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  • First Locationgate Federal Suit Filed


    Bloomberg is reporting the first Federal Lawsuit has been filed against Apple pertaining to the iSpy/Locationgate/other-generic-name scandal.

    The suit was filed April 22 in Tampa, Florida, at a federal court by Vikram Ajjampur, a Florida based iphone user, and William Devito, a New York based iPad customer. The two men filed suit hoping to have a judge bar the alleged data collection by Apple.

    The complaint is filled with familiar claims regarding location based data collection, that until recently, has occurred unbeknownst to iOS users. The two men wish to represent the U.S. customers whose iOS devices are allegedly collecting their location data. Also, the two men are seeking refunds claiming they would not have purchased the phones if they had known about the data collection.

    “We take issue specifically with the notion that Apple is now basically tracking people everywhere they go,” Aaron Mayer, an attorney for the plaintiffs, said today in a telephone interview with Bloomberg. “If you are a federal marshal you have to have a warrant to do this kind of thing, and Apple is doing it without one.”
    The question still remains though: Who is going to serve Steve Jobs his "notice of suit" legal papers. Or who even gets served those papers? If it is in fact Jobs, how does one go about getting him to confirm his identity before servicing said papers?

    Sources: Bloomberg
    This article was originally published in forum thread: First Locationgate Federal Suit Filed started by Phillip Swanson View original post
    Comments 84 Comments
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by fraggot View Post
      McDonalds losing does not change the fact that it's ridiculous. Just like all phones, you can opt out some way but that doesn't leave you entirely in the clear, the cell towers and other functions need your general location for many reasons.
      You may think it is same thing but it is not.
      You have to knowingly code this tracking program into iOS, so someone knows about it. It might be the same thing if McDonalds purposely grease the coffee cup so the woman spills it? Obiously Apple plan on using it or else it would not be written, and not putting any security measures as well as an off button makes it a violation of privacy.
      BTW did something good come out of that McDonald's lawsuit? Yes it did, the design of the cups is different which prevented more people from dropping it.

      The fact that you can shut it off leave Android in the clear.
    1. atm_10142k's Avatar
      atm_10142k -
      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      suit is against Apple as a corporate entity not against Jobs. There is no grounds to file against Jobs unless they can prove Jobs is the one that specifically told programmers to encode locationgate or whatever you want to call it into iOS.

      Bet Apple is going to have iOS 4.3.3 soon...
      Boy news must be slow these days. Who in the world came up with such lame a** name as "Locationgate". Everyone is jut throwing mud at Apple hoping something will stick. Apple has written a 13 page letter to congress last year explaining this very same issue. Everyone need to quit knee jerk action to this issue. People need to read up on the facts before jumping to conclusion. Apple is smarter then to do something that be an issue. They have attorneys that will let them know if there will be an issue with certain things. Everyone is trying to knock Apple of its perch.
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by politicalslug View Post
      Who are these people coming from the woodwork, and who are these bottom feeder lawyers willing to represent them. With any luck Apple will bankrupt these sharks since civil case victories require that legal fees be paid by the loser. Refunds? My god!
      Lawyer is willing to represent anybody, if there is a case that can get them lots or money or fame plenty of them is willing to help at no cost to plaintiff. Though Apple is rich, Apple is nothing when compared to the legal fees lawyers make per year as a whole.
    1. tekwiz's Avatar
      tekwiz -
      "The complaint is filled with familiar claims regarding location based data collection, that until recently, has occurred unbeknownst to iOS users."

      Sigh This isn't new, was reported over a year ago, has been happening since 4.0 and has had a entire book written on the subject. Please copy your stories from more informed sources.
    1. TheJailbreakGenius's Avatar
      TheJailbreakGenius -
      I love the first sentence. Generic is the best word ever.
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by atm_10142k View Post
      People need to read up on the facts before jumping to conclusion. Apple is smarter then to do something that be an issue. The have attorneys that will let them know if there will be an issue with certain things. Everyone is trying to knock Apple of its perch.
      The fact that I used the program and was able to track my movements each single day proves that the claim is legit, I do not need someone else to come and tell me that "locationgate" is not happening when I see proof that it is.

      Than is used when you want to use to compare things.

      Do you think a lawyer is standing behind every programmer and asking questions about what codes they are writing? The fact that Jobs denies that this is happening shows lawyers they hire have no control at Apple, if lawyer was in control Jobs should just put a word out saying Apple do not have any comment on this matter or it will be address at a later date.
    1. TheJailbreakGenius's Avatar
      TheJailbreakGenius -
      Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Swanson View Post


      [URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-25/apple-accused-in-suit-of-tracking-ipad-iphone-user-location-1-.html"]

      The question still remains though: Who is going to serve Steve Jobs his "notice of suit" legal papers. Or who even gets served those papers? If it is in fact Jobs, how does one go about getting him to confirm his identity before servicing said papers?

      Sources: Bloomberg
      That's not funny. Don't make fun of Steve.
    1. TheJailbreakGenius's Avatar
      TheJailbreakGenius -
      Quote Originally Posted by atm_10142k View Post
      Boy news must be slow these days. Who in the world came up with such lame a** name as "Locationgate". Everyone is jut throwing mud at Apple hoping something will stick. Apple has written a 13 page letter to congress last year explaining this very same issue. Everyone need to quit knee jerk action to this issue. People need to read up on the facts before jumping to conclusion. Apple is smarter then to do something that be an issue. The have attorneys that will let them know if there will be an issue with certain things. Everyone is trying to knock Apple of its perch.
      +1
    1. TheJailbreakGenius's Avatar
      TheJailbreakGenius -
      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      Lawyer is willing to represent anybody, if there is a case that can get them lots or money or fame plenty of them is willing to help at no cost to plaintiff. Though Apple is rich, Apple is nothing when compared to the legal fees lawyers make per year as a whole.
      Where did u get the woodwork quote?
    1. IClueless's Avatar
      IClueless -
      Hang on a minute, guys! Has everyone been watching too many Bourne movies lately? What is the big deal with the location tracking? I will gladly tell anyone who wants to know where I have been over the last year if they are interested. Unless you are one of the top drug dealers in the Country do you really give a s..t if you are being tracked? This lawsuit is another ridiculous attempt of desperate people to better themselves off by pretending they are affected by something they are not.
    1. youngone305's Avatar
      youngone305 -
      Way of time they not going to win
    1. youngone305's Avatar
      youngone305 -
      I mean waste
    1. iliveudie's Avatar
      iliveudie -
      Quote Originally Posted by fraggot View Post
      This is the most ridiculous lawsuit next to the McDonalds Hot Coffee incident. Almost every mobile device and computer does this, it's nothing new at all.

      Even the cheap free piece of **** phones you get from AT&T keep track of where you "were" on some level. Anyone who cares or is worried about someone discovering their GPS coordinates from 5 hours ago need a hobby or a life of some kind.
      That's not the point...the point is it is available for ANYONE to get. Sure, google and all the other companies track your web browsing and locations...but I can't go look up people and see the data myself. It's locked down.
    1. Phillip Swanson's Avatar
      Phillip Swanson -
      Quote Originally Posted by politicalslug View Post
      Serve S. Jobs? I dunno if you're trying to be clever or just an idiot, but it's just dumb. Apple /= Steve Jobs. Who are these people coming from the woodwork, and who are these bottom feeder lawyers willing to represent them. With any luck Apple will bankrupt these sharks since civil case victories require that legal fees be paid by the loser. Refunds? My god!
      I understand how the legal system works. I myself served legal papers as a part time job last summer. Now there is something that should be a reality T.V. show. Some of the stuff you see is downright ridiculous.
    1. Lombardo Joe's Avatar
      Lombardo Joe -
      Quote Originally Posted by ronfin44 View Post
      Oh look, Johnny Fu*king Appleseed was at Wawa yesterday.
      I pity those who read this and reside in locations where WaWa does not exist/reign supreme. WaWa forever.


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. DJ NiveK's Avatar
      DJ NiveK -
      Lol i dont mind really, the only place it would show would be home
    1. djdraco's Avatar
      djdraco -
      I like the idea of tracking, it can also help AT&T with seeing where users are to know what areas they may need to focus on for better cell service.

      It is funny to see the types of lawsuits these days. People just see an opportunity for a quick buck.

      Has anyone ever thought to sue charmin if the packaging says 500 sheets and you only get 490?
    1. MXCO's Avatar
      MXCO -
      I feel important knowing apple wants to know where I been. They'll be pissed that I haven't been in an apple store in over a year.
    1. RICO_'s Avatar
      RICO_ -
      You guys are clearly holding your phone wrong causing it to emit tracking data.

      Apple will simply explain it as a security glitch and will "patch" it with a software update and it will all soon be forgotten and all will be good in the world again.
    1. 14u2nv's Avatar
      14u2nv -
      I'm curious as if some of you have even looked at the maps, or have really thought about it. I looked at mine, and they can get a general idea of where I've been, but it had me in Nevada which I've never been to (I live in MO) and it has me using thousands of towers in the midwest, that I've never been close to. To filter through it all, would take forever so more power to them. ALSO, you guys are freaking out over location being tracked. Have you heard of 911? How do you think they find you when you wreck your moped trying to take it off some sweet jumps in the mountains? It is Naive to think you aren't at least in some way being "watched/tracked/stalked/whatever you want to call it" in todays society. Not everything is being done just to make your life miserable. I for one would rather worry about gas prices than someone knowing where I go camping.

      *btw, every time you use your cc, debit card, id, etc you are essentially being tracked. Don't believe me, look at your bill or history, every location you used it was tracked. Now someone needs to go sue those companies cuz you didn't authorize them to keep a record of where you were. *rolleyes*