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  • Geohot's Legal Team Takes Aim at Sony


    Embattled hacker George "Geohot" Hotz isn't going down without a fight in his epic jailbreaking legal battle with Sony. Dragged into a courtroom showdown over his PS3 jailbreaking exploits, Geohot has been subjected to some serious full court pressure by Sony Computer Entertainment America, which is actively seeking to have the case heard in California, conveniently located just outside the company's sprawling headquarters.

    Geohot's lawyer, Stewart Kellar, has finally stepped up to the plate publicly by blasting Sony for demanding that the case be heard in California. Not only would it be "a hardship for Hotz to travel there," it would "set a precedent for companies being able to sue anyone, anywhere, on relatively flimsy grounds," the International Business Times reports.

    Kellar, however, went much further than to just criticize the PS3 maker for trying to relocate Geohot for court. Kellar also says SCEA "isn't even a subsidiary of Sony Japan (the actual producer of the PlayStation 3) and the "entity that should be suing." In addition to arguing why SCEA shouldn't be upset with Geohot, Kellar is seemingly asserting that SCEA doesn't have much to do with this matter, at least in the sense that everything in the PlayStation's "system, software and packaging all point to Sony Japan as the producer."

    The latest efforts by Geohot's legal team represent some degree of good news of the infamous hacker, who last week was accused of "fleeing the country," presumably to evade authorities, critics contended. But Geohot has since rebuffed those mainstream media reports, noting that his vacation was in the works for months and that he was in touch with his lawyers
    for the duration of the trip.

    Source: International Business Times
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Geohot's Legal Team Takes Aim at Sony started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 105 Comments
    1. JarrettL's Avatar
      JarrettL -
      I can't imagine his legal team being able to beat their's should this go to a hearing but it would be absolutely wonderful if this latest attempt by his lawyer were enough for the judge to consider whether Sony's case has grounds. Having the case thrown out is just as desireable as winning. Maybe not for future precedence-sake, but for the well being of GeoHot. Stay with it!
    1. delusion950's Avatar
      delusion950 -
      These guys seem like they're defending him by talking and walking backwards.
    1. Cowboy's Avatar
      Cowboy -
      Glad to here geohotz lawyers stepping up

      Go him!!!
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      I think that's awesome!!! Sony (America) are trying to throw their weight around and one man is taking them on. Nice call, BTW, for finding that SCEA has no business in the matter! Good luck, GeoHot...make it ra1n!
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      And nice article, Essany! Ignore the haters here on MMI.
    1. vedavis's Avatar
      vedavis -
      The outcome of this case is going to produce sweeping effects either for or against modders; it will be monumental. My personal belief is that the modders will win.
    1. nmn's Avatar
      nmn -
      if anything he should be commended by sony for hacking their product in which they can patch security holes
      and its his ps3 he can do whatever to it tell sony to take a hike
    1. Marty331's Avatar
      Marty331 -
      I just don't get it, if I buy a product I own that product. Can Ford sue me for putting a new engine in my truck? I don't think so. Screw Sony and anyone related to them. Go Geo!
    1. ClerkDante's Avatar
      ClerkDante -
      All legal stuff aside, do we need to see that photo everytime you dedicate yet another story to this kid?

      Makes him look like a serial killer or animal rapist.
    1. CX3NT3_713's Avatar
      CX3NT3_713 -
      Jeezzz geohot needs haircut bad!! Better open his paypal account again
    1. iSteed's Avatar
      iSteed -
      I hope his lawyers shut sony the **** up
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      Quote Originally Posted by ClerkDante View Post
      All legal stuff aside, do we need to see that photo everytime you dedicate yet another story to this kid?

      Makes him look like a serial killer or animal rapist.
      I don't know, to me he looks more like some smelly kid watching "2 girls 1 cup".
    1. oldgit9's Avatar
      oldgit9 -
      i hate big corporations like Sony, McDonalds, Microsoft, Apple etc. who do they think they are? if it wasn't for the likes of you and me, they would not be where they are today. they all seem to forget this. and if it wasn't for the hackers/modders, to they really think that they would have come up with all the ideas for their products. like sony's PSP for prime example. if it wasn't for the hackers, they would not have introduced XMB theme's, games that can be played from flash memory. making the UMD redundant. oh...sony have done so in the new PSP Go. just to name a few things.

      so why are corporations so against people making their products better? you dont see car manufacturers like Ford, GM etc taking people to court, just because someone has added a body kit, increased the engines BHP cut the roof down by a few inches. car modders have been doing this since the car was invented. and to my recollection, no car manufacturer has taken some to court because of this....there are even large companies like Brabus (to name one) who tune Mercedes cars. or on the other scale, alloy wheels and exhaust manufacturers.

      what is this world coming to??? when corporations just like Sony, think that, just because they are a big company, that they can sue people for making their products better. it's not as if Geohot made a profit from leaking the source code in the first place. he just opened the floodgate so that people can do whatever they want to the PS3.

      here's another question that should be asked. when you buy a PS3, Xbox, iPhone, a TV etc. the product usually comes with a one years manufacturers warranty. and when this warranty runs out, if the product becomes faulty (even if it's a month over the warranty period) then they will refuse to fix the faulty item. does this mean that, if i wait a year after i bought the PS3 etc and then hack it, that the likes of Sony can not sue us, as it's out of their warranty period?
    1. drewstone's Avatar
      drewstone -
      ^Agreed. When i tell Sony or Apple what to do with the $ i spend on the product that i own after the money is exchanged, then they can tell me what to do with said product. Sony, shove it up your Blue-ray disc!!
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by oldgit9 View Post
      i hate big corporations like Sony, McDonalds, Microsoft, Apple etc. who do they think they are? if it wasn't for the likes of you and me, they would not be where they are today. they all seem to forget this. and if it wasn't for the hackers/modders, to they really think that they would have come up with all the ideas for their products. like sony's PSP for prime example. if it wasn't for the hackers, they would not have introduced XMB theme's, games that can be played from flash memory. making the UMD redundant. oh...sony have done so in the new PSP Go. just to name a few things.

      so why are corporations so against people making their products better? you dont see car manufacturers like Ford, GM etc taking people to court, just because someone has added a body kit, increased the engines BHP cut the roof down by a few inches. car modders have been doing this since the car was invented. and to my recollection, no car manufacturer has taken some to court because of this....there are even large companies like Brabus (to name one) who tune Mercedes cars. or on the other scale, alloy wheels and exhaust manufacturers.

      what is this world coming to??? when corporations just like Sony, think that, just because they are a big company, that they can sue people for making their products better. it's not as if Geohot made a profit from leaking the source code in the first place. he just opened the floodgate so that people can do whatever they want to the PS3.

      here's another question that should be asked. when you buy a PS3, Xbox, iPhone, a TV etc. the product usually comes with a one years manufacturers warranty. and when this warranty runs out, if the product becomes faulty (even if it's a month over the warranty period) then they will refuse to fix the faulty item. does this mean that, if i wait a year after i bought the PS3 etc and then hack it, that the likes of Sony can not sue us, as it's out of their warranty period?
      Seriously? You still don't understand their reasoning?
    1. oldgit9's Avatar
      oldgit9 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      Seriously? You still don't understand their reasoning?
      if you mean to sue someone for finding a away to make a product better (in the long run....just like the PSP), then yeah i "don't understand their reasoning". as sony did not sue Dark Alex (the guy behind the PSP's Custom Firmware and other dev teams) for making the PSP a better product, so why sue Geohot?

      if it was down to reasoning, then why aren't more manufacturers on the same band wagon. yeah i know Apple and Microsoft are trying. personally, i think that the big corporations are so far up their own backsides, they have forgotten what daylight looks like.
    1. ahahthunder's Avatar
      ahahthunder -
      Exactly! Companies like Sony and Apple seem to prohibit customization and freedom. What am I doing that is hurting these companies? I'm sure they took enough of my money.
    1. Bmxnick101's Avatar
      Bmxnick101 -
      I don't care... ITS MINE!!! I hate companies telling me what to/not todo with it... I'm not stealing games or movies.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by oldgit9 View Post
      if you mean to sue someone for finding a away to make a product better (in the long run....just like the PSP), then yeah i "don't understand their reasoning". as sony did not sue Dark Alex (the guy behind the PSP's Custom Firmware and other dev teams) for making the PSP a better product, so why sue Geohot?

      if it was down to reasoning, then why aren't more manufacturers on the same band wagon. yeah i know Apple and Microsoft are trying. personally, i think that the big corporations are so far up their own backsides, they have forgotten what daylight looks like.
      Go read about the actual case and what exactly George released to the public.
    1. Orby's Avatar
      Orby -
      I typed up a long argument as to why Geohot's lawyer is both an idiot and very wrong, but I'd rather not give the prosecution any ideas...

      We're going with "this argument is a fallacious sophistry, the prosecution will shoot this down even without the judge's help."