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  • Some iPhone 4 Buyers Think Devices Are Already Being Built Differently

    Gizmodo and iFixit are giving widespread attention to new reports that allege Apple is already revamping its iPhone 4 building process to curb the lingering reception issues and so-called "Death Grip" phenomenon. Naturally, even without "sources" and "reports" corroborating this suspicion, one would only hope that Apple is doing something internally to prevent more potentially defective or flawed products from entering the marketplace.

    Those I've spoken with who have purchased iPhone 4s within the past few days and discovered a more recent production run haven't yet experienced the same nagging antenna bug that sparked the recent turmoil. While Apple hasn't formally announced a manufacturing change, the iPhone 4 population among us is so substantial (and still growing) that it is monumentally difficult to assess if the most recently produced iPhone 4s are no longer experiencing the problems of the first production runs.

    "We've received only one report," notes Gizmodo,"so take it with a hill of salt: A Gizmodo reader claims that, after Apple replaced his iPhone 4, he couldn't reproduce the sharp loss of signal. He says that the hardware seems slightly different." This report, however, coincides with the findings of an iFixit investigation. "We got an independent report of a similarly updated phone from a member of our community," notes a report on the iFixit blog, "so we decided to investigate. We exchanged one of our units (that had been experiencing unrelated problems with its Bluetooth connection) to see Apple has changed the manufacturing process since their initial production run."

    Needless to say, it will take some time to better assess whether Apple has already begun an unspoken recall of sorts by stealthily revising the manufacturing and product build of the iPhone 4.

    Stay tuned...

    This article was originally published in forum thread: Some iPhone 4 Buyers Think Devices Are Already Being Built Differently started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 95 Comments
    1. wookiee2cu's Avatar
      wookiee2cu -
      I think the media is blowing this WAY out of proportion.
      The media is not blowing it out of proportion. Keep in mind that they sold something like 600,000 iPhone 4 units on pre-order day alone. Some people have the problem and some don't. I can get mine to lose a few bars but never completely lose all of them and get the "no service" indicator. My phone does have the proximity issue (as many others have reported) and I have a replacement ordered with Apple which should be here around Thursday. The Apple genius has an iPhone 4 and his unit does not have the proximity issue, his friend has an iPhone 4 and theirs does have the proximity issue. Again, some units have issues and some don't. He said they get about 2-5 units in a day for exchange just due to the proximity issue. One thing that seemed to be left out of the Gizmodo quote was the reader also made a comment that the finish on the metal antenna band seemed different, I'm curious to see if my replacement unit has a different finish. I received my unit on 6-23.
    1. Melech518's Avatar
      Melech518 -
      Quote Originally Posted by adp View Post
      What were the reasons for replacement, signal?
      Proximity sensor issue, microphone issue, and faulty display.
    1. johnr9412's Avatar
      johnr9412 -
      The only reason my phone screws up is because I only have 1 bar of service in my house. Period. But with wifi and now a bumper case I'm fine
    1. mj0528's Avatar
      mj0528 -
      I can replicate it at certain areas. Wonder if u should chance it to get another one that may have other issues?
    1. ClerkDante's Avatar
      ClerkDante -
      Quote Originally Posted by kingbijan View Post
      Are you MAD? Media blowing this way out of proportion? There have been over half a million complaints!
      What part of your *** did you pull this number out of?
    1. ghscion's Avatar
      ghscion -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ezzard View Post
      I plan on using my old 3GS to record myself on a call with the phone placed on my face and showing how the proximity sensor screws up on every call I make or take.
      So there is a sensor error I thought it was just the way I was holding the phone I have this problem all the freaking time and the mute thing for sure happens to me frequently
    1. chris102192's Avatar
      chris102192 -
      nice... but who doesnt have reception issues with an iPhone on AT&T...
    1. Wolftamer's Avatar
      Wolftamer -
      I got my phone about 3 days ago, and I've tried my best to reproduce the death grip, and I can't.
    1. spiderguy84's Avatar
      spiderguy84 -
      Quote Originally Posted by kingbijan View Post
      Are you MAD? Media blowing this way out of proportion? There have been over half a million complaints!
      Care to share how you know there have been a half million complaints? If you're speaking of the number of posts in a blog, you should know that not every single post is a new person saying they have a problem as well.

      Blackberry users accidentally dial someone when their phone is in their back pocket and they sit down. Do they demand a full recall because it's a hardware glitch? I absolutely hate blackberry and love the iPhone 4, but I know of about 20 people who have the newest iPhone 4, and NONE of them have ANY issues whatsoever. However, every day you see about 30 new News posts, at least, on the death grip and the horrible PR issue. We saw less coverage than this on the Toyota (actual, not pretend or hypothetical) recall.
    1. CMOSlabs's Avatar
      CMOSlabs -
      Hmm, got mine on July 12th. Serial number 8002794**** so I guess that would mean week 27 build. There was a small decrease in signal strength with the death grip, but never dropped a call. People I talk to say the phone sounds better than my 3gs. Until I get my case, I put a small piece of clear scotch tape over the Antenna Gate Now no degrade in bars.
      Simple fix. I noticed with my 3gs, that if I hold it at the bottom by the connector there is also a decrease in bars.
      There was only one more problem. My BlueAnt Z9i bluetooth headset. My i4 would not see it. It saw my JawBone2 unit. Went to the BlueAnt website and downloaded a 1.1 ver firmware update. Updated, and now it works fine. I did a Google on i4 bluetooth and saw that many other people were having bluetooth connection problems. Hopefully they will fix that also in 4.01/4.1 - Long as you can bring your defective unit into a store and they either fix or replace it, whats the problem. I do that with my other electronic products under warranty. Seems like this whole ant problem is getting out of hand with the media. I know 3 other people with the i4 and they are not having any problems and just love there first iPhone (i4).
      It seems a clear protective coating over the ant band would help. So maybe the 2ed and 3rd batches that are coming out have modifications to them.
    1. Trrixx's Avatar
      Trrixx -
      I know i just registered but id like to throw in my 2 cents.
      When a new product is released you cant expect it to have no problems what so ever. Things are bound to go wrong and it will be fixed over time. granted apple is saying nothing about their problems which they should come out and admit.
      On the other hand, the signal dropping from the "grip of death" is stupid, i mean how can apple over look that? Putting an antenna right where your hand will go. And then there crazy answer of your holding it wrong.
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      I'm hoping that they are making them differently
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      I received my iPhone 4 on July 8th. I most certainly have the "Death Grip" issue. When I hold it without a case, the bars completely drop off, slide it in a case full service. I don't think this will ever be fixed. =\
    1. NiteStar's Avatar
      NiteStar -
      I have the proximity issue on my first phone ip4 and had it replaced. Well this one has the sane issue. Not to many different ways I can hold my phone to my ear. Lol.

      I'm hoping it's a software bug and if not, this one goes back too.
    1. LGgeek's Avatar
      LGgeek -
      I think that apple knew about the problem from the beginning,look at how fast the "bumper" showed up in the apple store.
    1. unreach's Avatar
      unreach -
      When will people open their closed minds to the fact that just because "you" don't have a problem doesn't mean a bunch of other people don't. Stop talking for yourself and let's try to get a fix for the whole community.
    1. Trrixx's Avatar
      Trrixx -
      Quote Originally Posted by LGgeek View Post
      I think that apple knew about the problem from the beginning,look at how fast the "bumper" showed up in the apple store.
      i agree 100% with that one. To them it was probably "easy money" to release that.
    1. adp's Avatar
      adp -
      The reason why some of you experience it and some don't is because it depends on your signal strength. If you are in an area with weak reception, you will experience the problem. I can replicate the problem any day at home, but not at work where I constantly have 5 bars
    1. wolverinemarky's Avatar
      wolverinemarky -
      will be interesting to see if the white iphone will have any of these problems or if they have been revamping them thats why they werent released
    1. barryson77's Avatar
      barryson77 -
      Quote Originally Posted by spiderguy84 View Post
      I got my iPhone the 23rd, pre-ordered opening pre-order day, and I've never had any problems with signal strength when i hold it a certain way. I think the media is blowing this WAY out of proportion.
      true what u said,i think they just wanna see Apple fall,but thats not gonna happen,they making gud products