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  • Leak or Lie? Apple Steals Your Info While AT&T Locks You In


    A "leak" has been reported on Addictive Tips from an Apple employee code named "Alpha." While we caution anyone to accept the validity of the information until credible sources chime in and more information becomes known, there is growing chatter tonight across the blogosphere about this still dubious "news" item.

    "Alpha" supposedly works in the iPhone Development Department and has been privy to what amounts to a "shocking" revelation that reveals the extent to which both Apple and AT&T will allegedly go to "lock their users and steal their information while they have no clue about it." In the article, Alpha dishes at length about what Apple and AT&T are doing specifically to implement what, if true, amounts to a sneaky consumer retainer scheme. According to the information presented, With iOS 4, AT&T locks all US iPhone owners to their network via regular OTA updates.

    According to “Alpha”, in iOS 4 there is a line of code which they wrote that sends OTA (Over The Air) updates to the user every 7-14 days which detects and locks the system if it is not using AT&T network. Also AT&T and Apple have 6 months worth of OTA updates in their server which “Alpha” himself checked.
    Additionally, it seems the reason some iPhones were shipped early was to "verify their OTA update system." Also noted is that Apple is stealing user information via FaceTime where there is no encryption. Lastly, Alpha says many Apple employees are on to the scheme and, as a result, they are not updating to iOS 4. Alpha indicated that he even downgraded his OS back to version 3.1.2.

    What may especially be pertinent information to readers on MMi is that when iPhone 4 users call Apple Care Support, "all information is displayed, including the jailbreak and baseband version." Consequently, guess what happens when you request support? Apple staff have been directed to refuse helping those who have broken the contract rules

    “I will tell you this right now the things I am saying if you where to go to Jobs himself he would deny.”
    Again, we wish to stress that the veracity of this information is unlikely at best. While the aspect of AT&T possibly locking the phones could be legitimate, our research finds that the downgrade process referenced by "Alpha" in the piece appears bogus. Not withstanding, if "Alpha" truly is an Apple employee, he may have the ability to downgrade.

    We'll stay with the story should there be any definitive confirmations or dismissals as to its legitimacy.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Leak or Lie? Apple Steals Your Info While AT&T Locks You In started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 89 Comments
    1. RyanWS's Avatar
      RyanWS -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryfly View Post
      We will find out soon enough.

      Whoever gets a iPhone 4, jailbreak it, unlock it then call apple! Then we will know if it is true or not.
      Exactly, and then restore your phone. And if they deny your service, ask why.
      It'd be funny if they said, "Oh, we were taking information from your phone automatically."
    1. Simtech's Avatar
      Simtech -
      Quote Originally Posted by reanimationxp View Post
      hosts file anyone? snore..
      He said OTA doof...
    1. sstickley's Avatar
      sstickley -
      Hmmm..!! I got an OTA update from o2 UK today the minute I upgraded my 3g to legit 4.. I think I'll hold back on the 3GS for now and watch this space some more.
    1. tribe51's Avatar
      tribe51 -
      Will any Detroit Redwings fan out there let me borrow your tinfoil hat please?
    1. Apple.'s Avatar
      Apple. -
      this does not make sense at all
      How can ATT push OTA updates to someone that is already using another network?
      However it could work if the Phone itself checks the network or tries to connect with apple and it cannot and then locks itself out?

      IF this is true, i am going to be selling my iphone 4 and going for the HTC Evo and then moving to the Droid X when it releases. This is too much BS for a cell phone that I HAVE bought with MY hard earned money to be controlled by the company WHO makes them.

      I should be able to do anything with the device since i own it. Even if the dev team and GeoHot find a way around it how long will that last? I dont want to deal with iPhones anymore. Apple is trying to control every bits and pieces of the iCommunity and yet they hate Adobe Flash because it is a 'closed' environment. They are the company with the 'closed' environment. The FCC should look into this and really put an end to the Tyrant Company's dirty schemes and scandals.

      If anyone wants to buy 2 Black iPhone 4's 32Gb $850 each PM ME we will do this on ebay
    1. itaintrite's Avatar
      itaintrite -
      MuscleNerd: "Common sense (and simple code inspection) shows that "leak" by "Alpha" about iPhone4 OTA re-locking to be silly FUD."
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Yea.. go ahead and take this off the front page.

      Quote Originally Posted by MuscleNerd View Post
      Common sense (and simple code inspection) shows that "leak" by "Alpha" about iPhone4 OTA re-locking to be silly FUD.
    1. Shockster's Avatar
      Shockster -
      Weird...im 99% sure this is bogus, but weirder things have happened
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Simtech View Post
      He said OTA doof...
      Says someone who fails to realize that a cellular network is.. a network. Anything that phones home (pun intended) can always be blocked.
    1. Simtech's Avatar
      Simtech -
      Quote Originally Posted by reanimationxp View Post
      Says someone who fails to realize that a cellular network is.. a network. Anything that phones home (pun intended) can always be blocked.
      Which has nothing to do with your hosts file...
    1. mkvelidadon's Avatar
      mkvelidadon -
      Simply ignore the update. Use your brain. BTW, jailbreaking is illegal.
    1. Apple.'s Avatar
      Apple. -
      Quote Originally Posted by Simtech View Post
      Which has nothing to do with your hosts file...
      lol actually it has everything to do with your hosts file

      when the iphone will try and communicate back you can restrict it using the hosts file

      if you did not know there is a hosts file that exists on the iphone as well
    1. wakka102's Avatar
      wakka102 -
      this doesnt seem like something that couldnt be blocked easy with a tweak in cydia if it was true. Hurray for Jailbreaking.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      This story is the biggest load of rubbish I have heard in a long time.
      Not true. Not even worth reading.
    1. twiggystar's Avatar
      twiggystar -
      Well yoy did. Otherwise how would you know.
    1. RyanWS's Avatar
      RyanWS -
      Quote Originally Posted by mkvelidadon View Post
      Simply ignore the update. Use your brain. BTW, jailbreaking is illegal.
      JB'ing, in fact, is perfectly legal.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by mkvelidadon View Post
      Simply ignore the update. Use your brain. BTW, jailbreaking is illegal.
      What on earth gives you that idea? Please do not spread malicious lies and FUD.
    1. Apple.'s Avatar
      Apple. -
      Quote Originally Posted by mkvelidadon View Post
      Simply ignore the update. Use your brain. BTW, jailbreaking is illegal.
      IF this were true and IF you read the article

      He stated there was a OTA update Called 'Mandatory Updates' and will lock up your phone to the connect to iTunes screen if you refuse to update
    1. nebo1ss's Avatar
      nebo1ss -
      I am not sure what you mean by OTA. If you unlock your phone and move it to T-Mobile then ATT no longer has access to it on the cellular network. Do you mean the phone has a separate Radio for OTA reception that this signal is being sent on. Or alternatively are you saying it is a keep alive signal sent from ATT and the absence of this will lock the phone? It does sound very far fetched.
    1. GmAz's Avatar
      GmAz -
      And just another reason my plans to buy one of the new Droid-X phones and switching to Verizon is making more sense every day.