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  • First Locationgate Federal Suit Filed


    Bloomberg is reporting the first Federal Lawsuit has been filed against Apple pertaining to the iSpy/Locationgate/other-generic-name scandal.

    The suit was filed April 22 in Tampa, Florida, at a federal court by Vikram Ajjampur, a Florida based iphone user, and William Devito, a New York based iPad customer. The two men filed suit hoping to have a judge bar the alleged data collection by Apple.

    The complaint is filled with familiar claims regarding location based data collection, that until recently, has occurred unbeknownst to iOS users. The two men wish to represent the U.S. customers whose iOS devices are allegedly collecting their location data. Also, the two men are seeking refunds claiming they would not have purchased the phones if they had known about the data collection.

    “We take issue specifically with the notion that Apple is now basically tracking people everywhere they go,” Aaron Mayer, an attorney for the plaintiffs, said today in a telephone interview with Bloomberg. “If you are a federal marshal you have to have a warrant to do this kind of thing, and Apple is doing it without one.”
    The question still remains though: Who is going to serve Steve Jobs his "notice of suit" legal papers. Or who even gets served those papers? If it is in fact Jobs, how does one go about getting him to confirm his identity before servicing said papers?

    Sources: Bloomberg
    This article was originally published in forum thread: First Locationgate Federal Suit Filed started by Phillip Swanson View original post
    Comments 84 Comments
    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      Quote Originally Posted by ronfin44 View Post
      God, who cares. This is ridiculous. Why the Hell does anyone care if someone knows where you WERE? Who gives a sh*t. Oh look, Johnny Fu*king Appleseed was at Wawa yesterday. Now we got him! ugh. Sometimes the way people over-react to petty things is more annoying than the actual issue at hand.

      exactly!!!! I love you!!
    1. HamHam1313's Avatar
      HamHam1313 -
      It doesn't actually store your name or any personal information, I really don't get why people are freaking out. Your credit card companies know where you are/have been, what you buy, where you live and probably a ton other personal information.
    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      The idiocy here continues with paranoid kids who "claim" to know a lot about iphones(which after this issue we can all see you're technologically illiterate when it comes to today's technology). You're location is logged by nearby cellphone towers and stored on your iphone, then after each sync it gets stored in your backed up iphone file on your computer. NO ONE views that information and every cell phone does it, even if you disable "location tracking". It's part of the make up of the cell phone and apple is an unfortunate victim. The only reason why Apple was "caught" is because some stupid college teen wanted to make a few $$$ and start a lawsuit.

      Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
      Nothing bad may happen now, but it sets a bad precedent. Eventually, when all phones all over the world become smart phones with user tracking, the data could be used by rouge governments to track and punish dissidents, sometimes even killing them. Don't believe me? It already happened via Facebook and email with the recent middle east uprisings.

      So anyway, you were saying…?
      yea, someones gonna use your location as of 10 hours ago to totally **** your life up!
    1. iGrime's Avatar
      iGrime -
      Quote Originally Posted by baRRy boRRis View Post
      There you go . . . blindly accept.

      You are in the wrong for blindly accepting it, regardless of if you like what it is or not.

      Do you think that Apple are allowed to put something illegal into the Terms and Conditions of the world's most popular desktop media player?! No. No they aren't.

      I'm glad to be a 'fanboy' if that means that I'm not a narrow minded, 'trigger happy' mentally defective child like some people on this forum.

      "I'm suing Apple for perfectly legally storing a log on my computer of mobile phone towers I have connected to. They told me they were doing it and it might save my life when I'm kidnapped but I don't want them to know that I keep on using a mobile phone tower that's near my affair's house.

      I want a billion million $$$ for damages."

      Good luck with that


      Hahahaha.... This is what i mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. If i was Apple i would make this people life living hell!!!! Stuck up dumb a*s!!!!!
    1. ShredNasty's Avatar
      ShredNasty -
      I hope Apple loses. There is ZERO need for this type of data to be stored. Period.

      Anyone know what happens when you delete the file with iFile?

      Quote Originally Posted by Dark Syn View Post
      The idiocy here continues with paranoid kids who "claim" to know a lot about iphones(which after this issue we can all see you're technologically illiterate when it comes to today's technology). You're location is logged by nearby cellphone towers and stored on your iphone, then after each sync it gets stored in your backed up iphone file on your computer. NO ONE views that information and every cell phone does it, even if you disable "location tracking".
      Asinine. And what if a different college kid develops an app to start mining data from that file? And what else besides location is stored in consolidated.db?

      But further, what in the wide world of f*ck does iTunes NEED that info for? And BTW, cell phone TOWERS are what store this data, for instance for law enforcement. S'how they PROVE your location WITHOUT having your phone. Watch an episode of Forensic Files sometime, bruh. So the file is pointless? Then F*CKING LOSE IT! Problem fixed.
    1. damoek's Avatar
      damoek -
      has anyone pulled their own location data up to see what it looked like?
    1. Spaceman1701's Avatar
      Spaceman1701 -
      Quote Originally Posted by whereswaldo View Post
      I don't see this going far. Apple will be the first to point out that they agreed to be tracked
      Agreed.

      If it does go through and works out and they win, it will be us consumers who will pay in the long run. Either by raised prices or loss of services and funtionality of our iphones.
      Not like we ALL didnt click "accept" to the terms. Personally I think the "tracking software" is for our use to help with apps and such.
    1. LGgeek's Avatar
      LGgeek -
      Agree with rkswat, it does matter. Our rights as individuals are slowly being taken away, many thought it would be the government that would do it but turns out it is the corporations.


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    1. Mes's Avatar
      Mes -
      Quote Originally Posted by LGgeek View Post
      Agree with rkswat, it does matter. Our rights as individuals are slowly being taken away, many thought it would be the government that would do it but turns out it is the corporations...
      Anyone (and everyone) will try to take it away.

      Individual rights go hand-in-hand with our constitutional freedoms and Bill of Rights. They are NOT passive activities. Be silent, be passive, accept everything without question and they're gone!
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dark Syn View Post
      The idiocy here continues with paranoid kids who "claim" to know a lot about iphones(which after this issue we can all see you're technologically illiterate when it comes to today's technology). You're location is logged by nearby cellphone towers and stored on your iphone, then after each sync it gets stored in your backed up iphone file on your computer.
      No the idiocy is where I bold in your comment.
      What is the need of iTunes backing up this file? Does AT&T have access to iTunes or your computer to get this cellphone towers so they can improve on service? Why even go this route when they can do all the logs on their own tower, link to it wirelessly and get all info they needed without breaching people's personal privacy.
      Apple actually modified iTunes to backup this info, what is the point of doing so when the information is never going to be used? Because someone was paid to code this for the iOS on the phone, then add the backup programming in iTunes. You do not do all that when it was never intended to be used.
    1. fraggot's Avatar
      fraggot -
      Quote Originally Posted by iliveudie View Post
      That's not the point...the point is it is available for ANYONE to get. Sure, google and all the other companies track your web browsing and locations...but I can't go look up people and see the data myself. It's locked down.
      This information isn't available to anyone though, it's on MY phone and MY PC. If someone steals one of them, theyll know where I was at some point in time in my life. Who cares? I'm not the president, I'm just a graphic designer living in Louisville, KY. OH NO I GAVE AWAY MY LOCATION!
    1. vavtnen's Avatar
      vavtnen -
      It doesnt matter to you but it does matter to me and other.

      You enjoy your freedom but you doesnt value it. Try to go live in china, north korean or vietnam then you will value the freedom you have now.

      I read somewhere that obama does use an ipad.
      Quote Originally Posted by fraggot View Post
      This information isn't available to anyone though, it's on MY phone and MY PC. If someone steals one of them, theyll know where I was at some point in time in my life. Who cares? I'm not the president, I'm just a graphic designer living in Louisville, KY. OH NO I GAVE AWAY MY LOCATION!
    1. boxxa's Avatar
      boxxa -
      Useless lawsuit. I'm sure in the 50 page TOS for the iDevice there is something about location data collecting.
    1. Mes's Avatar
      Mes -
      ---------- Updated Info ----------------

      Actually, iPhone sends your location to Apple twice a day

      Actually, iPhone sends your location to Apple twice a day - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab
    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      Quote Originally Posted by ShredNasty View Post
      I hope Apple loses. There is ZERO need for this type of data to be stored. Period.

      Anyone know what happens when you delete the file with iFile?

      Asinine. And what if a different college kid develops an app to start mining data from that file? And what else besides location is stored in consolidated.db?

      But further, what in the wide world of f*ck does iTunes NEED that info for? And BTW, cell phone TOWERS are what store this data, for instance for law enforcement. S'how they PROVE your location WITHOUT having your phone. Watch an episode of Forensic Files sometime, bruh. So the file is pointless? Then F*CKING LOSE IT! Problem fixed.
      Yea, I'm sure that college kid can really turn your life over with outdated info.


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    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      Quote Originally Posted by unison999 View Post
      No the idiocy is where I bold in your comment.
      What is the need of iTunes backing up this file? Does AT&T have access to iTunes or your computer to get this cellphone towers so they can improve on service? Why even go this route when they can do all the logs on their own tower, link to it wirelessly and get all info they needed without breaching people's personal privacy.
      Apple actually modified iTunes to backup this info, what is the point of doing so when the information is never going to be used? Because someone was paid to code this for the iOS on the phone, then add the backup programming in iTunes. You do not do all that when it was never intended to be used.

      Because iTunes backs up information of the cellular towers incase you restore your iPhone.
      and for godsakes you're being "tracked" all the time no matter what product you use. Maybe you should just drop all cellular devices all together and stay with landlines. Oh wait, they store your location too


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    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      Quote Originally Posted by LGgeek View Post
      Agree with rkswat, it does matter. Our rights as individuals are slowly being taken away, many thought it would be the government that would do it but turns out it is the corporations.


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      Get a hobby, you need one


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    1. xKLBx's Avatar
      xKLBx -
      Funny and Stupid at the same time..

      You do have an option for locational services ( dont know if it matters?) and every app you open for the first time. "APP NAME" would like to use your current location. Wouldnt that store your "current" location aka track where you are? Camera app geo tags now. COOL FEATURE.. Then someone is worried they are being tracked?.. seriously?

      Yeah dont wanna be tracked. get off grid. no cc, phones, internet, etc anything electronic.
    1. TheJailbreakGenius's Avatar
      TheJailbreakGenius -
      Quote Originally Posted by ShredNasty View Post
      I hope Apple loses. There is ZERO need for this type of data to be stored. Period.

      Anyone know what happens when you delete the file with iFile?

      Asinine. And what if a different college kid develops an app to start mining data from that file? And what else besides location is stored in consolidated.db?

      But further, what in the wide world of f*ck does iTunes NEED that info for? And BTW, cell phone TOWERS are what store this data, for instance for law enforcement. S'how they PROVE your location WITHOUT having your phone. Watch an episode of Forensic Files sometime, bruh. So the file is pointless? Then F*CKING LOSE IT! Problem fixed.
      Hehe, ur not cheating on ur wife...
    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      Quote Originally Posted by smith.william View Post
      Why I am not able to post new thread ?
      did you verify your email to activate your account?