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  • Verizon iPhone Sales Estimates Through The Roof



    Within the last twenty-four hours, the prospect of a Verizon iPhone has markedly shifted from the "solid rumor" column into the "tentatively factual" category. As a result, analysts are weighing in on the juggernaut sales potential of the Apple smartphone if yesterday's Bloomberg report about the suspected end of AT&T's exclusivity actually manifests at the start of 2011.

    On Wednesday morning, Yair Reiner of Oppenheimer said that Apple could possibly sell an additional 12 million iPhones yearly if Verizon begins to offer coverage in January when, as it now stands, Verizon is most likely to announce a deal with Apple at the Consumer Electronics Show. But as we've seen everywhere from the Bloomberg report to subsequent reader comments on MMi, not everyone is convinced that a Verizon iPhone is a done deal. Not even Reiner, who was careful to point to longstanding rumors and warned against "popping the champagne too early."

    Nonetheless, the sales implications for Apple would be nearly unfathomable if a Verizon deal ultimately pans out. With estimates "through the roof," Apple would generate some $7 billion in incremental revenue from the projected 12 million additional iPhone sales on an annual basis - a projection that some analysts say might actually be "on the low side."

    Presently carried in the US only by AT&T, Apple still managed to sell roughly 11 million iPhones during the past twelve months. Having the opportunity to sell the iPhone to Verizon's sizable base of 83 million subscribers all but certainly looks more appetizing to the powers that be in Cupertino than possibly any other growth strategy imaginable.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Verizon iPhone Sales Estimates Through The Roof started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 76 Comments
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      Keep up the Verizon iPhone news, Messany... if there's one thing I love to see it's crazy Apple fans squirm in their panties at the thought that they will be second-class iPhone owners due to its availability on a superior network.

      Ha!
    1. BlackHoleSlam1994's Avatar
      BlackHoleSlam1994 -
      T mobile coverage is so bad steve jobs would probably shoot himself if the iphone went to t mobile because of the coverage is like living under the earth
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      How many more threads do we need on this ridiculous rumour?
    1. Carrbone's Avatar
      Carrbone -
      here's why you'll never see an Iphone on Verizon-
      For the same reason Apple and Microsoft don't like each other...
      smear campaigns ...
      Droid X NY Times Ad Sneaks In iPhone 4 Jab



      You think steve would let his iphone on a network that bashes his phone?
      Your all as dumb as the pencil pushing wannabe geeks at bloomberg if u think so.
    1. MFDOOM44's Avatar
      MFDOOM44 -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      How many more threads do we need on this ridiculous rumour?
      haha, said it all too well
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      If Verizon gets the iPhone it'll effectively effectively kill Android. Verizon is their biggest supporter and AT&T has only now started introducing any Android devices (which are modest, and minor compared to Verizon's) with no surprise as to why.

      If you want a smartphone, you're not gonna get a second-rate handset. And while I think Android is a nice OS, its certainly several notches below the iPhone/AppStore.

      Quote me on this. Verizon iPhone is the end of Android. It'll make Android the new webOS (Palm's OS); a really great OS, but one that just got outmuscled.
    1. ghscion's Avatar
      ghscion -
      verizon does have the best service as far as signal but verizon does not have the best customer service like the worst so they can kiss my butt i would never go back to them i had to leave them when they screwed me the last time and i have never been happier with atts customer service i can deal with the kinda decent reception for that
    1. dogdaysunrise's Avatar
      dogdaysunrise -
      Quote Originally Posted by Carrbone View Post
      LOL I love how people who have no factual proof speculate this nonsense.

      if anything T-mobile will get it noT Verizon...
      why?
      Simple.
      1. T-mobile already does business with APPLE/iphones overseas.
      2. No need for another phone to be developed specifically for CDMA.
      the current one will work fine on T-mobile.

      Apple would be kinda retarded to bring Verizon into the mix.
      So your saying then a Verizon Ipad too.
      Lol u Verizon FanBoys are worse then apple and droid combined.

      Not to mention signing with T-mobile will probably bump Sprint down a notch and bring T-mobile into the Top 3 Carriers here in the US.

      AppleInsider | T-Mobile, not Verizon, most likely to see iPhone first, report claims
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Wow they are a lot of loyal AT&T fans here!
    1. Imsorussian's Avatar
      Imsorussian -
      I cant wait till verizon gets the iphone, i hate verizon with a passion and when they finaly get the iphone and the users will jam the outdated, last century cdma network, ill be the one telling all u verizon switchers a big F U. And by verizon getting iphone will free up alot of att network and when att customers be flying on 3g network verizon will be barely coughing. Att thought they were ready for iphone/ipad and they werent and now verizon think they ready. Haha suckers, i pray everyday for verizon to burn. Garbage company with high prices and sh$&@ cust service. P.S. Infact all u verizon lovers ill give a big. F U now
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      How many more threads do we need on this ridiculous rumour?
      NEED? 0
      How many we will get? I'd say a couple dozen.

      Quote Originally Posted by ghscion View Post
      verizon does have the best service as far as signal but verizon does not have the best customer service like the worst so they can kiss my butt i would never go back to them i had to leave them when they screwed me the last time and i have never been happier with atts customer service i can deal with the kinda decent reception for that
      This is largely my situation as well. The only customer service better than ATT's that I have found is TMO. Too bad I get spotty as hell reception in my house with TMO
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Carrbone View Post
      here's why you'll never see an Iphone on Verizon-
      For the same reason Apple and Microsoft don't like each other...
      smear campaigns ...
      Droid X NY Times Ad Sneaks In iPhone 4 Jab



      You think steve would let his iphone on a network that bashes his phone?
      Your all as dumb as the pencil pushing wannabe geeks at bloomberg if u think so.

      #1. That is Motorola ad.
      #2. It is just stating the obvious, iPhone is a phone 1st after all it took 5 letters of its name and the i is only 1 letter. It should work normally as a phone instead of dazzling people with all the i and hope people do not notice reception issue. I hope Motorola make more ads and Google make more ads about iPhone's reception problem. Jab more!!!
      Money makes all grudges go away, it is even more true in business. I take Bloombergs opinion over yours.

      BTW this is a frustrated iPhone 4 owner with reception issue talking, not a Verizon supporter. But I am thinking about switching over since everyone I know have Verizon and they can not say enough about their service, while I get drop calls and static calls all the time...
    1. ATTILA THE HUN's Avatar
      ATTILA THE HUN -
      YES at last promise to be the 1st to move from at&t with all my family account one iphone plus 4 blackberryis
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      As I stated in the other Verizon thread about people saying why post this. Look at other tech sites they post it too. So as an Apple tech site then why should we skip over certain articles?


      He is not like "OMG!!!!!!! Verizon FTW" He is just reporting what other tech sites are reporting.

      So please keep this to a verizon discussion and not bashing the MMi staff.
    1. ecd5000's Avatar
      ecd5000 -
      why does everyone make such a big deal of this? if it would go to another carrier then that will be less traffic on att. the only thing i would like to see is how apple will handle themselves when they have to produce double the phones for launch day when they cant even keep the supply going now.
    1. PotatoHead's Avatar
      PotatoHead -
      Ok, everyone stop and take a deep breath. I wish I could quote everyone here, but there's not enough space here. A few people have made a good point for each side. One person almost hit it on the head, only they got it backwards.

      The first carrier Apple approached to carry the iPhone was Verizon. Verizon was more than happy to provide their network for the iPhone. The only problem was that Apple wanted Verizon to use internal testing, meaning that Verizon's R&D would be testing the phone. Only problem here is Verizon does not do internal R&D in the field, they outsource all of their field testing. The "can you here me know?" guy doesn't work for Verizon. Because of this fact Apple approached Cingular (now AT&T). Cingular did, and still does, all of their field testing internally. Each phone AT&T places on their shelves goes through at least 400 hours of internal field testing. This is why AT&T now carries the iPhone, with a five year exclusive. Being that iPhone 4 just launched that means AT&T has one more year left in their contract. So, if it was ever possible for Verizon to get the iPhone it wouldn't be until June/July of 2012.

      Apple has had enough problems with internal field tester, especially after this year. I don't think they would ever allow their prototype equipment be tested by contractors that don't care. This in on top of the whole network thing, being CDMA and all. But, theres already been enough talk about that.

      My final point, and I apologize for being so long winded. AT&T, like any wireless phone provider, wants you on a contract. They are guaranteed revenue that way. Being that iPhone customers are higher revenue customers their LTV (lifetime value) is meet about four months into their contract. That means eight months of gravy until a new iPhone. Then, yes, they will let you upgrade into the never ending cycle of iPhone year after year after year. Like many user I have carried every iPhone, and probably will continue to because it truly is a superior product.

      Once again I apologize for being long winded, but after four pages of posts I wanted to hit these points, and if your still reading, Thank You!
    1. Retell's Avatar
      Retell -
      Quick summery of my favorite points made by people on the last few pages:

      1. Apple won't build a CDMA iPhone just for release on Verizon's network, China also runs on the inferior CDMA network, China is a market so large it makes Verizon look like pocket change.

      2. While it is true that Verizon's (4G, LTE) network will be GSM based, Verizon has stated it will not be able to suspend its CDMA operations until at least 2010. Which means if a GSM iPhone will be on a Verizon network, it will only work in major cities (which will still take until at least 2012 to just get operating) and means that unlike ATT's network where you only get Edge in the middle of noware, you won't even be able to place a call.

      3. For the first time ever it has been proven that service issues can be blamed on the iDevice which makes Apple look bad for putting out an unpolished product, they wouldn't risk exposing their customers to a different type of network they aren't equipped to handle, be it CDMA or LTE.

      4. A CDMA phone and GSM phone being manufactured at the same, strangles supply 100x harder than having a black phone and a white phone. We have enough manufacturing issues as it is.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by cerote View Post

      So please keep this to a verizon discussion and not bashing the MMi staff.
      Not bashing MMi Staff, but why not just link to the previous threads? Just about every post in this thread has been posted many times before in many other threads, this is not news, it's rumour and the argument has been done to death.

      Is there one single post in this thread that has not been said in one of the many other 'Verizon may get the iPhone' threads?

      Every few days, it seems, this rumour gets repeated and we get another thread which is almost identical to the last one.

      Next time it happens can't you just copy/paste all the replies from this thread to save everyone typing?
    1. thetoothfairy's Avatar
      thetoothfairy -
      Maybe someday people these so called rumors just might be reality! I love the Verizon is going to get the iPhone posts! I love reading all of the frustrating comments from people.
    1. Comedy's Avatar
      Comedy -
      Aren't you meant to be writing news, not hearsay?

      In my book "solid rumor" and "tentatively factual" are the same column.