ATT admits exclusivity contract will soon be over"



      LOL that was always EVER the only significance.
      What about T-Mobile owners who want to take advantage of their 3G network?
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by westerman View Post
      In att contract starting november 6th all smart phones must have a data plan and in the apple contract as well it says the same thing. Att interest is your money its a business they run a business you have to pay to play.
      You have to read his post better.
      He did not buy it from AT&T, bought the phone without contract.
      So AT&T do not have the right to put data on his plan without his permission.
      To original poster, you need to speak with the manager... These peons do not know what they are doing, getting paid minimum wage they wouldn't care. Manager will make sure you will be taken care of, especially when you mention how many times you had to do this and getting pissed off.

      Quote Originally Posted by rkswat View Post
      LoL.... you have an iPhone with at-t and you HAVE to have data... no choice in the matter. Don't want to pay for a data plan, don't use iPhone on at-t, simple.
      People read clearly... He did not buy from AT&T he is not under iPhone contract.
    1. Trooper Sam's Avatar
      Trooper Sam -
      Quote Originally Posted by inyuke View Post
      AT&T has been pissing me off lately.. EVERY month they add me cellular data when i dont even need it. They send me a txt message saying the iphone needs cellular data and that my phone was added to cellular data! and i have to call EVERY TIME for those retards to take it off.. i DID NOT buy the phone from AT&T so what is it their interest in monitoring what kind of phone i use?
      Thankfully, they've only done this to my old 3G, now used by my wife, once. The phone pictured on her line when viewing our account online is again an iPhone, but they've not tried to attach a data plan to her line again. Perhaps I screamed loud enough?

      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      People read clearly... He did not buy from AT&T he is not under iPhone contract.
      Doesn't matter. Their agreement with Apple, and their terms of service say "iPhone=data plan".
    1. Buffolus's Avatar
      Buffolus -
      It's about time.0r is it the rosh to the end

      Apples makes mistake on antenna so At&hell is out

      Well version is coming now!!!!!!!
    1. Cowboy's Avatar
      Cowboy -
      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      You have to read his post better.
      He did not buy it from AT&T, bought the phone without contract.
      So AT&T do not have the right to put data on his plan without his permission.
      To original poster, you need to speak with the manager... These peons do not know what they are doing, getting paid minimum wage they wouldn't care. Manager will make sure you will be taken care of, especially when you mention how many times you had to do this and getting pissed off.



      People read clearly... He did not buy from AT&T he is not under iPhone contract.
      That doesnt matter i am not in contract either but you need to read the iphone user agreements you must have the data plan if you can show in a document were it says if you by an iphone from a buddy you dont have to have the data plan ill give you a dollar!
    1. Buffolus's Avatar
      Buffolus -
      Their CDMA coming to apple store this month
    1. cultgti's Avatar
      cultgti -
      Come on Tmobile please get the phone.. and yes it is a big deal because I want my damn 3g!!
    1. Bluemoldycheeze88's Avatar
      Bluemoldycheeze88 -
      I don't think their will be CDMA version of the iphone period.. If anything they will stick with their GSM Build and Share it with AT&T and T-Mobile.. I can possibly see them starting to offer an unlocked iPhone at full retail price or a discounted iphone with a service plan from either at&t or t-mobile respectably.
    1. foxmax's Avatar
      foxmax -
      I have a gut feeling that it will also move to t-mobile and quite possibly sprint... Is to much hustle for apple to built a cdma iPhone. It would make sense for them to do so. Don't you think?
    1. iLoveWindows&iPhone's Avatar
      iLoveWindows&iPhone -
      I want everyone to be able to
      Get the iPhone!! I have about 10 close friends that would buy an iPhone today if they could do it on their service provider (verizon), the more the merrier!! Things like FaceTime r useless to me without others having the iPhone, along with other fun info sharing games and apps!

      Why all the hate and fuss! Does it make u feel special to be in the iPhone club while others can't??
    1. klouud's Avatar
      klouud -
      Really hope T-Mobile gets the iPhone because their prices are awesome! This will in turn make my at&t bill lower.
    1. foxmax's Avatar
      foxmax -
      Quote Originally Posted by SMokemyPole88 View Post
      I don't think their will be CDMA version of the iphone period.. If anything they will stick with their GSM Build and Share it with AT&T and T-Mobile.. I can possibly see them starting to offer an unlocked iPhone at full retail price or a discounted iphone with a service plan from either at&t or t-mobile respectably.
      Agree.. Correct me if I'm wrong, I know that iPhone 4 is avaiable all over Europe on different carriers. Is there a CDMA iPhone overthere yet? As far as I know, nope.....
    1. havoc0351's Avatar
      havoc0351 -
      AT&T and Verizon are almost the same in all aspects. They both have high charges if you cancel early, they both have similar phone and data plans for around the same price, and if they both had the iPhone there would be no difference. Here in California I have At&t and I get 3G everywhere I go. I live in San Diego but I travel up as far as Santa Maria so I know what I'm talking about. There hasn't been a place I have gone that has very little or no signal.
      My wife had Verizon and canceled her plan because she felt she was paying too much for what she was getting. One of my friends jumped on the iPhone band wagon a while ago because of his spotty service and he didn't like his old phone.
      I'm in the Marine Corps and everytime I go to a new base or leave for training in the middle of nowhere I always have reception while everyone else on different networks doesn't. That's just my experience though. Some people have horrible luck and happen to get screwed over a lot. If you're unhappy with At&t by all means make the jump and free up the network please.
      All I know is that if you buy an iPhone with Verizon you're stuck on CDMA but if you buy one from Apple or At&t you can pick your poison from a variety of networks.
      Question, since you can't make a call and surf the web on the CDMA network how would that affect Verizons iPhone? Anyone know?
    1. Trooper Sam's Avatar
      Trooper Sam -
      No CDMA iPhone has as of yet been created. There has been talk of Apple working on a CDMA iPhone in order to expand their market in China. If they do so, then you can look at the iPhone coming to other CDMA carriers.

      Quote Originally Posted by havoc0351 View Post
      Question, since you can't make a call and surf the web on the CDMA network how would that affect Verizons iPhone? Anyone know?
      You'll have an iPhone that can't do simultaneous voice and data, that's how it'll affect it. I think a lot of users would make that choice. Not me, but a lot.
    1. foxmax's Avatar
      foxmax -
      Quote Originally Posted by iLoveWindows&iPhone View Post
      I want everyone to be able to
      Get the iPhone!! I have about 10 close friends that would buy an iPhone today if they could do it on their service provider (verizon), the more the merrier!! Things like FaceTime r useless to me without others having the iPhone, along with other fun info sharing games and apps!

      Why all the hate and fuss! Does it make u feel special to be in the iPhone club while others can't??
      There is no hate over here I do really hope every carrier gets it. The question is werthere apple will commit to it. I think it will happen but not for while....
    1. havoc0351's Avatar
      havoc0351 -
      Quote Originally Posted by iLoveWindows&iPhone View Post
      I want everyone to be able to
      Get the iPhone!! I have about 10 close friends that would buy an iPhone today if they could do it on their service provider (verizon), the more the merrier!! Things like FaceTime r useless to me without others having the iPhone, along with other fun info sharing games and apps!
      I agree, I only use Facetime with about 3 people! Man that sucks. My sister is on T-Mobile and it would be awesome if I could use Facetime with her. I'd like to see my neice more often since I live quite a bit aways...

      Quote Originally Posted by iLoveWindows&iPhone View Post
      Why all the hate and fuss! Does it make u feel special to be in the iPhone club while others can't??
      Yes, yes I do feel special!!!
    1. mikerlx's Avatar
      mikerlx -
      Guys your wrong. The rates will either be the same or make no sense to change iPhone carriers. Tmobile is cheap cuz they don't carry the iPhone and can't put u on a mandatory data plan.
    1. havoc0351's Avatar
      havoc0351 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Trooper Sam View Post
      You'll have an iPhone that can't do simultaneous voice and data, that's how it'll affect it. I think a lot of users would make that choice. Not me, but a lot.
      Exactly, so what would even be the point? It's like saying that Verizon just got the new iPhone that is exactly the same except there is no Facetime...

      That actually brings another question to mind. I wonder if Facetime would function properly since it has to switch from voice to data simultaneously.

      Quote Originally Posted by mikerlx View Post
      Guys your wrong. The rates will either be the same or make no sense to change iPhone carriers. Tmobile is cheap cuz they don't carry the iPhone and can't put u on a mandatory data plan.
      Actually, if T-mobile offered the iPhone the rates would probably still be cheap because the service is cheap. Remember, you get what you pay for and there is no way in hell I'd pay as much as I would on At&t or Verizon for T-mobile.

      My sister has T-mobile and she drops more calls than anyone else I know. Sometimes when I call her it says the number is no longer in service, disconnected or not taking any calls. I call back in a minute or two and it goes through fine. Once I couldn't call her all day but she could call me... weird.
    1. LastSonOfKrypton's Avatar
      LastSonOfKrypton -
      Quote Originally Posted by foxmax View Post
      I have a gut feeling that it will also move to t-mobile and quite possibly sprint... Is to much hustle for apple to built a cdma iPhone. It would make sense for them to do so. Don't you think?
      Well if it was such a hassle to build a CDMA iPhone how the heck would it go to Sprint?

      Sprint is CDMA! Think before you post.
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      lol, I thought it meant to NCAA confrence SEC