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  • US Lawmakers Pressure Apple to Pull DUI Checkpoints App


    On Wednesday, four prominent US Senators: Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), and Tom Udall (D-N.M.) joined forces to send a letter expressing "grave concern" to Apple. The four lawmakers are astonished that Apple would continue to permit the downloading of applications designed to notify motorists of where police commonly patrol in search of drunk drivers.

    As it turns out, these DUI checkpoint apps are quite popular, and a wide variety are currently available. One application the letter explicitly points to contains a database of DUI checkpoints that is updated in real-time. Another application, with more than 10 million users, let's users alert each other to DUI checkpoints in real time. Naturally, the four senators addressed how these apps make it difficult for police to protect innocent people from drunk drivers.

    "With more than 10,000 Americans dying in drunk-driving crashes every year, providing access to iPhone and iPad applications that alert users to DUI checkpoints is harmful to public safety," the letter states. "We know that your company shares our desire to end the scourge of drunk driving and we therefore would ask you to remove these applications from your store."

    The same letter was also sent to Google and Research in Motion.

    Fewer than 24 hours after the letter was sent, RIM effectively pulled all DUI checkpoint apps for BlackBerry users. The move drew immediate praise from lawmakers. Still, Apple is yet to offer public comment on the matter. Same goes for Google chief Eric Schmidt. Of course, both Apple and Google are no strangers to taking heat in response to controversial apps gaining access to their respective app stores. And neither is famous for reacting quickly to such protests.

    Source: ABC News
    This article was originally published in forum thread: US Lawmakers Pressure Apple to Pull DUI Checkpoints App started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 71 Comments
    1. KBI2113's Avatar
      KBI2113 -
      So they say it's different because they can plan their route accordingly. If you watched the news, couldn't you do the same thing?

      I've never drank in my life and this just makes me want to find the app so I can avoid stupid checkpoints.
    1. alexevo's Avatar
      alexevo -
      Yeah I just downloaded it to have it in case it gets pulled from the app store. Thanks to the news for telling me about this because I didn't know about it before haha.
    1. KBI2113's Avatar
      KBI2113 -
      In my own opinion, Trapster never really even worked that well for me. Maybe for others, it just wasn't my cup of tea.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
      I would be surprised, with the direction our country's morals have been heading(straight down the toilet), if these apps were pulled. I don't see it happening. People are so self centered and they start spouting civil liberties without a clue as to how their lives would be affected if someone they loved were to be killed by a drunk driver. Why not start condoning rapist apps, drug dealing apps, best place to commit a murder apps? Why condone this?
      I think a better app would be one that tells pedophiles the best spots to scope out little kiddies.

      I support the removal of this app. I don't view it as a legal issue but rather I feel it's simply a matter of doing what's best for the community.

      Then again, I also hold the opinion that all automobiles should be required by law to come with Interlock devices installed. God knows nothing got in the way of me driving back when I drank, I'm just eternally grateful I never injured or harmed anyone from it.
    1. D3VIL1's Avatar
      D3VIL1 -
      apple = known enforcement point
    1. mw_w's Avatar
      mw_w -
      Quote Originally Posted by sammo123 View Post
      Apple should not pull these apps. It gives the government more power than they deserve. I for one think its our right to own this app just as its our right to use radar detectors
      I'm with you...very good point.
    1. thetoothfairy's Avatar
      thetoothfairy -
      I don't drink period. However I don't think the app should be removed because people use fuzz busters to know where the big boys are.
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      Quote Originally Posted by sammo123 View Post
      Apple should not pull these apps. It gives the government more power than they deserve. I for one think its our right to own this app just as its our right to use radar detectors
      But wouldn't you agree that driving drunk is not only irresponsible, but dangerous to yourself and others? So why should there be an app designed to keep drunk drivers from being arrested? I understand your point but I also think that radar detectors are detrimental to society because they help you break the law. It would be no different if apple approved an app designed to help you hide the signs of child abuse. I see no grey area here, those apps (and radar detectors but that's not what this topic is) should be pulled because all they do is help people break the law.

      And this is a pretty personal/moral argument for a lot of people so don't flame anyone.
    1. bigorangekitty's Avatar
      bigorangekitty -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      I think a better app would be one that tells pedophiles the best spots to scope out little kiddies.

      I support the removal of this app. I don't view it as a legal issue but rather I feel it's simply a matter of doing what's best for the community.

      Then again, I also hold the opinion that all automobiles should be required by law to come with Interlock devices installed. God knows nothing got in the way of me driving back when I drank, I'm just eternally grateful I never injured or harmed anyone from it.
      DUDE? MOLESTING CHILDREN IS NOT THE SAME!!!!! THAT IS SO F--CKED UP THAT YOU WOULD EVEN MAKE A COMPARISON.... comparing an adult choice to drink, to molesting a child? POOR TASTE!

      WAY OUT OF LINE!!!!

      what were you thinking?

      I'm not easily offended, but you have managed to do that.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by bigorangekitty View Post
      DUDE? MOLESTING CHILDREN IS NOT THE SAME!!!!! THAT IS SO F--CKED UP THAT YOU WOULD EVEN MAKE A COMPARISON.... comparing an adult choice to drink, to molesting a child? POOR TASTE!

      WAY OUT OF LINE!!!!

      what were you thinking?

      I'm not easily offended, but you have managed to do that.
      Why?
      It's public information anyways.
      Maybe some people would use it to find popular playgrounds to allow their kids to meet other children?
      Having an app such as that wouldn't mean you are going to molest a child.
      I'm merely using the same logic applied to this dui app.

      Also, I was not comparing an adults choice to drink to molestation. I was comparing an adults decision to get drunk and then get behind the wheel and put countless lives at risk.
    1. bigorangekitty's Avatar
      bigorangekitty -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      Why?
      It's public information anyways.
      Maybe some people would use it to find popular playgrounds to allow their kids to meet other children?
      Having an app such as that wouldn't mean you are going to molest a child.
      I'm merely using the same logic applied to this dui app.

      Also, I was not comparing an adults choice to drink to molestation. I was comparing an adults decision to get drunk and then get behind the wheel and put countless lives at risk.
      i'm not here to argue...i do not want to get off topic. I hope you realize....
      THE COMPARISON OF MOLESTING OF CHILDREN TO DRINKING?
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      no, drunk driving and taking extensive steps to try and get away with it is what i'm comparing it to.
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      more people die each year from cigarette related illnesses than DUI related deaths. whats the Senate doing about banning cigarettes? this is just bull5h1t propaganda
    1. ohthatguyagain's Avatar
      ohthatguyagain -
      So, basically, a forum with geotags... And they think there's a problem with that?

      Maybe police could use encouragement to mix it up instead of catching the same drunk Tom, Bob, and Fred every night.
    1. Yorshek's Avatar
      Yorshek -
      Sanctimonious politicians! Or just protecting self-interest?
      Anyone too drunk to drive can't use this App anyway...But the hype of Apple products somehow makes this "letter" newsworthy enough for the media to focus on an relatively old topic that's been done to death. Of course, no one wants to have more drunk drivers on the road. But DUI check points is clearly harassment;they exists on the assumption is that you are over the limit and therefore must go through a sobriety test. A reasonable counter measure is that "there is an App for that!" Take that away, you might as well kiss the Constitution good bye@!
    1. javiert30's Avatar
      javiert30 -
      I use Trapster, it shows you the location of speed cameras, checkpoints, live police, and actual accident locations, it helps you in a lot of ways not just for checkpoints. I use it and I dont drink. It's everything about money. But what is a speed trap, its a stupid trap that the police or somebody like a "traffic engineer" put in a road asigned by the goverment. They have hundreds of them all over United States with no sense just to give you a ticket and take your money, like for example you are driving in a road that the limit is 70MPH then out of the sun turns into a 40MPH zone in two seconds, and the live police is right there waiting for you, that is a stupid speed trap designed to catch you and give you a stupid ticket. Thats why most of us use this kind of app, we got rights too, we cant stop the police or whoever is making these stupid speed traps, but we can evade them knowing with time that we got to reduce the speed before we find one of them. So if they take it out of App Store, I hope we can see it in Cydia soon. Go grab that App on Apple Store before is to late.

      Want to see what Im talking about? Look here and see by yourself how many stupid speed traps we got in United States. Thats why we need those kind of Apps.
    1. thetoothfairy's Avatar
      thetoothfairy -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      I think a better app would be one that tells pedophiles the best spots to scope out little kiddies.

      I support the removal of this app. I don't view it as a legal issue but rather I feel it's simply a matter of doing what's best for the community.

      Then again, I also hold the opinion that all automobiles should be required by law to come with Interlock devices installed. God knows nothing got in the way of me driving back when I drank, I'm just eternally grateful I never injured or harmed anyone from it.
      Your first sentence of this post was in poor taste and offended others. Please refrain from posting things like this.
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      These apps should not be pulled, just another attempt for the government to try to seize control. First government in our sports, now in our app store. Socialistic pigs!
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by thetoothfairy View Post
      Your first sentence of this post was in poor taste and offended others. Please refrain from posting things like this.
      Agreed! Not a good comment at all!

      I bet the Senators use this app to avoid DUI Checkpoints Probably just got enough whining and complaining from the fuzz that they feel like they need to do something about it before parents start in as well.
    1. MooMoo92's Avatar
      MooMoo92 -
      I'm sure the apps are good for more than just giving drunk drivers a way out, they can help save time and prevent other drivers from being caught out on minimal violations. Besides, if you're really that far gone I'm sure looking at an app to avoid a checkpoint is definitely not going to be the first thing on your mind...