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  • "Brute Force" Antenna Fix To Be Revealed Tomorrow?


    A Wall Street analyst claims that his overseas sources are telling him that Apple has decided on a fix for the antenna problem plaguing the iPhone 4. Ashok Kumar, an analyst with Rodman & Renshaw Capital Group, says that what's being called an "internal bumper" is being added to new phones in order to better insulate the transceiver. According to the Kumar, suppliers in Asia have told him that the change is causing a slowdown in production, which has led the online Apple Store increase to shipping estimates to three weeks.

    Kumar told AppleInsider that the fix - which he believes will be revealed at Apple's press conference tomorrow - is "from an engineering perspective... more of a brute force than an elegant addition." Rather than doing a full recall and redesigning the circuitry completely to eliminate the problem, Kumar asserts, Apple is opting to do a "quick fix" to make its customer happy. A more elegant solution, he says, will be implemented on a CDMA version of the iPhone later this year. Kumar has been insisting for months that an iPhone model compatible with Verizon's network will be released later this year.

    Kumar's thinking is that Apple is going public with this fix now, ahead of its quarterly earnings report next Tuesday, to try and limit the financial damage of the news. Apple's stock has dropped almost 30 points from its post iPhone 4 launch high, and financial analysts have pegged the cost of a total recall at about $1.5 billion US. According to Mike Abramsky of the Royal Bank of Canada, this would mean about 40 cents a share less profit for the quarter. Analysts expect Apple to announce profit of $3.80 per share.

    Source: AppleInsider
    This article was originally published in forum thread: "Brute Force" Antenna Fix To Be Revealed Tomorrow? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 149 Comments
    1. maddawg05's Avatar
      maddawg05 -
      wonder how recall will work...it'll suck with no iPhone if they're going the swap route
    1. evolasme's Avatar
      evolasme -
      this will be interesting tomorrow to see what Apple has to say. but if there is an exchange to be done im defo asking for a new one.. this oh your phone is bad so were gonna replace it with a used one we fixed.. Ummm no...
      sadly i dont really want any other phone. so i really hope the answer they serve up is good
    1. eg6motion's Avatar
      eg6motion -
      Their previous recalls have been in the form of
      A. Send you updated product, new.
      B. Box includes return label
      C. Ship recalled item back within XYZ time frame.

      I wouldn't worry about refurbs if the recall is correct. It's too new to have refurbs. Anyone getting a replacement already will tell you that the Apple store employee likely grabbed one from a replacement-stock, which are still new iPhone's.
    1. zinjen's Avatar
      zinjen -
      Quote Originally Posted by maddawg05 View Post
      wonder how recall will work...it'll suck with no iPhone if they're going the swap route
      If there is indeed a true "Brute Force" fix for the antenna on the upcoming batch of iPhones, I would assume people who have already purchased will get to swap it when the new ones come in.

      What i'm curious about is how it will be designated. Does a new customer get a "Fixed" iPhone before someone who has already purchased a defected one previously?
    1. tekwiz's Avatar
      tekwiz -
      Kumar must of missed the FACT that AT&T has exclusivity until at least 2012 per contract which was also verified by a court case in which AT&T is being sued. Amazing how all these so called professional mouthpieces think a contract is just going to be broken without any ramifications.
    1. zinjen's Avatar
      zinjen -
      Quote Originally Posted by tekwiz View Post
      Kumar must of missed the FACT that AT&T has exclusivity until at least 2012 per contract which was also verified by a court case in which AT&T is being sued. Amazing how all these so called professional mouthpieces think a contract is just going to be broken without any ramifications.
      Very true. I was also wondering that myself, I think some people who use Verizon are a little "to caught up" in that becoming a reality. It will always be a rumor to me till I hear otherwise.
    1. tellytel's Avatar
      tellytel -
      Sounds pretty stupid there doing just a quick fix now but will do a more elegant fix for the cmda version. I just hope those of us who already have the ip4 will get the chance for the "fix"
    1. brian5s's Avatar
      brian5s -
      Good, because iOS 4.01 update doesn't fix anything. Here is proof. A little video I shot (Not the greatest quality).

      YouTube - Why you can't fix a hardware problem with software

      Brian
    1. bobright's Avatar
      bobright -
      Quote Originally Posted by tellytel View Post
      Sounds pretty stupid there doing just a quick fix now but will do a more elegant fix for the cmda version. I just hope those of us who already have the ip4 will get the chance for the "fix"

      What is a cmda version?
    1. Bernie-Mac's Avatar
      Bernie-Mac -
      Quote Originally Posted by bobright View Post
      What is a cmda version?
      A version of the iPhone capable of working on Verizon's cellular network. The iphone uses SIM cards that use GSM networks (like t-mobile) and Verizon has (sim-less i believe) phones that use a different network, called CDMA, which does not support simultaneous voice & data. It has been rumored a CDMA iPhone is coming for years but as of yet nothing has shown up and it probably wont for a while.
    1. Nips_19's Avatar
      Nips_19 -
      it will be interesting what they come up with tomorrow, but and its a big but if there is a fix either walk into a store or replacement then return this will take weeks even months with the amount of orders apple are still getting, we will then all end up getting device's running 4.0.1 which means no jailbreak.
    1. LCW's Avatar
      LCW -
      Quote Originally Posted by eg6motion View Post
      Their previous recalls have been in the form of
      A. Send you updated product, new.
      B. Box includes return label
      C. Ship recalled item back within XYZ time frame.

      I wouldn't worry about refurbs if the recall is correct. It's too new to have refurbs. Anyone getting a replacement already will tell you that the Apple store employee likely grabbed one from a replacement-stock, which are still new iPhone's.
      Let's say that's how it goes down... The sooner one would request a replacement, the higher likelihood of not getting a refurb... it's when you wait, and more and more returns get processed and *possibly* turned into refurbs, that you'd have a chance of getting a refurb... But even then, I wouldn't worry about it... Better chance of it having been thoroughly tested than a unit coming off the line, which maybe say 1-in-10 get checked for QC purposes...

      Quote Originally Posted by Bernie-Mac View Post
      A version of the iPhone capable of working on Verizon's cellular network. The iphone uses SIM cards that use GSM networks (like t-mobile) and Verizon has (sim-less i believe) phones that use a different network, called CDMA, which does not support simultaneous voice & data. It has been rumored a CDMA iPhone is coming for years but as of yet nothing has shown up and it probably wont for a while.
      I already don't like Verizon, but that's besides the point... I despise CDMA phones regardless... the lack of SIM (to easily swap between phones - let's say you don't want to take your iPhone to the beach, but have a old Razr to use - as an example), the lack of simultaneous voice & data... even just the whole stupid "provisioning" thing that CDMA phones seem to have to always do... I just find you're ad the mercy of the carrier more-so with a CDMA phone that with a GSM phone...
    1. bobright's Avatar
      bobright -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nips_19 View Post
      it will be interesting what they come up with tomorrow, but and its a big but if there is a fix either walk into a store or replacement then return this will take weeks even months with the amount of orders apple are still getting, we will then all end up getting device's running 4.0.1 which means no jailbreak.
      Who cares, I for sure don't I will take a flawless non-signal dropping phone over a current JB anyday. The jailbreak will occur eventually anyways.
    1. aimetti's Avatar
      aimetti -
      I hope for just a bumper or giftcard lol. My i4 works fine especially with a case. I'm fine with how it works already.
    1. ericidle's Avatar
      ericidle -
      For any doubters this is a brand new phone just activated and synched and a very dramatic 3G signal loss with the deathgrip and recovery with the fingertip hold, not a safe way to hold a 500 phone

      YouTube - iPhone deathgrip the worst
    1. manofcolombia's Avatar
      manofcolombia -
      omg GET OVER IT!! PUT A CASE ON UR FONE!!
      #1 itll protect ur fone from scratches
      #2 itll keep th death grip from happenin as long as it covers th gap completely (most case do)
      #3stop coomplain th iphone 4g is th best smartphone out there
    1. ericidle's Avatar
      ericidle -
      Ive never used a case on any of my iphones and always kept them in perfect condition by not putting coins or keys in the same pocket. Now why should I use a bumper to hide the look of what reputed to be the best aesthetic feature on the iphone4 with a cheap looking bumper
    1. thor740's Avatar
      thor740 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bernie-Mac View Post
      A version of the iPhone capable of working on Verizon's cellular network. The iphone uses SIM cards that use GSM networks (like t-mobile) and Verizon has (sim-less i believe) phones that use a different network, called CDMA, which does not support simultaneous voice & data. It has been rumored a CDMA iPhone is coming for years but as of yet nothing has shown up and it probably wont for a while.
      Why can't Apple build a sim card type iphone for verizon? The blackberries on verizon use sim cards
    1. eg6motion's Avatar
      eg6motion -
      Quote Originally Posted by thor740 View Post
      Why can't Apple build a sim card type iphone for verizon? The blackberries on verizon use sim cards
      they are dual band for world use. They use CDMA in the US and GSM sim-cards when traveling.
    1. nerddownthestreet's Avatar
      nerddownthestreet -
      Hmmm, you can't see the band-aide in the reflection of the phone...