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  • iPhone to T-Mobile USA in Fall: Rumor


    Cult of Mac fronted a report last night saying that Apple and T-Mobile USA were close to concluding negotiations on bringing the iPhone to the fourth-largest US carrier. Cult of Mac's Leander Kahney quoted a "highly-placed source" as saying the deal was "80 percent likely" to go through in the third quarter of 2010, meaning this fall. While the report is pure rumor at this point, it is worth noting that Kahney has been around for a long time, and his sources are probably better than just "some guy at the T-Mobile store."

    There have been rumors of a second US carrier for years now; part of the mystery is that no one knows how long AT&T's exclusive contract with Apple is supposed to be in force. USA Today reported back in 2007 that it was a five-year contract, which was seemingly confirmed by some statements Apple made during a class-action suit against them and AT&T. If the deal is still in force, this would mean that the iPhone would be AT&T exclusively until 2012. And Apple has been tight-lipped about any changes in the arrangement, with executives continuously downplaying any talk of a second carrier. COO Tim Cook said during the Apple earnings call earlier this week that the company is "very happy to be partnering with AT&T, and they've been a first-class partner and really pioneered the smartphone growth from a network point of view in the US." He cut off any further explanation, concluding "that's all I have to say about that."

    While T-Mobile offers a benefit to Apple over Verizon in that T-Mobile uses the same GSM/UMTS standard as AT&T, T-Mobile's network operates on UMTS band IV - the so-called Advanced Wireless Services band - at 1700 and 2100 MHz. The iPhone 4 spec sheet only shows support for 850, 900, 1900 and 2100 MHz, so it would still probably require Apple to do a rework of the radio to move to the new carrier. Cult of Mac's article suggests that perhaps Apple "simply didn't list" 1700 MHz support, but it would be speculation to conclude either way.

    Apple refused to confirm or deny the report, and a T-Mobile rep simply said that T-Mobile does not comment on rumor or speculation."

    Source: Cult of Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone to T-Mobile USA in Fall: Rumor started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 105 Comments
    1. soulthoughts's Avatar
      soulthoughts -
      Quote Originally Posted by tekwiz View Post
      It is in Court, which I've already said, and so did the article linked to if you bothered to read it. They are using it as evidence in a case...
      I stand corrected. You've been thanked!
    1. tsatryan's Avatar
      tsatryan -
      The only thing different about this "news story" from other similar ones of late here on MMi is that it wasn't started by Messany.
    1. santacruzlocal's Avatar
      santacruzlocal -
      T-Mobile makes more sense than Verizon !!!
    1. delusion950's Avatar
      delusion950 -
      i like this idea. except t-mobile internet sucks
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by tsatryan View Post
      The only thing different about this "news story" from other similar ones of late here on MMi is that it wasn't started by Messany.
      The only difference between this post and your last one is that it ******** about something not written by Messany.

      Seriously why do people feel the need to comment like this? I agree that rumors are rumors are rumors (rumors are not news)... we get it. What good does you posting the same damn thing do?
    1. daytonaviolet's Avatar
      daytonaviolet -
      Quote Originally Posted by CMOSlabs View Post
      I have put at least 500 iPhones on Tmobile over the past 3 years. I'm sure there are 100's of thousands of iPhones already on Tmobile. It will be a good thing when At&t's Contract runs out
      i guess what others are saying.. the 3G portion of the iphone4, iphone3gs and iphone3 will not work in t-mobiles network. all you get is EDGE because of the frequencies required to get 3G.

      im sure all those 500 iphones work fine on tmobiles edge, but it kinda limits the phone without 3G
    1. RICO_'s Avatar
      RICO_ -
      I'm gonna scream at the next news thread post that begins with "Rumor" or ends with a "?"

      So many of them have either been incorrect, or undetermined to this point. If the facts aren't there then what is the point? All it does is stir up a bunch of hype and then piss everybody off when the "rumor" they were hoping would be true falls flat on its face.

      Case and point....the iPhone coming to Verizon multi-rumor. Now nobody will shut up about it. And if AT&T and Apple renew their contract for.....oh let's say....another 5 years......then we'll have a mob of angry Verizonatics equivalent to those of the reception issue.

      If you're the type that's easily disappointed then don't bother reading the threads that end in a "?" or have "Rumor" somewhere in the title. Chances are you will just end up being let down.
    1. soulthoughts's Avatar
      soulthoughts -
      Quote Originally Posted by RICO_ View Post
      I'm gonna scream at the next news thread post that begins with "Rumor" or ends with a "?"

      So many of them have either been incorrect, or undetermined to this point. If the facts aren't there then what is the point? All it does is stir up a bunch of hype and then piss everybody off when the "rumor" they were hoping would be true falls flat on its face.

      Case and point....the iPhone coming to Verizon multi-rumor. Now nobody will shut up about it. And if AT&T and Apple renew their contract for.....oh let's say....another 5 years......then we'll have a mob of angry Verizonatics equivalent to those of the reception issue.

      If you're the type that's easily disappointed then don't bother reading the threads that end in a "?" or have "Rumor" somewhere in the title. Chances are you will just end up being let down.
      That's the nature of a rumor...
    1. Buffolus's Avatar
      Buffolus -
      Apple an t-mobile should bin gone together you can beat them you join them 
    1. Luife's Avatar
      Luife -
      Quote Originally Posted by Neo0019 View Post
      The only way it will work, is if they could some how add the 1700MHZ via software or somenthing, but that is unrealistic...

      What's easier , add the 1700 MHz or remake the iPhone 4 mother board with the CDMA system ?
    1. Buffolus's Avatar
      Buffolus -
      No to CDMA version is out. cauz of it's much trouble
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      If this happens this will save T-mobile as they are in bad financial shape with possible take over by one of the other carriers!

      Go T-moble
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Luife View Post
      What's easier , add the 1700 MHz or remake the iPhone 4 mother board with the CDMA system ?
      Hint: they both involve replacing the radio.
    1. agray92024's Avatar
      agray92024 -
      Yes I have a iphone 3g unlocked and jailbroke on T-mobile for a year and a half and I just switched over to AT&T for the iphone 4. I would stick with t-mobile but why own a phone that doesn't use it full potential. The edge network is slow so when i'm not around wi-fi it is impossible to upload video or download any large file. So do yourself a favor drop T-mobile if your getting an iphone 4.
    1. stfudvs's Avatar
      stfudvs -
      iPhone 4 on tmobile isn't torture, remember it's more than just a phone, I've had every generation on tmobile (patiently waitingbon i4 unlock) on tmobile, sacrificing 3g for a contractless 65 a month is worth it to me as well many others I'm sure

      here's to hoping for i4 on tmobile legitimetly
    1. JEsTer10's Avatar
      JEsTer10 -
      Quote Originally Posted by stfudvs View Post
      iPhone 4 on tmobile isn't torture, remember it's more than just a phone, I've had every generation on tmobile (patiently waitingbon i4 unlock) on tmobile, sacrificing 3g for a contractless 65 a month is worth it to me as well many others I'm sure

      here's to hoping for i4 on tmobile legitimetly
      Same here. I am fine with sacrificing 3G but am lucky to usually be around Wi-Fi if needed. 3G will be nice when it happens but isn't enough incentive for me to switch to AT&T.
    1. PWNsyst3m's Avatar
      PWNsyst3m -
      Quote Originally Posted by agray92024 View Post
      Yes I have a iphone 3g unlocked and jailbroke on T-mobile for a year and a half and I just switched over to AT&T for the iphone 4. I would stick with t-mobile but why own a phone that doesn't use it full potential. The edge network is slow so when i'm not around wi-fi it is impossible to upload video or download any large file. So do yourself a favor drop T-mobile if your getting an iphone 4.
      Exactly what I did. But I really cant see a difference in edge speeds in my area. I swear at&t's is even slower sometimes. Im guessing thats due to congestion. Hopefully 3g will come soon, they always extend the date when it gets close to that time. Why?!?!?!
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant -
      I'm curious--since the iPhone finally added support for at least one of T-Mobile's 3G bands...does this mean maybe 3G for unlocked iPhones on T-Mobile? Finally?
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      Hint: they both involve replacing the radio.
      Is that all they involve though? (I wouldn't know, just asking).
    1. Lecram25's Avatar
      Lecram25 -
      Quote Originally Posted by n00neimp0rtant View Post
      I'm curious--since the iPhone finally added support for at least one of T-Mobile's 3G bands...does this mean maybe 3G for unlocked iPhones on T-Mobile? Finally?
      Lol what are you talking about? There is no T-Mobile 3G band support.

      If you're talking about 2100, it's been there since the iPhone 3G.

      However, both (1700 and 2100) are needed.