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  • Leak or Lie? Apple Steals Your Info While AT&T Locks You In


    A "leak" has been reported on Addictive Tips from an Apple employee code named "Alpha." While we caution anyone to accept the validity of the information until credible sources chime in and more information becomes known, there is growing chatter tonight across the blogosphere about this still dubious "news" item.

    "Alpha" supposedly works in the iPhone Development Department and has been privy to what amounts to a "shocking" revelation that reveals the extent to which both Apple and AT&T will allegedly go to "lock their users and steal their information while they have no clue about it." In the article, Alpha dishes at length about what Apple and AT&T are doing specifically to implement what, if true, amounts to a sneaky consumer retainer scheme. According to the information presented, With iOS 4, AT&T locks all US iPhone owners to their network via regular OTA updates.

    Originally Posted by :
    According to “Alpha”, in iOS 4 there is a line of code which they wrote that sends OTA (Over The Air) updates to the user every 7-14 days which detects and locks the system if it is not using AT&T network. Also AT&T and Apple have 6 months worth of OTA updates in their server which “Alpha” himself checked.
    Additionally, it seems the reason some iPhones were shipped early was to "verify their OTA update system." Also noted is that Apple is stealing user information via FaceTime where there is no encryption. Lastly, Alpha says many Apple employees are on to the scheme and, as a result, they are not updating to iOS 4. Alpha indicated that he even downgraded his OS back to version 3.1.2.

    What may especially be pertinent information to readers on MMi is that when iPhone 4 users call Apple Care Support, "all information is displayed, including the jailbreak and baseband version." Consequently, guess what happens when you request support? Apple staff have been directed to refuse helping those who have broken the contract rules

    Originally Posted by :
    “I will tell you this right now the things I am saying if you where to go to Jobs himself he would deny.”
    Again, we wish to stress that the veracity of this information is unlikely at best. While the aspect of AT&T possibly locking the phones could be legitimate, our research finds that the downgrade process referenced by "Alpha" in the piece appears bogus. Not withstanding, if "Alpha" truly is an Apple employee, he may have the ability to downgrade.

    We'll stay with the story should there be any definitive confirmations or dismissals as to its legitimacy.

    Image via Addictive Tips
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Leak or Lie? Apple Steals Your Info While AT&T Locks You In started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 89 Comments
    1. Forever Young's Avatar
      Forever Young -
      Wow
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      lol I wonder if GeoHot knows of this (if true). I'm sure he can work around just about anything Apple dreams up.
    1. Forever Young's Avatar
      Forever Young -
      Hope it's not true
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      hosts file anyone? snore..
    1. Lurkin's Avatar
      Lurkin -
      i can see this happening, direct tv did the very same thing back when people was hacking the service to get free tv. they would send updates every so often and the cards would quit working till they was reprogrammed.
    1. silent1643's Avatar
      silent1643 -
      this raises one of my eyebrows....
      only one...until confirmed
    1. brandoncarr's Avatar
      brandoncarr -
      Looks like you can just deny the settings update...
    1. Ryfly's Avatar
      Ryfly -
      We will find out soon enough.

      Whoever gets a iPhone 4, jailbreak it, unlock it then call apple! Then we will know if it is true or not.
    1. Nick Hesson's Avatar
      Nick Hesson -
      On the addictivetips website they have "alpha" claiming he can downgrade iOS 4 to 3.1.2 no problem via iTunes without the need of SHSH's. They even posted a guide.

      However, this is all bogus. The guide is bunk and as usual, Apple does not sign older firmware, preventing downgrading.

      My question is, Can all Apply employees downgrade as they please? Sounds like JB paradise over at apple.
    1. wayne53's Avatar
      wayne53 -
      sounds like something AT&T would love to do, especially with rumors of the iPhone being released with other carriers in the near future..they want to lock it down for as long as possible

      Meh..who knows if it's true or not
    1. KartRacer's Avatar
      KartRacer -
      I said awhile back that I was deathly afraid of OTA updates like other carriers do to their phones. While I don't believe this is happening, I've taken my jailbroken phone in for service a few times and only disabled winterboard and have never been turned away, I've been afraid of this for a while. I hope to God they don't go this route, because the next step is to push updates for the firmware and that would cause all kinds of headaches.
    1. relkorama's Avatar
      relkorama -
      I received the same message here in Canada with Rogers...
    1. Justin13's Avatar
      Justin13 -
      What's in it for Apple? Just doesn't add up.
    1. Eagleye's Avatar
      Eagleye -
      Sounds sketchy.. but I wouldnt put it past Apple & AT&T. They come up with all sorts of dumb ideas to regulate their stuff..
    1. zmanforever's Avatar
      zmanforever -
      If this scares you please tell me you saw the news on how the FBI can turn your mics on remotely to record convos!

      The news is all over youtube: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg]YouTube - CELL PHONE (FBI can listen to you when phone is turned off)[/ame]

      And this was last year come on wake up.

      Type in the word illuminati backwards in the address bar and hit go

      www.itanimulli.com


      Big Brother Watching is really the NWO Watching
    1. bobright's Avatar
      bobright -
      I was thinking of waiting to sell my 3GS unlocked with the latest IOS4 but forget it, hearing about this wether true or not just spells = problems.

      Im just selling my 3GS factory restored, to hell with it.
    1. egarc's Avatar
      egarc -
      when iPhone 4 users call Apple Care Support, "all information is displayed, including the jailbreak and baseband version.
      Easy. Just don't call Apple Support from your iPhone.
    1. RyanWS's Avatar
      RyanWS -
      Umm, how could Apple send something to your phone when you have a different companies SIM in?
      This all sounds very false.
    1. NessLookAlike's Avatar
      NessLookAlike -
      Quote Originally Posted by Justin13 View Post
      What's in it for Apple? Just doesn't add up.
      Quote Originally Posted by Messany View Post
      ... Also noted is that Apple is stealing user information via FaceTime where there is no encryption. ...

      What may especially be pertinent information to readers on MMi is that when iPhone 4 users call Apple Care Support, "all information is displayed, including the jailbreak and baseband version." Consequently, guess what happens when you request support? Apple staff have been directed to refuse helping those who have broken the contract rules.
      Stealing information and market research to sell to corporations for better, targeted marketing? Not offer support for a jailbroken device to save time (and potentially money, for replacement)? There are good reasons.
    1. Otacon132's Avatar
      Otacon132 -
      Quote Originally Posted by RyanWS View Post
      Umm, how could Apple send something to your phone when you have a different companies SIM in?
      This all sounds very false.
      exactly what i was about to say......