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  • iPhone to T-Mobile USA in Fall: Rumor

    Cult of Mac fronted a report last night saying that Apple and T-Mobile USA were close to concluding negotiations on bringing the iPhone to the fourth-largest US carrier. Cult of Mac's Leander Kahney quoted a "highly-placed source" as saying the deal was "80 percent likely" to go through in the third quarter of 2010, meaning this fall. While the report is pure rumor at this point, it is worth noting that Kahney has been around for a long time, and his sources are probably better than just "some guy at the T-Mobile store."

    There have been rumors of a second US carrier for years now; part of the mystery is that no one knows how long AT&T's exclusive contract with Apple is supposed to be in force. USA Today reported back in 2007 that it was a five-year contract, which was seemingly confirmed by some statements Apple made during a class-action suit against them and AT&T. If the deal is still in force, this would mean that the iPhone would be AT&T exclusively until 2012. And Apple has been tight-lipped about any changes in the arrangement, with executives continuously downplaying any talk of a second carrier. COO Tim Cook said during the Apple earnings call earlier this week that the company is "very happy to be partnering with AT&T, and they've been a first-class partner and really pioneered the smartphone growth from a network point of view in the US." He cut off any further explanation, concluding "that's all I have to say about that."

    While T-Mobile offers a benefit to Apple over Verizon in that T-Mobile uses the same GSM/UMTS standard as AT&T, T-Mobile's network operates on UMTS band IV - the so-called Advanced Wireless Services band - at 1700 and 2100 MHz. The iPhone 4 spec sheet only shows support for 850, 900, 1900 and 2100 MHz, so it would still probably require Apple to do a rework of the radio to move to the new carrier. Cult of Mac's article suggests that perhaps Apple "simply didn't list" 1700 MHz support, but it would be speculation to conclude either way.

    Apple refused to confirm or deny the report, and a T-Mobile rep simply said that T-Mobile does not comment on rumor or speculation."

    Source: Cult of Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone to T-Mobile USA in Fall: Rumor started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 105 Comments
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      Is that all they involve though? (I wouldn't know, just asking).
      Well replacing the radio with one that also supports T-Mobile's 3G should be relatively simpler than just switching to CDMA, which would also require a large amount of coding on the software side of things.

      But either change would require new hardware to even be possible.
    1. biofail's Avatar
      biofail -
      Eff this, I don't need the iphone coming to t-mobile so they can come out with some new expensive iphone plan that is required for all iphone users...I am perfectly content with my unlocked iphone and cheapo t-mobile data plan, thanks.
    1. virtusaeterna's Avatar
      virtusaeterna -
      Edge is actually not that slow for me. Back when I was able to use the internet2.voicestream.com loophole for edge, it was pretty speedy. Hell, it beat my school's wifi. And chances are, when I use internet, it's not going to be some life or death emergency in which I NEED 3G speeds. Sure it'd be nice to save time, but for me, it was bearable. And it's not like I'm completely focused on my phone. If it takes a while, I'll just chat with a friend or something.

      I guess this does kind of suck though--maybe. If TMo likes its users (btw, GREAT customer support!!), they won't try to screw us up our arses. Hopefully they will keep their unlimited data plans and won't charge like..25 a month for 5GB or something. I have a 3GS with TMo and I'm just glad that they have such friendly pricing. My family is paying less than 100$ a month right now for three lines, with unlimited texting. With data, it'll probably be higher, but it'd cost like 100+ for three lines, not one.

      I dunno. I hope TMo continues to offer such great pricing. And if not..ehh, we're contracted in to our current pricing anyway.
    1. Lecram25's Avatar
      Lecram25 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      Hint: they both involve replacing the radio.

      The radio has been capable since the iPhone 3G. It's the power amplifiers that matter.

      While Apple may list the iPhone 3G and 3GS as tri-band UMTS phones, they're both really quad-band. This is because a Band V (850 MHz) PA covers both Band V (850 MHz) and Band VI (800 MHz). It's just generally omitted since if a phone supports Band V (850 MHz), Band VI (800 MHz) is automatically covered.

      The same goes for the iPhone 4, which is really a penta-band phone via the addition of Band VIII (900 MHz).

      As far as CDMA, yes, the radio will need to be replaced (among other things).

      Three PAs at the bottom:

    1. ihaz3g's Avatar
      ihaz3g -
      the picture is a mytouch 3g for tmobile!!! photoshopped to look like an iphone

      Thank me hahah
    1. LadiesM4n's Avatar
      LadiesM4n -
      Look closely to the photo... The photo is cropped... edited..
    1. TylerC161's Avatar
      TylerC161 -
      Wow that is a terrible photoshop. I'm just saying.

      You can clearly see the cut corners and blended palm.
    1. corkey20000's Avatar
      corkey20000 -
      Please god come to TMO
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by TylerC161 View Post
      Wow that is a terrible photoshop. I'm just saying.

      You can clearly see the cut corners and blended palm.
      I can understand noobs pointing out the terrible photoshop job, but you have been on the site for three years now. Are you just now realizing they do crap photoshops?

      T-Mobile will not be an option for me until the phone can work on their 3G. I've used mywi on my old 2G a few times and it's no fun at all.
    1. kuhndsn's Avatar
      kuhndsn -
      Quote Originally Posted by mylonghornlife View Post
      For those of you that don't know, T-Mobile has their own "iPhone support division" that allows T-Mobile customers with an iPhone to call in with support questions and problems.

      I would think that with a support team dedicated to a phone that they don't even carry, the iPhone is a hot commodity with T-Mobile users.

      ...also consider T-Mobile was listed as one of the "brands to disappear in 2011," so it's not unfathomable to think they are trying everything they can to make this work and (possibly) save the company from fallout if they acquire the device.
      Their support for the iPhone is due in part because Tmobile carries the iPhone contract in Germany. I used them in Germany and the iPhone worked great. As for tmobile going away. I highly doubt that. They have more customers than ATT and Verizon combined globally with over 190 million customers. Ranking them 8th largest in the World.
    1. geekymom's Avatar
      geekymom -
      I beg to differ with you. I love t-Mobile and I DONT have dropped calls, maybe its the fact I live in WA but it's better service and more cost effective than any other service I've seen. And yes I've done my research and had other services. So don't bother coming off like a know it all. I know my area and what works for me!
    1. cultgti's Avatar
      cultgti -
      PNW tmobile is great!! Bring on the iPhone soon so I don't run to Canada for the unlocked one.
    1. smooth22's Avatar
      smooth22 -
      Cool if there pricing plan is cheaper if they go with T mobile.
    1. virtusaeterna's Avatar
      virtusaeterna -
      Quote Originally Posted by kuhndsn View Post
      As for tmobile going away. I highly doubt that. They have more customers than ATT and Verizon combined globally with over 190 million customers. Ranking them 8th largest in the World.
      You're definitely right. I think most people fail to understand that. Globally, TMo has a userbase much larger than ATT and VZW. T-Mobile USA, however, does not. What needs to be cleared up is that TMobile is actually not in any danger. They are not going away. The speculation is that only the USA subdivision of Tmobile will go away.
      And personally, that's not going to happen, I don't think. T-Mobile can afford to keep T-Mobile USA running. Admittedly they're not doing the best right now, but it's not going to go under. Why? It has such a strong driving force backing it.

      And as for the people commenting on the photoshop job...of course! MMi always has those sort of images. It's a current TMo commercial for the d-wade mytouch 3g. Nothing to get worked up over.
    1. XFaega's Avatar
      XFaega -
      I hope T-mobile does get the iPhone.
    1. rufus808's Avatar
      rufus808 -
      I hope it comes to T-mobile if not I am very tempted to join At&t with the new iPhone 4
    1. macsoldier's Avatar
      macsoldier -
      My wife used to work for t-mobile and I can assure you that these talks of the iphone have been going on for about two years now. It would be much easier for the switch to T-mobile and with the rep of the Iphone it would boost T-mobile and let them get up to date with service. This would also allow Apple to be able to lay down more of a contract favoring Apple due to T-mobile being fourth on the Top carriers list. In return the Iphones Rep would boost sales for T-mobile. At the same time If you dont have T-mobile signal you probably will soon, if they do get the Iphone and if you still dont have signal Im sure they will keep the Iphone with ATT so no worries and if you dont have either I would invest in two cans and a string.
    1. Doran's Avatar
      Doran -
      I would just like to point out to those that said they are with TMO right now with their unlocked iPhones. If it does go to TMO (That's a big IF) then it would stand to reason that you would have to buy a new iPhone, you would not be able to utilize the 3G using an unlocked + jailbroken AT&T one.
      But I say like the rest, I will believe it when I see it.
    1. macsoldier's Avatar
      macsoldier -
      T-mobile actually has a higher I guess you can put it as running service than ATT you can look up the specs on there site and then research ATT and you will find that T-Mobile can handle the Iphone and all of its users. This would also help there coverage area, as at first T-mobile would rent other cellphone towers then they would build there own to increase service in difficult areas. If you are thinking to yourself well post the facts that T-mobile can handle the Iphone and its users, my reply is go look it up and see for yourself.
    1. XFaega's Avatar
      XFaega -
      T-Mobile has had the iPhone on their network since iPhone came out. So yes they should be able to handle the load.