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  • Leak or Lie? Apple Steals Your Info While AT&T Locks You In


    A "leak" has been reported on Addictive Tips from an Apple employee code named "Alpha." While we caution anyone to accept the validity of the information until credible sources chime in and more information becomes known, there is growing chatter tonight across the blogosphere about this still dubious "news" item.

    "Alpha" supposedly works in the iPhone Development Department and has been privy to what amounts to a "shocking" revelation that reveals the extent to which both Apple and AT&T will allegedly go to "lock their users and steal their information while they have no clue about it." In the article, Alpha dishes at length about what Apple and AT&T are doing specifically to implement what, if true, amounts to a sneaky consumer retainer scheme. According to the information presented, With iOS 4, AT&T locks all US iPhone owners to their network via regular OTA updates.

    According to “Alpha”, in iOS 4 there is a line of code which they wrote that sends OTA (Over The Air) updates to the user every 7-14 days which detects and locks the system if it is not using AT&T network. Also AT&T and Apple have 6 months worth of OTA updates in their server which “Alpha” himself checked.
    Additionally, it seems the reason some iPhones were shipped early was to "verify their OTA update system." Also noted is that Apple is stealing user information via FaceTime where there is no encryption. Lastly, Alpha says many Apple employees are on to the scheme and, as a result, they are not updating to iOS 4. Alpha indicated that he even downgraded his OS back to version 3.1.2.

    What may especially be pertinent information to readers on MMi is that when iPhone 4 users call Apple Care Support, "all information is displayed, including the jailbreak and baseband version." Consequently, guess what happens when you request support? Apple staff have been directed to refuse helping those who have broken the contract rules

    “I will tell you this right now the things I am saying if you where to go to Jobs himself he would deny.”
    Again, we wish to stress that the veracity of this information is unlikely at best. While the aspect of AT&T possibly locking the phones could be legitimate, our research finds that the downgrade process referenced by "Alpha" in the piece appears bogus. Not withstanding, if "Alpha" truly is an Apple employee, he may have the ability to downgrade.

    We'll stay with the story should there be any definitive confirmations or dismissals as to its legitimacy.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Leak or Lie? Apple Steals Your Info While AT&T Locks You In started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 89 Comments
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      ^ Only if you believe such utter tripe.
    1. stroodle's Avatar
      stroodle -
      I had this message pop up on my iphone yesterday....I am in the UK on the O2 network, just after I updated my iphone to 4.0 and Jailbroke. I clicked update. Can anybody tell me if I am going to face any problems now, or in danger of being hacked etc? I am a little confused as to what this means, I thought it was only on the AT&T network.

      Cheers

      Danny
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by GmAz View Post
      And just another reason my plans to buy one of the new Droid-X phones and switching to Verizon is making more sense every day.
      If it were true maybe.. MMi, please take this down.
    1. NiCkStOuCh's Avatar
      NiCkStOuCh -
      my only thought is if any part is true or not, i'm curious as to why so many people got their iphone 4 early, we all know apple is strict about release date and info, that is the part that gets me. I work at BBY and a co-worker got his early (ordered online apple) and a customer came into today with one, got my hands on it! amazing! There has been no word from apple or At&t about why people got the iphone early. On a side note, i'm glad im off tomorrow, my g/f reordered mine from BBY so I could get it tomorrow, My BBY only received 40 today, 30 16GB B and 10 32GB B, i was ...i mean she was number 2 on the list for a 32GB B!!!!!!! i'll be posting a lot tomorrow!
    1. sketchead's Avatar
      sketchead -
      Well I'm on O2-UK and I was asked to update (which I denied) but O2 allow (and offer a free service) for users to unlock their iPhones. So I say this isn't true.
    1. Ticko's Avatar
      Ticko -
      what i dont get is how att and apple can send an ota update to a phone they dont know imei or serial to a person on another service provider. Apple nor att know my imei nor am i on the att network so they would have to have tmobile permission and help to send me an ota update...sounds like this guy doesnt know much of what he is talking about. Plus it would have to be connected to some form of internet to receive on ota update or the user has to tell it where to send it or accept..very silly and sounds bogus
    1. brokentwice's Avatar
      brokentwice -
      to believe this would be like believing that the hover board from back to the future is Real.
    1. b3nelson's Avatar
      b3nelson -
      Its ture all of it! I called into Apple with my jailbroke+unlocked on T-Mobile iphone and got put on a black hold, called in on a AT&T non-jailbroke iPhone and my call went through
    1. ajo610's Avatar
      ajo610 -
      I received the same message in the US on T-mobile
    1. philo's Avatar
      philo -
      To those who believe this crap I have a bridge in Brooklyn. I'll sell it to you real cheap. Anyone with half a brain knows that AT&T or any carrier would have ability to send updates to a phone on their network. It's moronic to think however that this Alpha guy is anything more than some idiot feeding us all a line of bs. Based on what I read this project has been going on this long and so many insiders are upset yet no one has heard about it until the launch of iPhone 4? Why is Modmyi even putting this stuff on the site. Next thing we know Modmyi will be paying finder's fees for prototypes like Gizmodo did.
    1. mvhurlburt's Avatar
      mvhurlburt -
      This is very possible via a phone home feature in iOS, the AT&T phones may have a phone home feature that requires a periodic OTA carrier settings update and all iPhones may have a phone home to apple that reports FW version, BB and whether or not the device is JB....that being said once someone figures out where(if) this is happening it ought to be preventable quite easily....they may have accounted for a host hack and if the phone requires a periodic update we'll have to spoof both the FW/BB/JB and carrier info to fool the servers....chances are this is all a load of bs but it could be true....that being said I would not be very happy with it. I get apple likes to control all aspects of the user experience but keep it within reason!!! If they did this to OS X I don't know what I would do....Linux maybe. I feel like it's allready reached ridiculousness with a strictly closed deving platform, FW signing and the plethora of other crap that they impose on their users. In fairness the majority of their users don't notice/care and are very happy about the experience(hence Apples quarterly earnings). IDK I really hope this is false but if not hopefully there is a fix ASAP as I assume if you JB even once you will void your warranty and leave you SOL
    1. avenger's Avatar
      avenger -
      hahahahaha its a phone thats all what possible data would apple or at&t would want with your phone not like you guys are important to.

      talk about paranoia....
    1. brandoncarr's Avatar
      brandoncarr -
      How can AT&T send an OTA update if you don't have an AT&T SIM card in your phone? If you're on, say T-Mo's network, how can they do such a thing?
    1. Ticko's Avatar
      Ticko -
      Quote Originally Posted by b3nelson View Post
      Its ture all of it! I called into Apple with my jailbroke+unlocked on T-Mobile iphone and got put on a black hold, called in on a AT&T non-jailbroke iPhone and my call went through
      dude i have been calling from my iphone 3g jailbroken/unlocked t-mobile all week and i have had the most supreme help from one of the nicest supervisors at apple just 5 minutes ago...and none of that information suede her from getting a supervisor from att on the line and hashing out my order issue. Got it all taken care of too so thats a lie
      Quote Originally Posted by brandoncarr View Post
      How can AT&T send an OTA update if you don't have an AT&T SIM card in your phone? If you're on, say T-Mo's network, how can they do such a thing?

      exactly the only way they can do that is if they have the support from tmobile to send the ota request...and tmobile loves their iphone customers so i doubt that would happen.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      I hope so badly that this is true. Can you say multi-BILLION dollar lawsuit?
    1. piston597's Avatar
      piston597 -
      Simple, when jailbreakable someone just jailbreak and unlock theirs, go on a tmobile sim, and call apple saying your phone is messed up and need service, if they let you then this is bs, if they say no your jailbroken and broke your contract then we can all cry.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by avenger View Post
      hahahahaha its a phone thats all what possible data would apple or at&t would want with your phone not like you guys are important to.

      talk about paranoia....
      Clearly you don't know just how much money your information is worth to people. Their are million dollar companies that focus solely on buying and selling information... It's not about any single person's information, it's about the MASSES.
    1. flintoff's Avatar
      flintoff -
      why would u wanna call from ur iphone to apple store?? just call them from regular home phone how simple is that

      Note to Apple - just shut up and allow jailbreaking or else we will put u in jail lolzzz
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by sketchead View Post
      Well I'm on O2-UK and I was asked to update (which I denied) but O2 allow (and offer a free service) for users to unlock their iPhones. So I say this isn't true.
      This article is regarding ATT. Not that I believe this is 100% true, but how does your situation give or take credibility with this one. iPhone contracts OUTSIDE the USA are a COMPLETELY different ball game.

      Quote Originally Posted by flintoff View Post
      why would u wanna call from ur iphone to apple store?? just call them from regular home phone how simple is that

      Note to Apple - just shut up and allow jailbreaking or else we will put u in jail lolzzz
      You are still going to have to give them info. about your specific unit. If this "phone home" feature is true, the rep. will have all the info. he/she needs regardless of what phone you call from...
    1. Ticko's Avatar
      Ticko -
      yes they will have your info and that sounds like it is probably legit.....but some people dont have home phones im a college student and my jailbroken unlocked iphone is my only form of communication. thats why some people call from their iphone plus it would be a lot easier to give them all your info (order number last 4 of social, phone number, address) instead of having to confirm that everytime you call them