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  • Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference Friday


    Apple will finally address the iPhone 4 dilemma in greater detail this Friday in a scheduled press conference. While much is not yet know about the event, it will take place in Cupertino and will focus exclusively on the iPhone 4 and the lingering reception issues related to the "Death Grip" phenomenon. First reported by the Wall Street Journal, late Wednesday Apple informed the media of the press conference which will formally commence on Friday, July 16th at 10:00 am PST.

    Apple offered no further details beyond that, but given the events of the past few weeks, it’s likely we’ll be hearing quite a bit more about the iPhone’s reported reception problems and Apple’s plans to address them.
    In recent days, Apple has endured hellish media treatment born of the company's seeming hubris in the face of growing consumer calls to do something - anything - to more formally and progressively acknowledge the antenna issues that have plagued the device since its release last month. While it isn't yet known for certain that Apple will issue a massive recall of the iPhone 4, some are assuming the the seriousness of a formal press conference is the obvious set-up for such a substantial announcement.

    But don't count on it.

    Yesterday, we reported the calculations of Bernstein Research analyst Toni Sacconaghi who placed the total cost of a full product recall to Apple at an estimated $1.5 billion, although subsequent estimates have placed that figure just beneath 1 billion.

    Wall Street Journal
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference Friday started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 147 Comments
    1. nicksti's Avatar
      nicksti -
      You can forget recall. That is not happening.

      I agree with all of the following:

      1. Announce software update to fix bar display.
      2. Announce white iPhone 4.
      3. Reassure the public of Apple's commitment to their customers.
      edit: maybe something crazy like ipod 4 or Verizon iphone?

      I do not think it would be wise to talk about return policy. It would be an admission that something is wrong and may suggest alot of people have been complaining.

      We will see. Guessing what he is going to tlak about will be more interesting than the actual announcement.
    1. bobright's Avatar
      bobright -
      Quote Originally Posted by nicksti View Post
      You can forget recall. That is not happening.

      I agree with all of the following:

      1. Announce software update to fix bar display.
      2. Announce white iPhone 4.
      3. Reassure the public of Apple's commitment to their customers.
      edit: maybe something crazy like ipod 4 or Verizon iphone?

      I do not think it would be wise to talk about return policy. It would be an admission that something is wrong and may suggest alot of people have been complaining.

      We will see. Guessing what he is going to tlak about will be more interesting than the actual announcement.
      Is it going to be Jobs speaking? Also is there anywhere we can watch it live?
    1. 24trepid's Avatar
      24trepid -
    1. rabbit_'s Avatar
      rabbit_ -
      I for one have a iPhone 4 but nit be happy with recalling my faulty phone as don't have another phone to use till I get my replacement plus paying for a iPhone tarriff 35 pm while using a nokia3330 is damn right wrong
    1. Harris.s.7's Avatar
      Harris.s.7 -
      Quote Originally Posted by piston597 View Post
      I swear if they screw us over I'm returning my iPhone 4, cuz I'll have 4 more days in the 30 day return policy then, and probably wont be buying iPhone 5 if they do screw the customers over... but if they do a recall, they'd better be giving out new iPhones to the customers and use those as refurbs cuz this is ridiculous.
      I didnt know that we could return them upto 30 days after buying, is that the same in the UK for non contract phones ?
    1. rabbit_'s Avatar
      rabbit_ -
      You can return most things in uk up to 30 days but phones am not sure of I reckon prob not due to the fact wear and tear etc but don't quote me on that apple sucks give us a recall
    1. babyblue_pimp's Avatar
      babyblue_pimp -
      Quote Originally Posted by rabbit_ View Post
      I for one have a iPhone 4 but nit be happy with recalling my faulty phone as don't have another phone to use till I get my replacement plus paying for a iPhone tarriff 35 pm while using a nokia3330 is damn right wrong
      do you understand how a recall works? max you'd go without a phone is 15 minutes, if that.
    1. rabbit_'s Avatar
      rabbit_ -
      Actually I never knew hey you learn something new every day thanks for that
    1. Evilsaint's Avatar
      Evilsaint -
      I bet apple gonna tell us that less bars mean more signal :P I really hope they get this sh** sorted out so I can buy mine I'm just waiting to see how things play out and I simply cannot digest thefact that it took three generations of the most advance Phone for apple to realise their formula is wrong.
    1. Xtremeiphone's Avatar
      Xtremeiphone -
      yea looking forward to hearing whats going to happen... Most likely NOTHING.

      Quote Originally Posted by RICO_ View Post
      (a) 4.1 is already released.

      (b) they don't need a press conference to announce a different-colored version of the exact same phone.

      (c) I hope their white iPhone 4 sales and ALL iPhone 4 sales for that matter are in the toilet if they do not address their design flaw AND fix it.

      (d) I just farted
      Well put ! LMAO !!!!!
    1. Apple.'s Avatar
      Apple. -
      If they do a recall

      I won't be returning my iPhone 4.
      And to the person that said if they do recall you will get the revised phone in 15 minutes you seriously don't know how a recall works.

      Apple would have to redesign the phone. Test it. Submit it for approval and then produce 2 million+ devices and return It to those that purchased one. You are looking at a good two months possibly more. By then a better phone will be released.

      I use my phone with a case anyway. I purchased a transparent bumper on eBay for less than $5. And it was not because the death grip. I am one of the lucky ones that do not have this issue. I use a case because this phone is not durable no matter how strong they say this glass is.

      On another note, I will not be returning my phone because I love the way it looks. Which is why I use a transparent case, also because If they redesign the phone it will not look the way it looks now.

      But ULTIMATELY, I will not be returning it because I do not want to deal with the headaches and stress of waiting in line to return it and to receive my phone. If using a case will save me from dealing with this than so be it.

      Quote Originally Posted by RICO_ View Post
      (a) 4.1 is already released.

      (b) they don't need a press conference to announce a different-colored version of the exact same phone.

      (c) I hope their white iPhone 4 sales and ALL iPhone 4 sales for that matter are in the toilet if they do not address their design flaw AND fix it.

      (d) I just farted
      (a) 4.1 was not released..do some research only the beta was released

      (b) yes they can do a press conference because they never said why it wasn't available on launch day like they promised it would be.

      (c) we all know iPhones sales will not go down the toilet, people bought iMacs 27-inch even when they knew they had problems. But it was fixed by apple eventually

      (d) complete failure to get attention. Very childish.
    1. geoffe's Avatar
      geoffe -
      If they screw us over I am ending my 3 year relationship with the iPhone and going to try the EVO.
    1. zoso10's Avatar
      zoso10 -
      This iPhone has just been a mess in general, especially all the drama leading up to it. Come out with a new iPod touch or something,
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      I am not sure why people are so sure Apple is going to do nothing... in my experience they have been very good at taking care of customers (and this is coming from a Windows fanboy). Many of you, I think, do not understand what it takes to check, double check, and triple check that this is a problem. Going out in the public and saying "We F-d up" is brutal on its own. Doing so before being absolutely sure you need to would be just stupid. They ALREADY said to bring the phone in if you aren't happy and the return stocking fees would be waived. I am sure they are now simply searching for the best way to fix the issue for the people that want to keep the phone. I am certain they are going to make this right, one way or the other. But you all should understand, some nerd doing "tests" in his basement isn't NEARLY conclusive enough evidence for a multi-billion dollar company to recall their most profitable product.

      Quote Originally Posted by zoso10 View Post
      This iPhone has just been a mess in general, especially all the drama leading up to it. Come out with a new iPod touch or something,
      Yes, I am sure that is their number one priority right now...

      Quote Originally Posted by Apple. View Post
      If they do a recall

      I won't be returning my iPhone 4.
      And to the person that said if they do recall you will get the revised phone in 15 minutes you seriously don't know how a recall works.

      Apple would have to redesign the phone. Test it. Submit it for approval and then produce 2 million+ devices and return It to those that purchased one. You are looking at a good two months possibly more. By then a better phone will be released.

      I use my phone with a case anyway. I purchased a transparent bumper on eBay for less than $5. And it was not because the death grip. I am one of the lucky ones that do not have this issue. I use a case because this phone is not durable no matter how strong they say this glass is.

      On another note, I will not be returning my phone because I love the way it looks. Which is why I use a transparent case, also because If they redesign the phone it will not look the way it looks now.

      But ULTIMATELY, I will not be returning it because I do not want to deal with the headaches and stress of waiting in line to return it and to receive my phone. If using a case will save me from dealing with this than so be it.
      I am somewhat confused by your statements. First of all, in a recall, you can take the product back virtually any time. let's say the recall drops tomorrow, for the sake of argument. You could wait a week, and return your phone then for a new one... no need to skip a recall all together under the ground that it would take time waiting in line.

      I also don;t see how you think there would be a complete redesign and therefor it would look completely different. I highly doubt it would look much different at all. Saying you like the way yours looks and don;t want a different looking one is a bit foolish... you have no idea what the "new" one would look like.

      A better phone coming out in two months? Are you talking non-Apple phone? Apple only releases their new phones yearly, so I am not sure what you are going on about. That said, even if there is a better phone on the market, is that reason not to exchange a faulty phone that you DO own?

      In short, I find nearly all of your arguments to be quite flawed my friend.
    1. Apple.'s Avatar
      Apple. -
      The phone would look different because the problem is that the antenna is the outer band of the phone and it's metal. Therefore they would have to redesign the phone completely because the Antenna is the problem. Which is the FRAME of the phone. That means the antenna would be somewhere else like the iPhone 3G and 3GS, a flex cable! And the phone being glass, reception will not go to well.

      Did I say a better iPhone will be out? No I said a BETTER phone. Before I owned the iPhone 4 I owned a 3GS after 6 months of using it, the nexus came out and I switched to that. It's much better than the iPhone 3GS. It's called innovation, and it happens a lot in the tech scene.

      THE RECALL will not only take a week! Releasing a new product is not that easy! You have to go through the process as releasing completely new device. Because technically it's a new device. And like most recalls there is a time frame you have to return the product

      Also many people sold their previous iPhones for the iPhone 4 or after they got the iPhone 4. Is apple going to give them a loaner while the new phone is being redesigned? Or refund them their money + an incentive and have them repurchase their phone when it is released? Because many will be out of a phone. That's more $$ and time to consider.

      And no I said I like the way the iPhone 4 looks as is. I don't want another phone on the market. But to consumers more options in purchasing a cell phone will be out.

      My arguments are not flawed you are reading into it too much, making assumptions, and trying to read in between the lines.

      All I'm saying all these people are screaming recall but don't see what they will have to go through.

      Or Apple could keep the iPhone the way it looks but just add the black bumper case around the phone as a permanent design. Like make it look like that out of factory state and make it unremovable.

      So you will be forced to use the damn thing. And no death grip haha! Would u still buy the phone then? Or purchase a new phone because there is a "case" over the phone
    1. Levirules's Avatar
      Levirules -
      If the answer is free bumpers, I'm not buying one.
    1. cookie181992's Avatar
      cookie181992 -
      Not that the bumpers work, but I wouldn't pay for it, they didn't spot this problem before release, so they should be free to anyone having issues
    1. Levirules's Avatar
      Levirules -
      Quote Originally Posted by geoffe View Post
      If they screw us over I am ending my 3 year relationship with the iPhone and going to try the EVO.
      Ditto. Although my GF and I are kind of in a hard-to-leave-ATT spot right now, being in a family plan and having staggered upgrade dates. And she needs a new phone BAD. So I don't know what I'll do.
    1. Apple.'s Avatar
      Apple. -
      Quote Originally Posted by Levirules View Post
      If the answer is free bumpers, I'm not buying one.
      If it's free u don't need to buy it

      Like I said in a previous post.

      What if apple recalls the phone. Redesigns the phone to have these black bumpers on as a permanent design that is unremovable. And sells the phone that way?

      Would you still buy the phone? Or not because there is now a "case" over the metal band?
    1. NArush's Avatar
      NArush -
      Software AIN'T gonna fix the reception issue. Glad I kept my 3GS cuz I'm liking it a whole lot better than this glass block. I hope Steve announces a recall, because that's the right thing to do. You make a mistake, admit it, fix it and move on. Stop coming up with lame azz bandaid, cover-up excuses. Apple is not a perfect company. I'd certainly respect that a lot more and would resume my appleholic tendencies of buying every damn thing they make.