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  • Apple Chief Steve Jobs Allegedly Responds to iOS Location Tracking


    Reports surfaced Monday morning that Apple CEO Steve Jobs has responded to accusations that iOS devices track user location data. Late last week, two prominent security researchers came forward saying that they have discovered that the iPhone maintains a location log that includes longitudinal and latitudinal coordinates as well as a timestamp. Each time the iPhone is synced to the computer a new log file is created.

    In the wake of the report, a backlash mounted against Apple from the likes of consumer privacy watchdogs, US lawmakers, and, naturally, a great many iOS users who feel their privacy is compromised by the supposed tracking functionality of their mobile devices. Consequently, no shortage of iPhone users have dashed off terse notes to Apple seeking information. And it now appears that one such message received a personal reply from Apple's chief executive.

    "Could you please explain the necessity of the passive location-tracking tool embedded in my iPhone?" the customer wrote in email. "It's kind of unnerving knowing that my exact location is being recorded at all times. Maybe you could shed some light on this for me before I switch to a Droid. They don't track me." Jobs' typically terse response: "Oh yes they do. We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is false." The reply originated via Jobs' iPhone.
    In the past, Steve Jobs has been known to reply directly to Apple customers, so the concept certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility. But, at the same time, numerous media outlets and publications have been duped by false messages from Jobs. At this point in time, it's still too early to confirm the validity of the email or the content of the message.

    But all signs clearly point to a continuation of this story in the headlines until some detailed and legitimate answers are provided by Apple.

    Source: Fierce Mobile Content
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Chief Steve Jobs Allegedly Responds to iOS Location Tracking started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 79 Comments
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blufox View Post
      For someone that does not want to be tracked, you live a rather transparent life. I will be vague, due to the fact that you do not want to be tracked, but here are some interesting details I found in under 10 minutes. Initials M.L. Visited the state next to your own not too long ago ( Looks like about a week - two weeks ago, I could have dug further and probably got a *very* accurate date ). You drive a modified import, that I could probably also get a license plate number for if I really wanted it.

      If you do not want to be followed, then be less transparent in your everyday life. If they had a purpose for following you, then the tracking on your iPhone should be the least of your worries.

      *Ok, realistically 99% of the thread was a waste of time. Not too many valid arguments ever pop-up on this site any more. The news runs late, biased, and seems to be nothing more than news to spark flame wars between groups that can not complete coherent thoughts.*
      Ok I guess your 1% is all that counts.
    1. iAppleHack's Avatar
      iAppleHack -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blufox View Post
      For someone that does not want to be tracked, you live a rather transparent life. I will be vague, due to the fact that you do not want to be tracked, but here are some interesting details I found in under 10 minutes. Initials M.L. Visited the state next to your own not too long ago ( Looks like about a week - two weeks ago, I could have dug further and probably got a *very* accurate date ). You drive a modified import, that I could probably also get a license plate number for if I really wanted it.

      If you do not want to be followed, then be less transparent in your everyday life. If they had a purpose for following you, then the tracking on your iPhone should be the least of your worries.

      *Ok, realistically 99% of the thread was a waste of time. Not too many valid arguments ever pop-up on this site any more. The news runs late, biased, and seems to be nothing more than news to spark flame wars between groups that can not complete coherent thoughts.*
      The more you know!
    1. bstunt10190's Avatar
      bstunt10190 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cpotoso View Post
      Just stop storing all that info on my f*** iphone!
      What's a f*** iPhone? Good sir, I believe you are using your iPhone incorrectly, you're not supposed to f*** your iPhone nor are you supposed to f*** others with your iPhone. That might be why you are experiencing problems...

      inb4troll
    1. The Amazing Atheist's Avatar
      The Amazing Atheist -
      Yes here we go again with the typical paranoid freaks who think they're special enough to have a multi billion dollar company track their every move.


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
    1. Blufox's Avatar
      Blufox -
      Quote Originally Posted by area51crypto View Post
      Ok I guess your 1% is all that counts.
      Last I checked a person with a total of 50-60 posts on a forum with literally millions of posts, does not make up the 1% you speak of.

      Unless I am just terrible with simple math, and am mistaken.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dark Syn View Post
      Yes here we go again with the typical paranoid freaks who think they're special enough to have a multi billion dollar company track their every move.


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
      Your signature could not have fit this thread more perfectly.
    1. feidhlim1986's Avatar
      feidhlim1986 -
      Quote Originally Posted by imilad View Post
      You can OPT out on the iphone too.. www.oo.apple.com
      Thats for opting out of iAd Network advertising, not opting out of location tracking.
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blufox View Post
      For someone that does not want to be tracked, you live a rather transparent life. I will be vague, due to the fact that you do not want to be tracked, but here are some interesting details I found in under 10 minutes. Initials M.L. Visited the state next to your own not too long ago ( Looks like about a week - two weeks ago, I could have dug further and probably got a *very* accurate date ). You drive a modified import, that I could probably also get a license plate number for if I really wanted it.

      If you do not want to be followed, then be less transparent in your everyday life. If they had a purpose for following you, then the tracking on your iPhone should be the least of your worries.

      *Ok, realistically 99% of the thread was a waste of time. Not too many valid arguments ever pop-up on this site any more. The news runs late, biased, and seems to be nothing more than news to spark flame wars between groups that can not complete coherent thoughts.*


      Yeah I drive a stock Subaru Impreza automatic for work had a stock Skyline R35 for fun but swapped it for Mercedes because Skyline was too much fun, nice try. As to my vacation I posted it up for all to see, so don't really need to dig on that. Keyword search my forum name would get you more than this, they are nothing to hide like I've said.
      I've kept more personal information secret, like my girlfriend's address where I work and live but guess what tracked that information? No matter how you try to spin this, Apple collecting all this information is wrong and you know it!

      Quote Originally Posted by JacquesChirac View Post
      This definitely can't be Jobs. Why would anyone accuse another company of tracking as if it's a norm while simultaneously denying tracking themself? It doesn't make sense.
      They did it on Antennagate, show that other phones have it and deny that it is problem on iPhone4 only gave away free bumpers because it was out of goodness of Jobs heart.
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Quote Originally Posted by Blufox View Post
      Last I checked a person with a total of 50-60 posts on a forum with literally millions of posts, does not make up the 1% you speak of.

      Unless I am just terrible with simple math, and am mistaken.



      Your signature could not have fit this thread more perfectly.

      Who told you that
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dark Syn View Post
      Yes here we go again with the typical paranoid freaks who think they're special enough to have a multi billion dollar company track their every move.
      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi

      Don't do it and there wouldn't be any problem!!!
      Don't want me to complain about it then don't code it into the iOS!!
    1. dtbeavin's Avatar
      dtbeavin -
      This isn't really as big of a deal as they are blowing it out to be. Yes it should have been encrypted. Should they have made it more known they were doing it?? Maybe yes maybe no. There are a few lines in the itunes agreement that says they collect data but it doesn't give specifics. There is no privacy anymore and I wish people would just accept that and move on.
    1. unison999's Avatar
      unison999 -
      simply add an off button would have solved all this problem, but that is not even an option...
    1. x_IMMORTAL_x's Avatar
      x_IMMORTAL_x -
      Some of you people or blind to the fact that Apple Is tracking you. Why in the hell would have your phone keeping TRACK off the logs If they werent interested in where u are at all times. Why or what is that file for then other then tracking?
      Its like putting a surveillance camera into a home and saying oh dont mind the camera we are not watching you.
    1. z3r01's Avatar
      z3r01 -
      So iOS tracks user locations...are they being sent somewhere?.....or just stationary on my phone...great my phone knows where I'm at...
    1. Antman217's Avatar
      Antman217 -
      I still don't see the big deal even if it is stored on the phone, the only people can get to it is to take either your phone or a backup of your phone from iTunes and find put where you've been. Bothe of these seem highly unlikely. Let's say someone steals your phone, the more logical thing would be to try and stay away from places you've been so that's you cant get your phone back. People wouldn't try to follow you around. And if they did want to, they would already be able to do that by tracking the gps on your phone. This is just getting way out of hand. People didn't care about it until someone pointed it out and before that and even now as far as I've heard there has been no threat caused by this so everyone just chill the f*ck out. Android is doing it too so it must be there for a reason that has been unimportant for as long as this has been going on.
    1. Timstanley's Avatar
      Timstanley -
      What bad things can apple do with this?
    1. dtbeavin's Avatar
      dtbeavin -
      This is literally no different then people checking in places via facebook or foursquare. If you don't want them tracking you then don't have an iPhone or jailbreak it and download untrackerd and stop it. Anyone with the google and a little programming knowledge can track any cell phone they want as long as it is turned on. This isn't new technology. Encrypt the file if you are going to keep it on the phone. Does anyone realize that android phones record their user data and sends it to google?? At least apple isn't taking the data (from what we can tell) and using it.
    1. feidhlim1986's Avatar
      feidhlim1986 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Timstanley View Post
      What bad things can apple do with this?
      At the moment the location data resided on your iPhone and your iPhone backups from iTunes. Apple doesn't have the data, but they could very easily grab it.
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      Quote Originally Posted by imilad View Post
      You can OPT out on the iphone too.. oo.apple.com
      Wrong, that doesn't exempt you from this issue, thats just to stop tailored advertising
    1. syedsufyan's Avatar
      syedsufyan -
      Calm down on Steve Jobs. He is currently in the hospital for your info (Probably brain problems is my guess).
    1. 40_ounce's Avatar
      40_ounce -
      If you don't want to be "tracked" stop using your debit and credit cards and throw your iPhone in the toilet. Oh yeah don't forget about your computer..... In other words get over it.