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  • Steve Jobs Gets Congressional Inquiry on Apple's Privacy Policy



    Apple's recently revised privacy policy has raised some eyebrows, particularly the section about how the company - along with its partners and licensees - "may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device." Now, these newly carved terms of service regarding Apple's location-based features have attracted the attention of US lawmakers.

    Congress - and, in particular, the co-chairmen of the House Bi-Partisan Privacy Caucus - wants an explanation from Apple. From MMi's threads to newspaper headlines, Congress has taken notice of the rampant concern that Apple is collecting (possibly with the intention of sharing) important user data like the geographic location of iPhone and iPad use. On Tuesday, Paul covered the update and noted that while Google has been skillful about collecting user data since the arrival of Android, Apple and its flurry of patents for location-based ad services suggests that Cupertino is actively ramping up the intensity with which private data could be exploited.

    Although Steve Jobs has been known to respond to email on occasion, he is yet to respond to mine regarding this matter. It might, however, be in his best interest to respond to the letter he received Thursday from Reps. Edward J. Markey and Joe Barton, who stated: "Given the limited ability of Apple users to opt out of the revised policy and still be able to take advantage of the features of their Apple products, we are concerned about the impact the collection of such data could have on the privacy of Apple's customers."

    To read the letter in its entirety, click here.

    For now, Apple says users should have no privacy concerns because data is collected anonymously. But no shortage of analysts suggest that the data Apple is collecting could, in fact, be used to identify people "based on behavior patterns."
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Steve Jobs Gets Congressional Inquiry on Apple's Privacy Policy started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 37 Comments
    1. knguyen's Avatar
      knguyen -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Really? were? as is past tense Apple?

      How about "we're Apple" - we are Apple.
      Pull ova, is tha grammer police.
    1. HarlemState's Avatar
      HarlemState -
      Quote Originally Posted by Vandale View Post
      you made my day.
      lolMe2
    1. sekazi's Avatar
      sekazi -
      Quote Originally Posted by knguyen View Post
      I agree that that is a bit extreme but there are truths to it. Imagine in the near future, knowing your location is of the norm, and knowing what you look like is the next big thing. When you take a picture on your iPhone, Apple will be able to share your photos with advertisers. If your hair is getting too long, here's the nearest barber. Your teeth are a bit crooked and yellow, here's the nearest dentist. Ugly much? Here's the nearest plastic surgeon.

      @ tudtran they do it so they can sell you stuff. Your location is actually a very valuable for advertisers, and you may already know that Apple is getting into the advertising business with iAds.
      I think the best example of this is the movie Minority Report. Imagine getting convicted of a crime you have not even committed yet and there is no 100% guarantee you will do it. This is getting closer and closer with cameras on streets. They are taking computers and gathering behaviors of everyone and to the extreme taking pictures for facial recognition to determine how likely you will commit a crime and dispatch police if you are acting suspicious all based on what the computer thinks.

      Also in the movie while walking though the mall it takes you picture then give you personal ads based on you. This was recently tried in I believe the UK. While driving down the road a camera would take a picture of your tag and then up the road it would provide a advertisement based on information they found on that tag.
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Apple is about to get a big awakeing!

      Job's will be lucky if he is selling Iphones at Apple store unless he becomes Bubba's room mate!

      I just want to see the clip when he gets smart and yells then is escorted off by hopefully a woman in uniform!

      I took a while and Bill Gates cost Microsoft billions because of his ego and lost!
    1. KartRacer's Avatar
      KartRacer -
      As long as they use it to improve their network I'm all about it. They sure could use the help fixing their piss poor network.
    1. waheedtarin's Avatar
      waheedtarin -
      Nothing big there going to use your info for companys to know where u are so you get ads when ur around for there new i ad things let's say mcdonalds u get ads from them
    1. JaydeTech's Avatar
      JaydeTech -
      Apple can't really do anything to fix the network.....since, you know, that's AT&T's problem.... and if you needed to know where you were, Cell Phone companies already can track your location...those cute little "Family Monitoring" upgrades (of course costing about $10/month) for your account.

      I'm not paranoid, but I also don't give a damn about location based ads. Advertisers in general need a huge jump since their losing tons of money to the internet, so location-based and mobile is the next thing to focus on.

      It's when iAds starts flashing an Ad on my phone that I can't exit out of because Apple has a patent on that to..and that Ad is telling me I prefer to purchase this type of cereal based on the information they collected from using my phone as a credit card...you can see where this would go

      Actually that would be cool if Apple kept track of my groceries for me
    1. Hmar9333's Avatar
      Hmar9333 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Really? were? as is past tense Apple?

      How about "we're Apple" - we are Apple.
      How about you stop obnoxiously posting in bold orange letters?

      Maybe then I'll listen to you.
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hmar9333 View Post
      How about you stop obnoxiously posting in bold orange letters?

      Maybe then I'll listen to you.
      How about quit complaining about color text?

      Apple knows where I live? *hides in the closet and gets his gun ready*
    1. Captinsmooth's Avatar
      Captinsmooth -
      I wonder when apple collects this data if it consumes data usage on your plan? If it does, how much data is used each time they collect?
    1. MagicJustin's Avatar
      MagicJustin -
      I wonder when apple collects this data if it consumes data usage on your plan? If it does, how much data is used each time they collect?
      That's definitely something I wonder. If I'm paying for 2GB, I don't want any extra stuff beyond what I'm already looking at. I totally agree.
    1. Hmar9333's Avatar
      Hmar9333 -
      Quote Originally Posted by awesomeiPod View Post
      How about quit complaining about color text?

      Apple knows where I live? *hides in the closet and gets his gun ready*
      How about quit complaining about me complaining about colour text?

      No? I thought not.
    1. Raptors's Avatar
      Raptors -
      Lol you guys are too funny, stay on topic of the thread
    1. Wilbourn's Avatar
      Wilbourn -
      @hmar9333....quote "How about you stop obnoxiously posting in bold orange letters?
      Maybe then I'll listen to you."

      I wouldn't p*ss off the veterans of MMi... Especially*since you're new to forum and only 3 post's in....respect your elders my man...Plus, the colored text options are availiable for a reason, so you can use them... And he was correct, it's "we're" which I'm not sure if you know this but it means "we are" not were...even on internet forums proper English is called for if you expect people to give a d*nm about what you have to say or think... Just saying... Welcome to MMi!

      ^^***Especially*since you're new to forum and only 3 post's in... correction, I meant posts not post's since the added " 's " displays possession and not the plural version of the word... Also, the " * " was a typo and since I'm on my Jesus Phone 4, you can't edit your posts as you would be able to on a computer... Have a great day MMi.
    1. robertr1's Avatar
      robertr1 -
      Good I'm kind of getting tired of apple taking the "my way or the highway" approach to their business.
    1. Hmar9333's Avatar
      Hmar9333 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Wilbourn View Post
      @hmar9333....quote "How about you stop obnoxiously posting in bold orange letters?
      Maybe then I'll listen to you."

      I wouldn't p*ss off the veterans of MMi... Especially*since you're new to forum and only 3 post's in....respect your elders my man...Plus, the colored text options are availiable for a reason, so you can use them... And he was correct, it's "we're" which I'm not sure if you know this but it means "we are" not were...even on internet forums proper English is called for if you expect people to give a d*nm about what you have to say or think... Just saying... Welcome to MMi!

      ^^***Especially*since you're new to forum and only 3 post's in... correction, I meant posts not post's since the added " 's " displays possession and not the plural version of the word... Also, the " * " was a typo and since I'm on my Jesus Phone 4, you can't edit your posts as you would be able to on a computer... Have a great day MMi.
      I know he was correct, I am quite the grammar Nazi myself, even when I'm texting I use proper grammar.

      It's just that one of my pet peeves of the Internet is people that post in random, unnecessary colours. It's like having a conversation with someone that keeps shouting at you even though they are standing right next to you, as though they just really want attention.

      And I know that I only have 3 (4 now) posts, but I do forget sometimes, you see, I am a member of TouchArcade and I have >2000 posts there and it just feels like it's all the same website.

      I also often have trouble conveving sarcastic tones over the Internet because, well.... It's the Internet.
    1. BogeyJH's Avatar
      BogeyJH -
      iAds may sound good to devs, but as a purely consumer level user, I'm very unexcited. iAds are likely to be an annoyance at the least and a PITA at the worst, resulting in less satisfied users of the devices.

      The location information gathering is a bit unsettling. I don't think anyone needs to gather info about my whereabouts. I'm a pretty unlikely suspect for any crimes, and certainly not the type easily influenced by ads. Why should I give up any more privacy for someone else to make a buck or worse, pass on my location to the authorities on suspicion of some future crime that is considered a right up to now (sedition, offensive language, leaving my porch light on all night, excessive toilet flushing...)?
      ...a knock at the door...
      Sir, please come with me to the station.
      Your credit card purchases, internet forum posts, and movement about the city leads us to believe you are making unlicensed modifications to your _____ (home, car, iPhone, chain saw, kids...).
      I would like to see Congress (or better yet consumers) put pressure on Steve to allow iOS users to opt out of iAds or at least make accidental touches on the ad less likely (press and hold to follow?). I don't care to have any unsolicited ads, so if iAds are too invasive or obnoxious, I may opt out of apps that use them. If they are easy to ignore, that may be a different story.

      For now I guess I will have to get by with iOS 4 Settings>General>Location Services set to OFF.